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2 жовт. 2024, 21:1102.10.24
08.10.17
1134

500 SPEED ?

So watched the most recent ASH video  (by the way he is  now the single most Subbed CC  of this game with over 300K) .  Where he interviews the   #1 LIVE arena Player in the WORLD

I am subbed  to both ofcourse and  love them both.  But when he said  as #1  in the world he is not even in the  TOP 10 players with most speed... He said his best is  speed  475  .   Makes  me ask is the  Top 10 pushing 500 speed

All comes back to how important speed is in this  game

Loved that Ash video and need to watch it a 2nd time to  try and absorb all the  vital info there

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ShortOnSkillzModerator
2 жовт. 2024, 22:4302.10.24
24.06.19
2698

I'm sure there's a few over 500 now.  The theoretical max is well over 500 

2 жовт. 2024, 23:1602.10.24
31.01.20
1146

I don't pretend to be a top-end speedster in Raid.  My two fastest toons are (only) around 360, and that does sometimes feel slower than ever.  

2 жовт. 2024, 23:3802.10.24
19.12.19
6552
WileyMan

I don't pretend to be a top-end speedster in Raid.  My two fastest toons are (only) around 360, and that does sometimes feel slower than ever.  

I don't have anyone above the 340s ...

2 жовт. 2024, 23:5102.10.24
2 жовт. 2024, 23:52(відредаговано)
16.12.21
1484

5 pieces of gear, quad role mythic speed: 36 * 5 = 180

6* boots, speed acension: 45 + 12                       + 57

banner, quad role mythic speed                           + 36

6 piece speed set, 2 piece feral: 36 + 10              + 46    =319

Lore of steel  (180+57+36+46) *1.15                                =366.85

Area bonus great hall                                            =20

+4 empowerment                                                 =15

6* lego blessing                                                     =15

       

 Total WITHOUT buffs, aura, passives                                =419.85


On a champ with a base speed of 110:                              =529.86

Speed aura + 6* intimidating presence:         [up to] 54

Speed buff, masteries like whirldwind of death                  =700+



Did I miss anything?

3 жовт. 2024, 00:1303.10.24
3 жовт. 2024, 01:48(відредаговано)
31.01.20
1146
MooredRat

5 pieces of gear, quad role mythic speed: 36 * 5 = 180

6* boots, speed acension: 45 + 12                       + 57

banner, quad role mythic speed                           + 36

6 piece speed set, 2 piece feral: 36 + 10              + 46    =319

Lore of steel  (180+57+36+46) *1.15                                =366.85

Area bonus great hall                                            =20

+4 empowerment                                                 =15

6* lego blessing                                                     =15

       

 Total WITHOUT buffs, aura, passives                                =419.85


On a champ with a base speed of 110:                              =529.86

Speed aura + 6* intimidating presence:         [up to] 54

Speed buff, masteries like whirldwind of death                  =700+



Did I miss anything?

First, Your Lore of Steel calculation is not accurate.  Lore of Steel modifies only the increase of speed for the gearset bonus, not all of the speed from the substats, so:

(1) 6 Pieces of Speed gear on a toon with 110 base speed is:

  • 110 x .36 = 39.6
  • 39.6 x .15 = 5.94 speed bonus from LoS

(2) 3 Protection Accessories on a toon with 110 base speed is:

  • 110 x .12 = 13.2
  • 13.2 x .15 = 1.98 speed bonus from LoS 

Maximum speed bonus from Gear is 50.8 and from LoS is 7.92, for a grand total of 58.72.

Second, you missed Faction Guardians for +10

Third, this started as an Live Arena Example, and there is no Area Bonus for Arena, so -20

Fourth, Glyphs will be 6 x 8 maximum additional speed:  + 48

3 жовт. 2024, 00:1603.10.24
08.07.19
1011
MooredRat

5 pieces of gear, quad role mythic speed: 36 * 5 = 180

6* boots, speed acension: 45 + 12                       + 57

banner, quad role mythic speed                           + 36

6 piece speed set, 2 piece feral: 36 + 10              + 46    =319

Lore of steel  (180+57+36+46) *1.15                                =366.85

Area bonus great hall                                            =20

+4 empowerment                                                 =15

6* lego blessing                                                     =15

       

 Total WITHOUT buffs, aura, passives                                =419.85


On a champ with a base speed of 110:                              =529.86

Speed aura + 6* intimidating presence:         [up to] 54

Speed buff, masteries like whirldwind of death                  =700+



Did I miss anything?

you appear to have left out the glyphs, so that's another 48 right there.

you've messed up in applying lore of steel though, so that's pushing the total higher than it should. it only increases the set bonuses by 1.15, so that'll only add another 5 or 6 speed to the total (speaking of set bonuses, you'll get more speed with 6 piece speed, 3 piece protection).

3 жовт. 2024, 00:3103.10.24
16.12.21
1484

Yep, you both got me, completely missed glyphs, messed up some of the other calcs.


Still, it's quite *possible* with absurd rolls to get a champ to well over 700 speed

3 жовт. 2024, 02:2003.10.24
25.06.20
6843

Zzz... meanwhile my arena teams are at 130 speed :)

dthorne04Moderator
3 жовт. 2024, 03:2203.10.24
30.12.20
6534
Trips

I don't have anyone above the 340s ...

