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2 лют. 2017, 22:4202.02.17
231990

Ridiculous Monster Fleets

I fail to understand why these money players like coromal with Pirates United, attack thousands of Dread units get upset when someone of a lot lower level responds to their raid with a Fireship. Are you really so arrogant that you think you should be able to just run around with these stupid numbers raiding people attempting to intimidate them? Or are you just trying to show off the money you spend?

Or maybe you are just stupid and expect the player to send an attack against you and lose their entire fleet.


Low level players that don't have much money to spend, only wise investment is to get FireShips. At least that way they have a chance of getting some points back as you luv that PvP so much.

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3 лют. 2017, 01:2503.02.17
231990
I find that weird. When you raid someone you should be expecting them to retaliate so by him getting upset meant that all that money he spent to beat people and intimidate them did not work. Guess he was upset that his strategy did not work and he used a lot of money for it. Especially on a smaller guy than him (I am assuming here). Well if your are upset, don't be, try to enjoy the game as it is designed to be played.
3 лют. 2017, 02:2403.02.17
231990
Not upset about it just proves with Money idiots out there that want to block you only option is to use fireships so he will keep getting what I can buy and It will destroy little bits of his defense, after all he's placed 200 Krackens on my haven LOL Pirates United Doesn't have enough Presidio's appearantly that require his defens where is RuAL LOLOLOL
3 лют. 2017, 08:0503.02.17
3 лют. 2017, 08:10(відредаговано)
28.07.16
116

Firstly I am not in Pirates United, secondly I have no idea what anyone else’s game plan is or how much money they may or may not spend.


I do not think 200 Krakens is a monster fleet to be honest guys, a lot of players do not use dread fleet to its best advantage.


If a player wishes to spend their money on a game, should it be a subject to public ridicule? <rhetoric>


I am sure someone can make a counter argument of the wisdom of spending money on fire ships, likewise a lot of players do not use them efficiently either.


I would also like to add, at level 101 ( last time I looked) it isn't going to be easy to find some one above or the same, player level, Now is it!



Regards Raventor

3 лют. 2017, 22:2403.02.17
10.07.16
176

I have seen some hilarious stuff while doing the terrible 10, blockades.


Sending O to liberate and leaving it there - glug, glug, glug as they sink to my O blockade.


Sending D to liberate, I set a D trap and, glug, glug, glug as they sink.


Even funnier is, instead of asking a BH advisor, they then send even more, glug, glug, glug.


With fire ships, not terrible 10 related, sending 10 at a haven with 1 scally and no cannon.


Plarium has to love these folks.


As for why the coiners send so much, who cares? Once in a while they get caught napping with 10M of O out - glug, glug, glug.


We need coiners, someone has to pay for the server bandwidth. 

3 лют. 2017, 22:5203.02.17
231990

Raventor said:


Firstly I am not in Pirates United, secondly I have no idea what anyone else’s game plan is or how much money they may or may not spend.

Wow I don't remember seeing your name in the post, Interesting maybe coromal is your alternate account


I do not think 200 Krakens is a monster fleet to be honest guys, a lot of players do not use dread fleet to its best advantage.

Sorry my Mistake it was 500 Krakens and all other Defensive Dreads with the supporting units 


If a player wishes to spend their money on a game, should it be a subject to public ridicule? <rhetoric>

When a Player attempts to use it to intimidate others and chase them out of the game  YES


I am sure someone can make a counter argument of the wisdom of spending money on fire ships, likewise a lot of players do not use them efficiently either.

Wow I'm certain if you were so wise with the Game RuAL would have come knocking on your door

I would also like to add, at level 101 ( last time I looked) it isn't going to be easy to find some one above or the same, player level, Now is it!

And your point is? Because you spend a lot of money proves more that you have to win by buying it than knowledge and strategy



3 лют. 2017, 23:2503.02.17
13.12.15
203

what a bunch of nonsense....it is normal that someone who have more money than you have bigger house or better car...

what is the problem ?

4 лют. 2017, 01:1804.02.17
06.11.15
415
Plank said:

I fail to understand why these money players like coromal with Pirates United, attack thousands of Dread units get upset when someone of a lot lower level responds to their raid with a Fireship. Are you really so arrogant that you think you should be able to just run around with these stupid numbers raiding people attempting to intimidate them? Or are you just trying to show off the money you spend?

