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TAG arena (edited sorry folks)

TAG arena (edited sorry folks)

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18 листоп. 2024, 17:085 днів
28.02.22
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TAG arena (edited sorry folks)

Not a fan of the daily quest. But instead of forcing it on us how about this idea.  Would participation improve if the progression was points based like normal arena instead of the totally useless weekly red, yellow green?  My clannies who are generally pretty bleahh about tag agree they would participate if that was the case

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19 листоп. 2024, 09:365 днів
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Look at it this way; with you losing more than you win but keeping a stable rating, you are slowly feeding more points into the system, which eventually allows more people to climb up to your rating, and this will eventually help you get easier opponents and climb further. And in the meantime you're getting your area bonuses filled as well, letting you push further in PvE, accumulate more resources, and thus eventually get better champs and gear, which will also help you climb.


19 листоп. 2024, 11:055 днів
28.02.22
270
plasos

Look at it this way; with you losing more than you win but keeping a stable rating, you are slowly feeding more points into the system, which eventually allows more people to climb up to your rating, and this will eventually help you get easier opponents and climb further. And in the meantime you're getting your area bonuses filled as well, letting you push further in PvE, accumulate more resources, and thus eventually get better champs and gear, which will also help you climb.


No it won't, how could that happen?  There are limited places in each tier, there are 17,000 slots in all of gold, they want to stay there for the rewards.  Silver 4 has  15000 places, there aren't weak teams and there won't be.  There are no figures for how many NEW teams trying to do the mission get promoted from silver 4 to gold 1, but I'm willing to bet it's not many as well as the teams trying to get to gold for the mission you have the better teams who were relegated from gold trying to get back to gold,   I float around in silver as I did the gold mission for Ramantu, but all that happens is tiers fill up with better and better teams, the get gold mission gets harder each week because of this.  A set points total would help progression 

19 листоп. 2024, 11:385 днів
16.12.21
1207

Erm, you said live arena for the title, but I'm pretty sure you mean tag arena

ShortOnSkillzModerator
19 листоп. 2024, 12:205 днів
19 листоп. 2024, 12:20(відредаговано)
24.06.19
2425
MooredRat

Erm, you said live arena for the title, but I'm pretty sure you mean tag arena

Definitely about Tag. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
19 листоп. 2024, 12:215 днів
24.06.19
2425

Ill add your suggestion to my feedback.  Tag, especially related to the Ramantu missions, has been an issue for a long time. 

19 листоп. 2024, 14:174 днi
28.02.22
270
ShortOnSkillz

Definitely about Tag. 

Yep sorry everyone totally my fault I did mean Tag

19 листоп. 2024, 15:114 днi
16.12.21
1207

I was actually thinking about making a post with the same suggestion;

Why does tag only allow you to move up or down a tier once a week (and always at the same day/time, which screws over people in certain timezones) while classic and live are dynamic?


I'll second Ratted's suggestion to change it.


I'll also add a couple suggestions mentioned several times before:

Change the bazaar so that you only need to reach Gold once to permanently unlock access to the gold section. I strongly suspect a lot of people in Gold, myself included, would happily drop down to silver and open up spaces for those struggling to reach Gold for the first time to complete that stupid, stupid mission if they could still buy the lego book and sacred shard every month


In addition or alternatively:

Change the Ramantu quest from "reach gold I" to "earn x bars/save up x bars/win x fights"

That way someone can see they're steadily making progress instead of getting completely stuck for months, especially if the main reason they're stuck is they can't play from 1am-3am monday for reset when they have to go to work/school just a few hours later.

19 листоп. 2024, 20:464 днi
26.05.22
584

The difference between classic arena and tag team is just bizzare. I feel like 90% of us are sitting in gold 5 for classic and obviously in tag team the vast majority of us are sitting in silver 2 or below. 

Competition is great but tag team just isn't tiered right. 

19 листоп. 2024, 21:404 днi
19.12.19
6449
Shibb

The difference between classic arena and tag team is just bizzare. I feel like 90% of us are sitting in gold 5 for classic and obviously in tag team the vast majority of us are sitting in silver 2 or below. 

Competition is great but tag team just isn't tiered right. 

Maybe they need to fix Classic Arena? I'd argue more than half of Gold 5 shouldn't be there... 

20 листоп. 2024, 03:404 днi
18.12.19
348

I mean its always been only about the mission in tag, if they wouldve changed it to get X wins in tag arena, we wouldve avoided thousands upon thousands of topics on this....now im one of the turds who is sitting in gold and keeping 1 spot, its an artificial problem created by corpo rats and as an average joe its insane to rationalize it

20 листоп. 2024, 04:324 днi
31.01.20
993
MooredRat

I was actually thinking about making a post with the same suggestion;

Why does tag only allow you to move up or down a tier once a week (and always at the same day/time, which screws over people in certain timezones) while classic and live are dynamic?


I'll second Ratted's suggestion to change it.


I'll also add a couple suggestions mentioned several times before:

Change the bazaar so that you only need to reach Gold once to permanently unlock access to the gold section. I strongly suspect a lot of people in Gold, myself included, would happily drop down to silver and open up spaces for those struggling to reach Gold for the first time to complete that stupid, stupid mission if they could still buy the lego book and sacred shard every month


In addition or alternatively:

Change the Ramantu quest from "reach gold I" to "earn x bars/save up x bars/win x fights"

That way someone can see they're steadily making progress instead of getting completely stuck for months, especially if the main reason they're stuck is they can't play from 1am-3am monday for reset when they have to go to work/school just a few hours later.

