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Clan Boss DL UNM question

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17 січ. 2025, 00:2817.01.25
05.05.24
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Clan Boss DL UNM question

Hi, it's been a while since I've been here.  I now have an entry-level Wixwell shield team of Wixwell, Malkith Bloodflock x2, Ninja, and Hierophant Lazarius.  Larzarius is on team for his buffs and speed aura.  Did 120 million this morning on first NM run, only missed max turns by about 250 total turns before my team died.

Fast forward to UNM, the shields got blasted a lot faster, both Malkiths were dead by DL turn 30, and it fell apart.  I have two thoughts.  One, the Malkiths themselves need more HP and Defense.  That's hampered somewhat by them both being buff extenders and carrying reflex.  But that might not be the whole issue.

Second issue I see is that instead of Laz being speed lead, I may need Wix to be DEF+ lead so he generates bigger shields. I will be doing a second try tonight with Wix as lead.  All team members are at least 190 speed by themselves without Laz being speed lead.  I don't have Geomancer, nor a lot of the other exotic ideal toons, so I kind of must work with what I got for now.

Third issue is that I don't know if Wix's A2 or A3 is best to program in to get the shield train up and running fastest.

What thoughts do the group have on this, and what do you need to help me kind of figure this out?  Thanks!

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17 січ. 2025, 01:1717.01.25
17 січ. 2025, 01:18(відредаговано)
05.05.24
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Okay, spent some gems and bought a key.  Saw exactly what happened.  Switched to Wix as defense lead, but the reason Malkith #1 is dying is he doesn't have as many buffs and doesn't get shields grown as fast.  The DL focuses all damage on this one, and keeps the shields from getting high enough to outpace the incoming damage.  Thus, his shield eventually breaks.  Malkith #2 then gets beat down since DL is pounding all shields.  Then, Ninja got picked off.  Laz was reviving, so were Malkiths when they came back in, but without shields forget about it.

Then, there wasn't enough shield extension for Wix and Laz to keep up and they all died.  Took about 32 DL turns.  So the real question is how to get Wix to outpace DL ramp up in damage.

17 січ. 2025, 03:1717.01.25
03.05.20
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Gareth Serra

Okay, spent some gems and bought a key.  Saw exactly what happened.  Switched to Wix as defense lead, but the reason Malkith #1 is dying is he doesn't have as many buffs and doesn't get shields grown as fast.  The DL focuses all damage on this one, and keeps the shields from getting high enough to outpace the incoming damage.  Thus, his shield eventually breaks.  Malkith #2 then gets beat down since DL is pounding all shields.  Then, Ninja got picked off.  Laz was reviving, so were Malkiths when they came back in, but without shields forget about it.

Then, there wasn't enough shield extension for Wix and Laz to keep up and they all died.  Took about 32 DL turns.  So the real question is how to get Wix to outpace DL ramp up in damage.

It took me 3 months of trial, error and a lot of help from the forum to build a speed tune team for UNM.  Check the CCs and see if they of them have a speed team for the champs you have.  

Good luck.  


17 січ. 2025, 03:2917.01.25
25.06.20
6925

You've already more-or-less answered your question. This team relies upon the shield growth outpacing the damage. If at any point that fails to hold true, the team dies. The longer this takes to happen, the more damage you end up doing.

Here's the thing - the VAST majority of your damage output is simply based around survival. You literally do not need any damage *at all*. Just warmaster/giantslayer alone, spread across the 1500 turns, is more than enough to get you well above 100M UNM dmg per key.

So - Wix and Malkith x2 do your buff extends. Great. The next part of the equation is the actual buff count. The team you have does not end up having a full complement of 10 buffs, so if you drop one of the other two and simply add someone who places Continuous Heal, you'll get to 10 no problem, since they'll stack and then be extended indefinitely.

That in and of itself is probably sufficient. So, drop Ninja, and add anyone who can place CH.

24 січ. 2025, 21:0524.01.25
24 січ. 2025, 21:17(відредаговано)
05.05.24
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Is Black Knight on 3 turn cooldown good enough to do that?  I have him.  I also have Fyna, and in shield gear, she starts team with 4 buffs, Wix 2, and BK would make 7 unique buffs to start first round.

Both Fyna and Wix add more, targeted, and BK would add cont heal.

I still may need to get Wix higher on acc to land his atk down, too, to lessen damage.

Thanks for further thoughts!

25 січ. 2025, 04:5625.01.25
25.06.20
6925

The cooldown is irrelevant, really. The buffs get extended infinitely.

I'd just pick an epic champ that brings CH, really. No point in wasting books on a lego champ just for this.