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I don't even know what to say anymore about tag team

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27 січ. 2025, 05:4727.01.25
07.09.21
30

I don't even know what to say anymore about tag team

Either no one listens or it's completely broken on purpose. It's a crock. Weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks unable to advance no matter what. Classic arena? Do very well thank you. Live arena? Fine with me. I can get a 1 to 3 wins out of every 8 matches in live arena. i think that's fair. It should be a challenge. And people should learn they can't just walk through the game winning everything they touch.

But if I get ONE win out THIRTY in tag team then I'm hashtag blessed. It's literally insane, the matchups are preposterously uneven, and for reasons beyond all comprehension you have to do it for the stupid missions. 

Just don't have marius missions, why pretend?

And yes, some snotty player may reply how THEY didn't find it difficult at all. And you know who they are? The same exact people hanging around at lower levels for easy wins and making it IMPOSSIBLE for everyone else. So, you know, save it please. 

I would LOVE if whoever figured out how to make Live and Classic work just fine would finally after all these years make even the slightest effort at the game destroying nightmare of the so-called tag team arena.

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27 січ. 2025, 12:1827.01.25
02.06.22
78

I make you right. Every week I do my 5 a day, win about 8/10 games, stay green all week then go to bed Sun green get up Mon bang still in same tier, as everyone and their dog attacks me during the night. Gave up on the missions soooo long ago. It's not so much tag is broken, more it's designed for heavy spenders and people with insomnia. Truthfully just do your 5 a day for advanced quest and pencil in a possibility of a tier increase. Focus on Marius missions as they are just time consuming, but with an eventual end in sight. 

27 січ. 2025, 13:0327.01.25
14.09.20
1013

This is and has been a problem for the last 4 years...

28 січ. 2025, 07:1428.01.25
18.12.19
389

Its not that its full of spenders but that there are so many people with really good champs and the tiers are too small, so effectively all the people with good pulls are piled up in there leaving the less fortunate ones out. Theres ofcourse skill gap too but from my perspective, and that example is from live, when someone has either duchess or siphi, im immediately at an insane disadvantage because i dont have them or somethine comparable to them. And the closer you get to gold 1 the more you see teams full of those gamechangers, people saying you can beat really good teams with bunch of nothingburgers are huffing paint.

28 січ. 2025, 15:1928.01.25
28 січ. 2025, 15:19(відредаговано)
15.01.21
1235
Matrim

This is and has been a problem for the last 4 years...

I think tag has actually gotten harder, i used to sit in G4 easily with minimum effort, then i sat in G3 easily  and now G3 is an effort to stay in with me occasionally dropping into G2.

The proportion of tag teams that i see that are blatant whales has definitely gone up.

28 січ. 2025, 18:5228.01.25
07.09.21
30

Right. I mean if you're in *silver II* and every single fight has double Armanz, triple siphi and rotos, endless mythical (aren't they supposed to be hard to get?), cleary in god tier gear all around . . . well it really isn't a tier at all, is it? And definitley not a LOWER tier like silver II theoretically should be. It's just the same absolutely hopeless mismatch/outmatch over and over and over and over and over. If the players didn't all have slightly different alphanumeric sequences for names, one would be tempted to think it was just the same account over and over reshuffling the order.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
29 січ. 2025, 13:1829.01.25
24.06.19
2897

It's been a continual issue for years and believe me we keep passing on the feedback.  Hopefully something changes but for now we're doing all we're able to.

29 січ. 2025, 13:3329.01.25
07.12.20
143

TTA is hard and only getting harder with the power 'creep' in the game

its basically the same as LA but without the matchmaking (ppl want to be careful what they wish for when it comes to LA)

29 січ. 2025, 17:1329.01.25
14.12.20
8

The Tag arena is a problem that should be addressed. I don't know what the correct solution should be, maybe increasing the size of each tier is enough to solve it. But they should do something about it.

I used to be between Gold 1 and 2. It is 3 months now that I'm stuck in Silver 4. Going to sleep on Sunday evening in green, and waking up on Monday morning still in Silver 4.

It is frustrating not being able to progress.

29 січ. 2025, 20:0229.01.25
31.01.21
19

in general the game becomes more and more difficult. 

no matter how much I strengthen my champions, the opponent is getting stronger, the monsters are stronger, and I won't even talk about the bosses 

3 лют. 2025, 05:1503.02.25
3 лют. 2025, 05:47(відредаговано)
07.09.21
30

I would also note how, no matter the matches or score during the week, on the final day all of sudden it's even 100 more times more insanely mismatched, which is hard to interpret as anything other than deliberate. I submit that it is literally impossible to move from silver 2 to 3 now. Literally cannot be done.

7 берез. 2025, 07:3807.03.25
07.09.21
30

Just going to keep pointing it out I guess. I can get ahead in every aspect of pvp in the game - live, classic, seige ... but in tag going from Silver II to Silver III cannot be done. Unbeatable teams that I never see in Gold IV classic or Silver IV live - never see in Seige. But somehow they are literally the ONLY TEAMS you ever see in Tag Team. Who are these people with Platinum Plus Infinity Extra Afterlife Secret Dodecatuple Level Arena that just lollygag around in silver 2 of tag? I'm asking. How is that remotely possible? I've been playing over four years. I have many S-tier Arena champs in S-tier gear. It's not me. It's YOU.

7 берез. 2025, 17:4807.03.25
31.01.20
1278

The fact that Plarium continues to ignore this issue is beyond comprehension.

It locks a huge percentage of the player base out of achieving Ramantu for no good reason.  