I absolutely think Tag Arena and the Ramantu Mission need a rework/rebalance, but I disagree with you on a couple of things: 

  1. IMO, most people (myself definitely included) who are committed to grinding enough gold bars to max out monthly Bazaar rewards are not going to fall to Silver if they have the account strength to easily maintian a spot in upper Gold.  Once you get out of G1 and into G2/G3, holding Gold is pretty easy and for comparison sake, G2 gives 33% more gold bars than S3.
  2. Fixing the imbalance of the Ramantu Mission requires either changing the mission or expanding the tiers, and if they do something to expand rewards for higher tiers, this would become even more true.
  3. Classic Arena Reset is a huge thing for anyone on the cusp of Platinum, but is it really that big of a deal for 3v3?  Except for those that are trying to promote to G1 for the first time, I suppose.  Regardless, I have long been a fan of the idea of rotating resets times for Classic & 3v3, but I don't think Plarium has ever even considered it.  
20 листоп. 2024, 17:413 днi
26.05.22
584
Trips

Maybe they need to fix Classic Arena? I'd argue more than half of Gold 5 shouldn't be there... 

Probably. I mean there really is just two tiers in classic. Whale and not whale. 

20 листоп. 2024, 18:123 днi
31.01.20
993
Trips

Maybe they need to fix Classic Arena? I'd argue more than half of Gold 5 shouldn't be there... 

I'd be all for a genuine fix to classic arena.  RN, it is basically a joke.  However, Plarium tried to make Classic more competitve whenthey introdcued G5 in the first place. I thought it was awesome for a while, but then it turned out that the programming that made G5 fun & challenging also broke Platinum, and within a month or so, G5 was turned into the nonsense it is today...just a place to grind out forge materials and great hall bonus chests that occasionally drop a piece of useful gear.

As you have said elsewhere, "Classic Arena is Legacy Content that Plarium doesn't care about fixing"....unfortunatley, I think you are right.    

20 листоп. 2024, 20:423 днi
28.02.22
270
WileyMan

I absolutely think Tag Arena and the Ramantu Mission need a rework/rebalance, but I disagree with you on a couple of things: 

  1. IMO, most people (myself definitely included) who are committed to grinding enough gold bars to max out monthly Bazaar rewards are not going to fall to Silver if they have the account strength to easily maintian a spot in upper Gold.  Once you get out of G1 and into G2/G3, holding Gold is pretty easy and for comparison sake, G2 gives 33% more gold bars than S3.
  2. Fixing the imbalance of the Ramantu Mission requires either changing the mission or expanding the tiers, and if they do something to expand rewards for higher tiers, this would become even more true.
  3. Classic Arena Reset is a huge thing for anyone on the cusp of Platinum, but is it really that big of a deal for 3v3?  Except for those that are trying to promote to G1 for the first time, I suppose.  Regardless, I have long been a fan of the idea of rotating resets times for Classic & 3v3, but I don't think Plarium has ever even considered it.  

Change the bazaar so that you only need to reach Gold once to permanently unlock access to the gold section. I strongly suspect a lot of people in Gold, myself included, would happily drop down to silver and open up spaces for those struggling to reach Gold for the first time to complete that stupid, stupid mission if they could still buy the lego book and sacred shard every month

Totally agree this would be the best change if they won't do anything else


 

20 листоп. 2024, 20:483 днi
19.12.19
6449
WileyMan

I absolutely think Tag Arena and the Ramantu Mission need a rework/rebalance, but I disagree with you on a couple of things: 

  1. IMO, most people (myself definitely included) who are committed to grinding enough gold bars to max out monthly Bazaar rewards are not going to fall to Silver if they have the account strength to easily maintian a spot in upper Gold.  Once you get out of G1 and into G2/G3, holding Gold is pretty easy and for comparison sake, G2 gives 33% more gold bars than S3.
  2. Fixing the imbalance of the Ramantu Mission requires either changing the mission or expanding the tiers, and if they do something to expand rewards for higher tiers, this would become even more true.
  3. Classic Arena Reset is a huge thing for anyone on the cusp of Platinum, but is it really that big of a deal for 3v3?  Except for those that are trying to promote to G1 for the first time, I suppose.  Regardless, I have long been a fan of the idea of rotating resets times for Classic & 3v3, but I don't think Plarium has ever even considered it.  

1. agree

2. they expanded them once, should be simple to do again

3. same. I'd like to give plat a try once

20 листоп. 2024, 21:423 днi
19.12.19
6449
WileyMan

I'd be all for a genuine fix to classic arena.  RN, it is basically a joke.  However, Plarium tried to make Classic more competitve whenthey introdcued G5 in the first place. I thought it was awesome for a while, but then it turned out that the programming that made G5 fun & challenging also broke Platinum, and within a month or so, G5 was turned into the nonsense it is today...just a place to grind out forge materials and great hall bonus chests that occasionally drop a piece of useful gear.

As you have said elsewhere, "Classic Arena is Legacy Content that Plarium doesn't care about fixing"....unfortunatley, I think you are right.    

Yes. I don't really want them to change classic lol.

What I'd like is an instant battle all 10 option.  The caveat is the instaBattle option is only available if u do the entire page. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
21 листоп. 2024, 15:032 днi
24.06.19
2425
Trips

Yes. I don't really want them to change classic lol.

What I'd like is an instant battle all 10 option.  The caveat is the instaBattle option is only available if u do the entire page. 

Sign me up for that.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
21 листоп. 2024, 15:042 днi
24.06.19
2425
Ratted

Change the bazaar so that you only need to reach Gold once to permanently unlock access to the gold section. I strongly suspect a lot of people in Gold, myself included, would happily drop down to silver and open up spaces for those struggling to reach Gold for the first time to complete that stupid, stupid mission if they could still buy the lego book and sacred shard every month

Totally agree this would be the best change if they won't do anything else


 

Personally I wouldn't but I agree a lot of people would drop down and open up spaces.