I can get over 400 but I think the fastest practical champ I have is Basher (my lockout king) at 385 or so. Most of my nukers are 200-220ish, supports 270-290 (with obvious exceptions)

3 жовт. 2024, 04:3703.10.24
3 жовт. 2024, 04:38(відредаговано)
01.07.22
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MooredRat

5 pieces of gear, quad role mythic speed: 36 * 5 = 180

6* boots, speed acension: 45 + 12                       + 57

banner, quad role mythic speed                           + 36

6 piece speed set, 2 piece feral: 36 + 10              + 46    =319

Lore of steel  (180+57+36+46) *1.15                                =366.85

Area bonus great hall                                            =20

+4 empowerment                                                 =15

6* lego blessing                                                     =15

       

 Total WITHOUT buffs, aura, passives                                =419.85


On a champ with a base speed of 110:                              =529.86

Speed aura + 6* intimidating presence:         [up to] 54

Speed buff, masteries like whirldwind of death                  =700+



Did I miss anything?

only thing I'd say is 3 Supersonic accessories would be 10% more speed, since 2 feral accessories would be 5%

EDIT: Actually scratch that, 3 Protection Accessories would be another 12% so that's even better

ShortOnSkillzModerator
3 жовт. 2024, 18:1003.10.24
3 жовт. 2024, 18:10(відредаговано)
24.06.19
2698
dthorne04

I can get over 400 but I think the fastest practical champ I have is Basher (my lockout king) at 385 or so. Most of my nukers are 200-220ish, supports 270-290 (with obvious exceptions)

Can't wait for you to pull Yumeko and Warlord this weekend.  #JustThorneyThings 

3 жовт. 2024, 18:4803.10.24
01.07.22
613
ShortOnSkillz

Can't wait for you to pull Yumeko and Warlord this weekend.  #JustThorneyThings 

Pft you probably just jinxed him, now its gonna be 9 Harriers and a Angar

harleQuinnModerator
3 жовт. 2024, 21:5903.10.24
24.02.19
8064
Onikage55

Pft you probably just jinxed him, now its gonna be 9 Harriers and a Angar

That's not how it works for Thorne. You can't jinx him, his luck is stronger than any jinx.

dthorne04Moderator
3 жовт. 2024, 22:0003.10.24
3 жовт. 2024, 22:00(відредаговано)
30.12.20
6534
harleQuinn

That's not how it works for Thorne. You can't jinx him, his luck is stronger than any jinx.

I'm expecting a +4 basher and some combo of Warlord/Yume/2nd Narses/Odin/super murder Shadowkin guy by the end of the weekend :)

ShortOnSkillzModerator
3 жовт. 2024, 22:2703.10.24
24.06.19
2698
harleQuinn

That's not how it works for Thorne. You can't jinx him, his luck is stronger than any jinx.

Oni is unfamiliar with Thornes power.  The more you try to jinx him the more lucksack he becomes.  Hate fuels him, he's a true Philadelphian.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
3 жовт. 2024, 22:3503.10.24
24.06.19
2698
dthorne04

I'm expecting a +4 basher and some combo of Warlord/Yume/2nd Narses/Odin/super murder Shadowkin guy by the end of the weekend :)

If you don't you owe me and Q each a Harima.

4 жовт. 2024, 00:0504.10.24
01.07.22
613
ShortOnSkillz

Oni is unfamiliar with Thornes power.  The more you try to jinx him the more lucksack he becomes.  Hate fuels him, he's a true Philadelphian.

Well at least he gets to shop at WaWa sometimes

12 жовт. 2024, 14:2112.10.24
08.10.17
1134

So I just asked on LIVE chat what you all stated and the EXPERTS  just stated  (Experts being top Live arena champions META)

510 will be max speed anywhere in the game

Just saying

I am subbed to soooooo many  YouTube CCs  = its the only  TV  I watch ...so to speak

ShortOnSkillzModerator
12 жовт. 2024, 17:4912.10.24
24.06.19
2698
PriestGuardian

So I just asked on LIVE chat what you all stated and the EXPERTS  just stated  (Experts being top Live arena champions META)

510 will be max speed anywhere in the game

Just saying

I am subbed to soooooo many  YouTube CCs  = its the only  TV  I watch ...so to speak

I mean that's mathematically wrong on its face.

115 - Base Speed
57 - Speed Ascended Boots ( 45 + 12 )
48 - Speed Glyphs ( 6 * 8 )
216 - Speed Rolls ( 36 * 6 )
55.2 - Set Bonus ( 5 Prot + 4 Speed )
8.28 - Lore of Steel ( 48% * 0.15 )
15 - 6* Awakening
10 - Full Faction Guardians
15 - +4 Empowerment

539.48 theoretical max

12 жовт. 2024, 18:3612.10.24
08.10.17
1134
ShortOnSkillz

I mean that's mathematically wrong on its face.

115 - Base Speed
57 - Speed Ascended Boots ( 45 + 12 )
48 - Speed Glyphs ( 6 * 8 )
216 - Speed Rolls ( 36 * 6 )
55.2 - Set Bonus ( 5 Prot + 4 Speed )
8.28 - Lore of Steel ( 48% * 0.15 )
15 - 6* Awakening
10 - Full Faction Guardians
15 - +4 Empowerment

539.48 theoretical max

I can only report on what the EXPERTS tell me and I am in no way an expert of this topic.

Not disputing what you say.

Just telling you what the BEST in the game who are Ranked number  1  in the World tell me :/