There's definitely a problem that needs to be addressed.  The top teams are creeping back up towards 10B and she's still leagues ahead of the next damage dealer, though admittedly "harder" to use.

Ive never gotten the "problem", arent the clans with trundas just bashing it out among each other? It doesnt make a difference if its 10b vs 10b or 1b vs 1b? And if a clan doesnt want to be in those high tier fights then people in it just stops using trundas xD

I know its not addressing the actual issue that the dwarf is overpowered but further fixing it might make hydra even worse for the mortal people lol

no, clans are matched up on total damage/points. They're not matched by roster, which means a clan like mine consistently places 2nd or 1st with less than 50 keys used against 4 other clans that are using 70+ keys. A lot of effort and hard work is being negated because of unbalanced champions like this. 

The only fix is her A2's 2nd hit needs to not benefit from ignoring armor. It's clear from me tripling my damage with a 20% ignore armor boost that that is the issue. 

I'll keep collecting my rewards but I enjoy a challenge. Also it's getting harder to get the super casuals in my clan to do Hydra since they know 4-5 of us are doing 90% of the work anyway.

It's a matter of patience but also your first 10 minutes of the fight. I can be at 90 mil dmg by boss turn 20 or I can be as low as 35 mil. Being able to lock in a strong start guarantees a big finish total. Also for more evidence of the Ignore Armor being the problem, I had my first 4 Neck Respawn happen in this fight. On Nightmare. I haven't managed that on any difficulty since the rework. 

As im doing my keys on weekend, as its the best time, i just cant stop thinking how i used to love hydra. But now after the "fixes" its so garbage, cant deal damage most of the time, multihitters are pointless, bringing in ally attack even more so. Its a pile of dogshit now, it just is nothing more to it. Just decided to hijack your thread to relieve my frustration. Used to be such a good bossfight.

Yeah if they could just cap the Serpent Will to max at 2 at a time AND allow a Ally Attack to finish before the neck respawns, it wouldn't be so aggrivating. It's also where Trunda can shine even more, whether the neck has 100k hp or 1mil hp left, her hit of 10 million is still worth 10 million dmg

It's k were getting instant battles to never think about it again.  But I agree with you.  I used to enjoy trying to min max to the extreme, now I've got strong auto keys and that's good enough.

Theres so few champs that don't get hard nerfed by the heads respawning instantly once they're "dead".

The way i read it, we get 5 QB tokens per week, and one gets used regardless whether your accept the run or free regroup to try again

Right that's why I was saying Ally Attack, not multi-hit attacks. Ally Attack you lose a ton of damage regardless of who the champions are. I see it as strategy BUT on the same side, now that necks have HP a champion like Gnut does more damage with his A3 on necks. 

Either way, my main issue is the 3-4 Serpent Wills at a time. 

Yup that's correct.

Definitely.  It's just oodles of fun staring at 3 heads that can't take damage and the 4th under Poison Cloud.

Exactly this.  The fight used to be an enjoyable (if overly long) boss battle.  Now it is just painful to run.  

I can't understand how Plarium doesn't understand that they ruined the experience of Hydra while still leaving Trunda as the OP Hydra nuker.     

@Onikage55 Glad to see that you have finally accepted the reality of Trunda's Trundaness. 😂  

It happens at a certain Ignore Armor threshold. What's really insane is with Cat's Gaze, if I ever get the Trunda 6 Star Soul I'll have 100% Ignore Armor with Helmsmasher Procs against NM Hydra... which also means people who have her 6 star soul can now ignore all armor thanks to Relics... 

I paired her with Yumeko and replaced Thor... 300 Mil at Boss Turn 86 on Nightmare. That's without 6 star Crushing Rend AND having negative affinity for Fear + Wrath heads... 

Not sure how the damage is calculated on the A2 but it is still broken because she was getting 40 million from 1 A2 with all 4 heads decap'd, even with negative affinity out... I don't get it, she can't benefit from crit dmg so that being over 300% isn't doing it since I didn't see the initial neck getting hit for more than 5 million, so the fact that non-crit more than doubles despite being 50% of the first hit (even with Masteries and Weaken) doesn't seem right. 

So... with this new Relic, it seems maybe Trunda is now gonna be even more OP than ever in Hydra... based on how this reads, it WOULD make the 2nd part of her A2 hit even harder because it would boost the damage of the first hit by 5% per neck, since the damage of the 2nd hit (the AOE) is based on the damage of the 1st hit

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So say there's 4 necks, 20% increase of dmg to the intial hit of the A2. Then the 2nd hit would be even bigger because the first hit was bigger, yes?

I believe that's the case yes.  It's good, Trunda needed another buff.

We are a pretty solid competitor in Hydra Clash, and we get into 60B+ range on the weeks we are trying to win.  I don't think we have ever cracked 70B.  It is a collective effort, and we do not have anybody doing stratospheric damage.  Our highest is a guy doing about 650M on NM with a team that has a 6* Teox and a 5* Acrizia.

We had an opponent drop this one on us last week.  2B on NM is 8B Clash Points, and this Trunda isn't even 6* awakened.  How does Plarium not see this as the very imbalance they promised they would continue to watch for and address before it got back out of hand?

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Sadly this isn't even considered a "good" Trunda key anymore either.  All they had to do was fix her A2 instead of 2.5 - 3 years of this nonsense.