I Was thinking the same. There is almost no point in single target skills/Champions if aoe dmg deals the same dmg.

Well, it totally depends on your team setup.

AOE champs are basically better for campaign and dungeons but worse for cb (compare Skullcrown and Athel or Nazana and Rhazin etc.).

In arena both can shine, sometimes dealing aoe with every attack is great, but once you meet teams that have a strategic build up, you will notice that aoes can backfire heavily - for example against Martyr, Valkyrie, Atur etc.

Well, it totally depends on your team setup.

AOE champs are basically better for campaign and dungeons but worse for cb (compare Skullcrown and Athel or Nazana and Rhazin etc.).

In arena both can shine, sometimes dealing aoe with every attack is great, but once you meet teams that have a strategic build up, you will notice that aoes can backfire heavily - for example against Martyr, Valkyrie, Atur etc.

So it's not as easy as one might think ;)

addmeister said:

Well, it totally depends on your team setup.

AOE champs are basically better for campaign and dungeons but worse for cb (compare Skullcrown and Athel or Nazana and Rhazin etc.).

In arena both can shine, sometimes dealing aoe with every attack is great, but once you meet teams that have a strategic build up, you will notice that aoes can backfire heavily - for example against Martyr, Valkyrie, Atur etc.

So it's not as easy as one might think ;)

I have to disagree that in arena it can backfire.  Even with someone like Atur, if an AoE damage my champion does hits every single character, and then Atur hits me back because of his skill, so what?  If I have lifesteal on my champion, I probably just topped their HP off with the attack anyway, so no big deal.  I still fail to see how it can backfire.  My damage will still exceed my enemies unless they have a ton of counterattacks on their end, which I have yet to come across.

Congrats, you discovered the beauty of AOE attack with life steal set. If it works for you - enjoy the ride. Seems like if Magmablood is your most OP champion - you have a lot to discover ahead of you. Now, calm down and imagine one of the following scenarios:

1. enemy team has an HP champ with shield set - you cast all your shiny AOE that does 0 damage and doesn't heal - if your champs are picked for their single powerful AOE spell, you practically lost, cuz next 4-5 turns you can't do much.

2. enemy team has Valkyrie or Skullcrusher who casts ally counterattack - for every AOE used, you get attacked by 3-4 champs with all sorts of debuffs. What's important with counterattack is that when you attack with full HP - you don't heal, after that you get counterattacked - so you still lose health.

3. enemy team has Seeker - your AOE attack triggers him to heal and apply ally DEF buff

4. enemy team has reflect damage, that hits you through life steal

5. enemy team has shadow heal masteries, so they heal every time you heal from life steal

list goes on..

AOE damage by itself is not a big deal. Buffs/debuffs, crowd control - these are the important things. A champion who can effectively lock down one target (i.e. enemy healer) is better than champion who can damage all targets. Of course, if you have Shirimani or Bellower who both attack all and apply debuffs/freezes all - then it's a different story.

kalo said:

Congrats, you discovered the beauty of AOE attack with life steal set. If it works for you - enjoy the ride. Seems like if Magmablood is your most OP champion - you have a lot to discover ahead of you. Now, calm down and imagine one of the following scenarios:

1. enemy team has an HP champ with shield set - you cast all your shiny AOE that does 0 damage and doesn't heal - if your champs are picked for their single powerful AOE spell, you practically lost, cuz next 4-5 turns you can't do much.

2. enemy team has Valkyrie or Skullcrusher who casts ally counterattack - for every AOE used, you get attacked by 3-4 champs with all sorts of debuffs. What's important with counterattack is that when you attack with full HP - you don't heal, after that you get counterattacked - so you still lose health.

3. enemy team has Seeker - your AOE attack triggers him to heal and apply ally DEF buff

4. enemy team has reflect damage, that hits you through life steal

5. enemy team has shadow heal masteries, so they heal every time you heal from life steal

list goes on..

AOE damage by itself is not a big deal. Buffs/debuffs, crowd control - these are the important things. A champion who can effectively lock down one target (i.e. enemy healer) is better than champion who can damage all targets. Of course, if you have Shirimani or Bellower who both attack all and apply debuffs/freezes all - then it's a different story.

Thanks for the information.  Seems my problem is that being in bronze currently, there is a lot of what you explained above that I am not running into yet. 

kalo said:

Congrats, you discovered the beauty of AOE attack with life steal set. If it works for you - enjoy the ride. Seems like if Magmablood is your most OP champion - you have a lot to discover ahead of you. Now, calm down and imagine one of the following scenarios:

1. enemy team has an HP champ with shield set - you cast all your shiny AOE that does 0 damage and doesn't heal - if your champs are picked for their single powerful AOE spell, you practically lost, cuz next 4-5 turns you can't do much.

2. enemy team has Valkyrie or Skullcrusher who casts ally counterattack - for every AOE used, you get attacked by 3-4 champs with all sorts of debuffs. What's important with counterattack is that when you attack with full HP - you don't heal, after that you get counterattacked - so you still lose health.

3. enemy team has Seeker - your AOE attack triggers him to heal and apply ally DEF buff

4. enemy team has reflect damage, that hits you through life steal

5. enemy team has shadow heal masteries, so they heal every time you heal from life steal

list goes on..

AOE damage by itself is not a big deal. Buffs/debuffs, crowd control - these are the important things. A champion who can effectively lock down one target (i.e. enemy healer) is better than champion who can damage all targets. Of course, if you have Shirimani or Bellower who both attack all and apply debuffs/freezes all - then it's a different story.

Hello

This is well said nice work.

Though I will be cheeky and say that my gold 4 team is a glass cannon and relies on damage output to win(the team contains AOEs).