Or maybe you are just stupid and expect the player to send an attack against you and lose their entire fleet.


Low level players that don't have much money to spend, only wise investment is to get FireShips. At least that way they have a chance of getting some points back as you luv that PvP so much.

Anyone, feel free to correct my math if it is wrong, but, according to my math, 1 Fireship cost 500 rubies. It is capable of destroying 5 Juggernauts. 5 Juggernauts cost 833 rubies. If my math is correct, then you get more Bang for your buck buying Fireships. 
4 лют. 2017, 01:3604.02.17
29.12.16
2

This whole thread sounds to me like someone is b-u-t-t-hurt because they got attacked.

I'm new to the game, a low level 21, but I knew going into it that one day you'll win some and some other day you won't. And no, I don't know any of you here or in the game.

As for people spending money on the game - their choice, their money. Life isn't fair. Some have money to spend, some don't. I  see that you registered over 6 months ago- so you have been playing for a while. I would have expected that by now you should know how 'games' work in general. Don't be a sore loser.

Then again, if you are a kid (I do not know your age) - then I apologize to you and tell you that you have every right to be upset. However, if you are a grown up you need to get over it. It's embarrassing.

Everybody here wants to play their game - and not yours.

If it makes you feel better - come attack me, because I really don't care. It is - after all - just a game.

4 лют. 2017, 08:3104.02.17
4 лют. 2017, 08:32(відредаговано)
28.07.16
116

Plank said:



Wow I'm certain if you were so wise with the Game RuAL would have come knocking on your door


And your point is? Because you spend a lot of money proves more that you have to win by buying it than knowledge and strategy


Point A

I am sure RuAL do not need my help, they seem to be doing very well without me, and why I would want to join someone else is an idea that has not crossed my mind.


Point B You are entitled to your opinion, The problem with expressing your opinion is when you do it in a public area, all the people reading it, formulate an opinion of the person expressing that opinion.


Your opinion I find  “ Bizarre ”



Enjoy your day plank.


Reventor


4 лют. 2017, 08:4304.02.17
4 лют. 2017, 08:45(відредаговано)
28.07.16
116

matchy said:


This whole thread sounds to me like someone is b-u-t-t-hurt because they got attacked.

I'm new to the game, a low level 21, but I knew going into it that one day you'll win some and some other day you won't. And no, I don't know any of you here or in the game.

As for people spending money on the game - their choice, their money. Life isn't fair. Some have money to spend, some don't. I  see that you registered over 6 months ago- so you have been playing for a while. I would have expected that by now you should know how 'games' work in general. Don't be a sore loser.

Then again, if you are a kid (I do not know your age) - then I apologize to you and tell you that you have every right to be upset. However, if you are a grown up you need to get over it. It's embarrassing.

Everybody here wants to play their game - and not yours.

If it makes you feel better - come attack me, because I really don't care. It is - after all - just a game.


Well said matchy thums up!


Raventor


4 квіт. 2017, 10:5504.04.17
10.04.16
2
Raventor said:

matchy said:


This whole thread sounds to me like someone is b-u-t-t-hurt because they got attacked.

I'm new to the game, a low level 21, but I knew going into it that one day you'll win some and some other day you won't. And no, I don't know any of you here or in the game.

As for people spending money on the game - their choice, their money. Life isn't fair. Some have money to spend, some don't. I  see that you registered over 6 months ago- so you have been playing for a while. I would have expected that by now you should know how 'games' work in general. Don't be a sore loser.

Then again, if you are a kid (I do not know your age) - then I apologize to you and tell you that you have every right to be upset. However, if you are a grown up you need to get over it. It's embarrassing.

Everybody here wants to play their game - and not yours.

If it makes you feel better - come attack me, because I really don't care. It is - after all - just a game.


Well said matchy thums up!


Raventor



5 квіт. 2017, 19:5605.04.17
29.09.15
4

CHECK THIS OUT


 http://prntscr.com/er4kbs


Then tell me shiv is spending any money

6 квіт. 2017, 03:2206.04.17
06.11.14
579


I personally like my fireships, but I also use them to set traps. I fireship X player they come back and try to raid or block me. I ask my crew if they'd like pvp or leave out my own defense, so yours is wiped out. You complain PU is coining for Krakens, really. You're doing the same thing for fireships. Isn't that calling the kettle black or did I miss something. 


