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Week 1 of Clash 2.0, competitiveness check

Week 1 of Clash 2.0, competitiveness check

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22 жовт. 2024, 17:4622.10.24
19.12.19
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Week 1 of Clash 2.0, competitiveness check

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ShortOnSkillzModerator
22 жовт. 2024, 20:3422.10.24
24.06.19
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And this is an off week for us to adjust to changes.

22 жовт. 2024, 23:5622.10.24
19.12.19
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ShortOnSkillz


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And this is an off week for us to adjust to changes.


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I'm herding cats to get our last 11 keys in.... 

23 жовт. 2024, 00:2123.10.24
03.05.20
1913

Our clan is focused for CB but we only get about 50% on Hydra.  I think that participation level will drop.  

@Trips     Collect those chests and send them to my inbox.  I am not too lazy to open them.   lol

 

23 жовт. 2024, 00:5023.10.24
19.12.19
6552
ClosedPoly

Our clan is focused for CB but we only get about 50% on Hydra.  I think that participation level will drop.  

@Trips     Collect those chests and send them to my inbox.  I am not too lazy to open them.   lol

 


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They will get added to my inbox tomorrow  :)

23 жовт. 2024, 16:4323.10.24
19.12.19
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Winner!


Takeaways:

1. Participation rate extremely high

2. Competitiveness high


Please share yours, curious how others looked.

Last week a single player from each of the top 3 clans in our clash topped all these scores... easily 😆 

23 жовт. 2024, 17:0023.10.24
16.12.21
1484

I already cleared mine without screenshotting, but it was close-ish, at elast compared to previous clashes.


The first place team did more than 2nd & 3rd put together, but no individual crazy keys, just high participation with good solid teams.

Iirc the biggest single key score between 5 clans was someone who did ~850m with acrizia on NM for 3.4 billion clash points


I'm pleased to report my clan DID manage to down NM, and I'm reasonably certain we'll be able to each week

23 жовт. 2024, 17:1323.10.24
16.12.21
1484

Otoh, participation is definitely down in the midgame clans in my cluster.

A couple dozen players have gone from 'struggling' to "F it, why bother?"


I recommend lowering the minimum score for bottom level chest, both for clash and regular hydra rewards

23 жовт. 2024, 17:1823.10.24
19.12.19
6552
MooredRat

Otoh, participation is definitely down in the midgame clans in my cluster.

A couple dozen players have gone from 'struggling' to "F it, why bother?"


I recommend lowering the minimum score for bottom level chest, both for clash and regular hydra rewards

I can't see any good reason against that suggestion. 

23 жовт. 2024, 19:1923.10.24
01.07.22
613

Yep we also had good strong competition and it wasn't a blowout by any clan. It seems a bit better now, but the next few weeks will be the true test

23 жовт. 2024, 21:0823.10.24
07.12.20
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thats what my clash ended up at, previously we cud get around 12bill, new system stops a Wixwell team winning by its self which was getting to be standard practice unless i tanked 2 outa 4 clashes, personally i like the changes, having said that i dont care as much about Hydra since they added the milestonr rewards

24 жовт. 2024, 07:5024.10.24
19.01.21
647

Overall score down by about 30%, participation down by maybe 10% (hard to say, used keys vary a lot from week to week while the score is relatively stable). We'll see how that develops, but I don't forsee this ending well, and my assumption is that participation this week will be down quite a bit more and the score somewhat further as it'll primarily be the ones that already struggled that lose interest. This is a clan without any of the cheese teams that the patch was supposed to take care of, by the way.

harleQuinnModerator
27 жовт. 2024, 17:1727.10.24
24.02.19
8064

Still a lot of keys to go but scores have definitely been closer. No one clan up by 200 billion anymore.

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dthorne04Moderator
27 жовт. 2024, 19:1827.10.24
30.12.20
6534
harleQuinn

Still a lot of keys to go but scores have definitely been closer. No one clan up by 200 billion anymore.

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can't say I miss the crazy scores/pressure to hit insane outliers. it's also nice that if I'm rerunning keys it is a lot less time sinky now. 💪

harleQuinnModerator
27 жовт. 2024, 21:5527.10.24
24.02.19
8064
dthorne04

can't say I miss the crazy scores/pressure to hit insane outliers. it's also nice that if I'm rerunning keys it is a lot less time sinky now. 💪

30 minute auto, 45 minute manual keys, and on my phone too!! Best part about changes imo.

30 жовт. 2024, 09:2230.10.24
19.01.21
647

Well, here's this week's update: worse than I thought. Total score is about half of what it was, less if I compare to our top score rather than some estimated average, and used keys is down to just below 60%. If I remove the keys used that are obviously just fire-and-forget usage to get the daily quest done, it's closer to 40% of what it was, and that's using a generous interpretation of the key use and granting a few pre-changes keys also being throwaways even though I don't remember seeing that much. Worst-case is actually below 30%.

Nightmare is not even close to being beaten. Brutal is dead, presumably because those that still can hit it actually do. Hard is not dead, I'm guessing that's because those that still use keys primarily do nightmare and brutal and hard gets the C-team at best. Normal is, mostly because 2 people who could use the keys on higher tiers probably can't be bothered and did enough between them to take it down. 

So overall, disaster for my clan in terms of both performance and engagement. Maybe it's a statistical anomaly this week in particular, but I doubt it. If anything, I expect it'll get a bit worse even, though not nearly as much as the hits the past 2 weeks. We'll see.

30 жовт. 2024, 14:0530.10.24
07.12.20
143

Without a Shamael or close to 100% veil coverage running a auto team is basically impossible imo

combined with the fact the ai is braindead for probably every champ now, the minium u have to do is target heads, i can live with this but i have a rough idea whats going on

people starting out or just runnig auto teams with decent champs will get very sick very fast of the changes as noted by Egdnit

30 жовт. 2024, 15:3630.10.24
19.12.19
6552

I agree that "waiting for more data" to make any obvious AI improvements makes absolutely zero sense. 

30 жовт. 2024, 19:4930.10.24
19.12.19
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Week 2 update 

Every key matters still...

30 жовт. 2024, 20:3030.10.24
16.12.21
1484

Lol. Your clan and mine are in very very different leagues


...unless we get matched up after you tanked a couple off-weeks. 😋

ShortOnSkillzModerator
30 жовт. 2024, 20:3430.10.24
24.06.19
2698
Trips


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Week 2 update 

Every key matters still...

Any Trunda enjoyers in there?