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Nais the shadowthief passive

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5 січ. 2025, 05:5705.01.25
18.12.19
389

Nais the shadowthief passive

Can i just say that this passive is pure garbage? I dont know if anyone else owns the guy, but he always dies after making the transfortmation, making it utterly useless lol

Transforms and then gets killed by poison

Transforms and then gets killed by hp burn

Transfroms and then gets killed by a bomb

Transfroms and then gets killed by soul reap

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5 січ. 2025, 07:5005.01.25
5 січ. 2025, 08:05(відредаговано)
01.07.22
715

Umm no? Not utterly useless. The other option is he's just dead period. At least the passive gives him a chance at survival and then (if he doesn't die to damage debuffs, which isn't gonna happen 100% of the time) he can A3 to not die. The passive only happens if he was gonna die anyway, so I'm not sure what you're complaining about? I'm not quite sure you understand the Champion's mechanics and the fact that his passive gives you a CHANCE to survive... instead of just being dead anyway. 

You do realize the point is that he doesn't die to a nuke in Arena right? Poisons are extremely rare in Arena, HP Burn isn't very common either... if there's Bombs then it's likely the bombs already went off and shifted him to his other form so they're not a threat now. The only legit thing you mention is Soul Reap and the exact same complaint can be made about Siegfrund if he has block buffs. Siegfrund still dies to Soul Reap if he can't put the Block Damage on himself AND he isn't guaranteed to go next, he has 100% Turn Meter Which again, if you're experienced in Arena, you'd know that Wukong gets 100% TM and he doesn't always immediately go after he revives BUT Nais is essentially guaranteed to go next...

5 січ. 2025, 09:3105.01.25
5 січ. 2025, 09:35(відредаговано)
18.12.19
389

Idk man, i only use him in arena and ive seen him die plenty to some random damages after the transformation, it just could be better i guess, like removeing the debuffs before transformation or something

I guess its one of those things where they didnt test and now its "working as intended" lol

Also just tested, he doesnt even get immediate turn as you say, he stays with the exact same turn meter he ahd after the transformation

dthorne04Moderator
5 січ. 2025, 18:4405.01.25
30.12.20
6757

I am confused, do you want him to be completely broken? 😂

He's arguably the best arena mythic DPS or in a 1A/1B type situation. 

5 січ. 2025, 18:5805.01.25
01.07.22
715
sharkium

Idk man, i only use him in arena and ive seen him die plenty to some random damages after the transformation, it just could be better i guess, like removeing the debuffs before transformation or something

I guess its one of those things where they didnt test and now its "working as intended" lol

Also just tested, he doesnt even get immediate turn as you say, he stays with the exact same turn meter he ahd after the transformation

I don't have him, I was basing the immediate turn from your description. It sounded like his ability went off and then he got the extra turn that normally comes with a form-change and died to a DoT. If he's NOT then that's still good since now you have a chance to cleanse or at the very least put a shield or heal on him from another champ before he dies. 

Most top arena nukers have "ignore unkillable" and/or "Ignore block damage" and his passive circumvents both of those. Not to mention if the nuker has a condition of "If this kills an enemy" because his passive blocks that also. I think it's really good.

6 січ. 2025, 04:1106.01.25
18.12.19
389
dthorne04

I am confused, do you want him to be completely broken? 😂

He's arguably the best arena mythic DPS or in a 1A/1B type situation. 

Ofcourse i want him to be completely broken, reason is because i got him, thats how it works xD

harleQuinnModerator
6 січ. 2025, 17:4006.01.25
24.02.19
8076

The dude is literally the best DPS in the game and impossible to kill when built for that. Just in every team in the Plat Top 30 for a few weeks now.

Why must he be even more oppressive??

6 січ. 2025, 17:4206.01.25
18.12.19
389
harleQuinn

The dude is literally the best DPS in the game and impossible to kill when built for that. Just in every team in the Plat Top 30 for a few weeks now.

Why must he be even more oppressive??

what are the stats they run in the top tier? i have these and he doesnt seem to be very powerful xD 


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harleQuinnModerator
6 січ. 2025, 17:5606.01.25
24.02.19
8076
sharkium

what are the stats they run in the top tier? i have these and he doesnt seem to be very powerful xD 


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Okay, since you asked...

Your stats are all 70% of what they should be, specifically speed, HP and CD.

You don't have him in 4 piece Stoneskin and you don't have him in a 4 piece Defense Ignore set. Need to start farming Savage every waking hour if you don't have any Lethal to forge.

6 січ. 2025, 18:5206.01.25
01.07.22
715
sharkium

what are the stats they run in the top tier? i have these and he doesnt seem to be very powerful xD 


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Just to clarify... you have him in 2 Piece Stoneskin, 1 Piece Slayer, 1 Piece Supersonic and 3 Piece Protection? And you're using him in Arena like that?? 

HQ is right, you need to at least get him in 4p Stoneskin and 4p Ignore. None of his attacks ignore def anyway. At this point you should probably post his Masteries so you can get some guidance on those too

6 січ. 2025, 19:0606.01.25
18.12.19
389
Onikage55

Just to clarify... you have him in 2 Piece Stoneskin, 1 Piece Slayer, 1 Piece Supersonic and 3 Piece Protection? And you're using him in Arena like that?? 

HQ is right, you need to at least get him in 4p Stoneskin and 4p Ignore. None of his attacks ignore def anyway. At this point you should probably post his Masteries so you can get some guidance on those too

Ya i went with what artifact extractor gave me for best damage output, including some resistance


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6 січ. 2025, 23:1706.01.25
01.07.22
715
sharkium

Ya i went with what artifact extractor gave me for best damage output, including some resistance


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Swap Blood Shield with Methodical. His A1 ignores Shield, Block Dmg and Unkillable plus he'll benefit from his counterattacks from Retribution stacking some more damage. Also Opportunist might be better than Wrath of the Slain