Lastly if you're a low level player, why are you tangling with players in the 70s+? If you're new to the game you can expect players in the higher levels to know what they're doing more so than yourself. They may not be pros but they have the experience to have an edge over you.


Lastly as an experienced player the fleets of 10 million plus many of have aren't because we bought them its because we knew how to work the ligthouse to our favor
6 квіт. 2017, 09:3906.04.17
231990

Raventor said:


Top Russian Mafias ?? Ant they got far more important things to be getting on with like election rigging , and making money ( not spending it in a pirate game ) ???


6 квіт. 2017, 22:2606.04.17
6 квіт. 2017, 22:29(відредаговано)
06.11.14
579

Ah I see so you old people and the mafia go hand in hand. This would explain why the heaviest "coiners" are elderly



I'm half the age of most of my crew so you're all old folk to me :D :D


11 квіт. 2017, 07:3811.04.17
20.10.13
170
3 трав. 2017, 03:0303.05.17
15.02.16
54

Greetings pirates 

Thank you Coromal for shedding some light on what has been going on here for some time now 

Plarium refuses to admit it 

But lie and deny seems to be something that is done well here 

They know it is going on but refuse to do anything about it or are unable to stop it 

The same goes for this clown Master that appears out of no where peddling his wares once a month

Until Plarium admits there is a problem here nothing will be done about it 

The cheats will continue on 

@ Crowbar hacking / cheating  same same 

Cheers 

CrowbarModerator
3 трав. 2017, 05:2003.05.17
07.03.16
2422

Kaptain Kidd said:

Thank you Coromal for shedding some light on what has been going on here for some time now 

Plarium refuses to admit it

I'm pretty sure that Alyona "admitted" it somewhere, also claiming that they are fighting it.

Kaptain Kidd said:

They know it is going on but refuse to do anything about it or are unable to stop it 

You obviously didn't understand Coromal's post. It boils down to writing your own client. The server has no way of telling yours and the original one apart. As I keep saying: the problem that needs solving is (mass) alting, not some mysterious "hacking".

Kaptain Kidd said:

@ Crowbar hacking / cheating same same

No, it's not. "Ordinary" alting is also cheating, but it has nothing to do with hacking. Hacking would imply a breaking that could and should be patched.

CrowbarModerator
4 лют. 2017, 12:2904.02.17
07.03.16
2422

awmllr said:

Anyone, feel free to correct my math if it is wrong, but, according to my math, 1 Fireship cost 500 rubies. It is capable of destroying 5 Juggernauts. 5 Juggernauts cost 833 rubies. If my math is correct, then you get more Bang for your buck buying Fireships. 

You're wrong.

First, and foremost, you get to use Juggs as many times as you can until they are killed. A Fireship is a one-time deal.

Second, closely related to the first, is that you're assuming a full kill for a Fireship. On average, if your Fireships kill 50% of their killing capacity (due to many players being turtled most of the time), you're quite lucky. This greatly reduces the "Juggs" part of the calculation.

Third, you can make Juggs with resources and time, i.e., for no money at all.

Fourth, when you kill someone's Juggs with a Fireship (presumably in their haven; you'll almost never find them reinforcing other havens), you kill 7 of them. They get 30% (i.e., 2) back for free (0 rubies), which brings us to your 5. But, further 40% of the original 7 (i.e., 3) can be revived for 50% of the price (250 rubies). So, to recover from losing 7 Juggs, you need to buy only the remaining 7-2-3 = 2 Juggs at full price (333 rubies). Your total expenses are 0+250+333=583 rubies, which is just a bit more expensive than a Fireship and this is the best/worst (depending on the perspective) scenario.

Disclaimer: Sure, Fireships can sometimes be bought at half of the price, but so can be Juggs and their revivals, so I'm ignoring those specials.


CrowbarModerator
2 трав. 2017, 19:3802.05.17
07.03.16
2422

Raventor said:

Is doing the above, game legal ?

No, but when did "illegal" stop people from doing something?

I wouldn't call the above "hacking", but it would definitely be cheating.