Expanding the tiers should be a simple matter of changing a few numbers in code that is already written, but Plarium apparently does not care enough to adjust it.  

7 берез. 2025, 17:5807.03.25
19.12.19
6634
WileyMan

The fact that Plarium continues to ignore this issue is beyond comprehension.

It locks a huge percentage of the player base out of achieving Ramantu for no good reason.  

Expanding the tiers should be a simple matter of changing a few numbers in code that is already written, but Plarium apparently does not care enough to adjust it.  

They did it once, so who knows when/if

The number crunches must be recommending not.  Honestly, I'm for it just because selfishly it would make it even easier to squat in g4.

Unfortunately, I think the data would suggest expanding tiers would negatively impact future revenue.  Not significantly. But 100% would not increase. 

7 берез. 2025, 19:5607.03.25
07.09.21
30

Interesting ... I don't love impacting revenue since that's where future development comes from. Are you thinking it's specifically in champ development? Or is it something specific to tag like - I don't know, gems for refreshing?

Honestly, with the state of the lower tiers right now i don't think I could drop 500 bucks a month for 6 months straight into champion development and have it make even a dent. It really is that broken. Genuinely feels like there's a new and specific problem and maybe they haven't found it because they think it's the same thing people have said before, IDK. Maybe the RNG favors defense too heavily or the power ratings are off by a factor idk.

7 берез. 2025, 22:4107.03.25
16.12.21
1596

Well, for starters. the power ratings are essentially meaningless, unless they're super high or super low.


Imagine 2 teams of the same 4 champs; Team 1 is built for hgh speed and damage, but low hp and res. they might have a power level of 200k.

Team 2 is the same 4 champs, but they're built for hp and res, they might well have a team power of over 750k.


And team 1 might very well 1-shot team 2 anyway, despite them having nearly 4 times the power rating of team 1.

7 берез. 2025, 23:4507.03.25
31.01.20
1278
MooredRat

Well, for starters. the power ratings are essentially meaningless, unless they're super high or super low.


Imagine 2 teams of the same 4 champs; Team 1 is built for hgh speed and damage, but low hp and res. they might have a power level of 200k.

Team 2 is the same 4 champs, but they're built for hp and res, they might well have a team power of over 750k.


And team 1 might very well 1-shot team 2 anyway, despite them having nearly 4 times the power rating of team 1.

This can easily be true.  Power Rating is heavily weighted on Resistance & Crit Damage and hardly at all on speed, when speed is frequently the most important factor in who wins/loses.

8 берез. 2025, 00:0608.03.25
07.09.21
30

I mean the power ratings are a red herring, that was just a side note. They don't even come into play with the current problem, which is that silver II is 100% wall to wall and without exception teams that make classic platinum look like child's play. The power rating might as well be infinite or zero. As I really hope is clear, the lower tiers are broken and totally unusable. It's not a matter of some tweak. It's not just the usual complaints about how unfair everything is. I wish one developer would actually go try it out. It's truly well beyond the trivial usual things. No matter how many times you refresh, how many gems you dump into doing it, you cannot get a team with A) a normal username and B) anything close to resembling a silver II team. Again, they are far more unbeatable than silver IV in live, Gold IV in classic. It's definitely not working properly.

8 берез. 2025, 00:1608.03.25
16.12.21
1596
xonak

I mean the power ratings are a red herring, that was just a side note. They don't even come into play with the current problem, which is that silver II is 100% wall to wall and without exception teams that make classic platinum look like child's play. The power rating might as well be infinite or zero. As I really hope is clear, the lower tiers are broken and totally unusable. It's not a matter of some tweak. It's not just the usual complaints about how unfair everything is. I wish one developer would actually go try it out. It's truly well beyond the trivial usual things. No matter how many times you refresh, how many gems you dump into doing it, you cannot get a team with A) a normal username and B) anything close to resembling a silver II team. Again, they are far more unbeatable than silver IV in live, Gold IV in classic. It's definitely not working properly.

I keep saying I wanna see a challenge where the content creators and the devs start brand new totally f2p accounts and race to get to gold 1 tag.

dthorne04Moderator
8 берез. 2025, 00:1808.03.25
30.12.20
6728
xonak

I mean the power ratings are a red herring, that was just a side note. They don't even come into play with the current problem, which is that silver II is 100% wall to wall and without exception teams that make classic platinum look like child's play. The power rating might as well be infinite or zero. As I really hope is clear, the lower tiers are broken and totally unusable. It's not a matter of some tweak. It's not just the usual complaints about how unfair everything is. I wish one developer would actually go try it out. It's truly well beyond the trivial usual things. No matter how many times you refresh, how many gems you dump into doing it, you cannot get a team with A) a normal username and B) anything close to resembling a silver II team. Again, they are far more unbeatable than silver IV in live, Gold IV in classic. It's definitely not working properly.

As far as I know we haven't gotten any indication of changes coming down the line for Tag. I do know these complaints aren't new, either

I did not find the climb to Gold Tag easy by any stretch of the imagination, though this was before mythics came in. I would be curious to see what your roster looks like, teams in Tag and gearing.

9 берез. 2025, 00:3109.03.25
03.05.20
1924

I am going to try losing to win.  I will use my tag keys on any battle, even if I lose.  Eventually, I will sink so low that I cant go any lower.  Each day I will get that extra energy that I have been missing.  

When I am ready to push the Ramantu mission, I will get up to the tag team challenge and then push as hard as I can.  Maybe there will be a mircle.