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9 листоп. 2016, 16:0509.11.16
231988

RE: Game Hackers--A formal response from a Plarium company respresentative....who, when, where???

So, when is an official representative from Plarium going to provide a formal response to player concerns?  Specifically, the concern of hackers who have breeched program securities in the game.


The circular logic provided in the forums hasn't forwarded this issue to any resolution.


First the moderators will not moderate the posts in the threads.  Surely they have the ability and access to deleting unrelated posts in a thread...bothersome.  Rather than keeping threads on topic, some actually participate and encourage the digressions in the threads.


Second, we are told nothing is wrong but as the days pass, we are also informed that Plarium can't monitor everything (take that as a broad sweeping term)...so how do they know when something is or isn't working according to design?  They don't; they depend on players, and yet treat the players rather badly.  Hope everyone in the game understands that your money has been deemed worthless, your experience and knowledge of the game ignored.


Third we are told not to spam support, but in order for support to "find" what we can see so obviously as the end user, we are then told to give support all the information and YET, we are then told that support prioritizes according to numbers of complaints, support tickets, etc....what?  I can't be alone in wondering the logic in this.  This one is just as insulting as the initial response in the forums.


One thing is sure, Plarium  will not or cannot provide community interactions with the people that really support it--us, the players.

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9 листоп. 2016, 17:5309.11.16
27.03.14
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bernd said:


it is terrible, i see Players quit all over the map ... plarium lets the game die and laughs at us stupid Players who payed them the last months ...



and now we can Count down to this russian CM posting here: "no cheating at all, please Report all bots to the Support but we can not give you any Information about wether we have done something or not, because we must protect the privacy of that non-human Players you reported."

Alyona is not a Russian, she is from Ukraine 

another thing even she has to follow the rules of the game as the Moderators do

She just has more power here, but she still has rules....


If you aren't happy with something then like we've said many times

message support, complaining here will get you nowhere 



http://support.plarium.com/enpirates/Tickets/Submit/Step1/23

9 листоп. 2016, 18:1909.11.16
27.03.14
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The mail bug is a whole different issue, it's coded in the game, and they are having problems with it...


but anyway, i have nothing further to say about plarium giving notices about the bots/and banned accountsthey won't share this info  


10 листоп. 2016, 11:2610.11.16
10 листоп. 2016, 11:27(відредаговано)
231988

The official reply was already given multiple times. No need to create new threads on the same topic. As I said before, our game is secure against cheats. No one can obtain Units, in-game currency, Resources or Items in an unfair way. You can receive them only for your in-game activity or in-app purchases. 

There are no working cheats that give you free Units/Rubies for Pirates. If someone claims he has one, he is spreading false information. If someone shares such programs, it's usually phishing that is aimed to get your game login and password (steal your account), and it doesn't work the way they claim it to work.

You might have probably heard about another program that is a bot program. It has the same functions as the game client. We ban for using it, but it can't give any advantages. It is a substitution of the game client, and you can do many game activities using it. But nothing beyond that.


10 листоп. 2016, 14:0710.11.16
27.03.14
1654

pillepopel said:


Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


The official reply was already given multiple times. No need to create new threads on the same topic. As I said before, our game is secure against cheats. No one can obtain Units, in-game currency, Resources or Items in an unfair way. You can receive them only for your in-game activity or in-app purchases. 

There are no working cheats that give you free Units/Rubies for Pirates. If someone claims he has one, he is spreading false information. If someone shares such programs, it's usually phishing that is aimed to get your game login and password (steal your account), and it doesn't work the way they claim it to work.

You might have probably heard about another program that is a bot program. It has the same functions as the game client. We ban for using it, but it can't give any advantages. It is a substitution of the game client, and you can do many game activities using it. But nothing beyond that.


you dont ban for using it, shiv is active and so are all his bots from three BH's, this Statement is a joke ... also controling thousands of bots can't give any Advantage?!?!


Here are the facts: you dont ban for blackmailing, you dont ban for using third Party Software.

Didn't pirates blackmail? I don't find an issue with blackmailing, unless you did it and paid them to stop attacking, then you are a fool..

they came in and trolled the map fired up the players here in every brotherhood and caused a huge riot among players...

I have yet seen any brotherhood here get together and actually do something about these guys....

Every BH among this platform hates them, yet hide behind a pixel account crying cheaters....

How many Bh's are against Rual? ( time to stop crying and put your heads together and fight like pirates ) 

If you want them gone then be the reason they ran with their tails between their legs 

Stop waiting for plarium to do something they said more than once they wont do............



10 листоп. 2016, 14:3210.11.16
10 листоп. 2016, 14:36(відредаговано)
231988

Blasphemy said:


Stop waiting for plarium to do something they said more than once they wont do............



Thank you, this is the first Statement from a plarium employee that states the truth, thats all the thread-creator asked for.

10 листоп. 2016, 14:5210.11.16
231988

Blasphemy said:


if you get enough brotherhoods together and used a good strategy then you will have a chance, sitting on a forum and whining about cheats 

is getting the solution here nowhere, Ive heard many times they are after the top brotherhoods on the map,

you can't tell me the 15 top bh's on the map don't have the offense to rip and do some damage

****

and how many lower Bh's here have the same issue and want them gone?? 

you don't wanna go against cheaters, but they have put up a thread already of the next victims 

and then the next after that? ( you may not wanna fight with cheaters but one way or another eventually you will have too )  

sorry, i wont give a single marauder for wiping out the defense of 150 bot accounts which can be replaced by 150 new ones the next day.


but i get your Point, as soon as the other BH's start using supporting tools, too it will be a fair game again.

10 листоп. 2016, 15:0710.11.16
27.03.14
1654

More like 120 in the one Rual BH 

and many are inactive right now... i have like 4 of them blocked

so you don't wanna kill pixel troops such as marauders, yet will come in here daily and cry about them?


( Look i understand nobody wants to attack them and lose troops because of the rumors of them cheating,

but nothing is being taken serious, and working "together" just seems to be an easier solution )  




10 листоп. 2016, 15:2010.11.16
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Blasphemy tells you that you are all cowards.  You should get together, burn 5 trillion offense against bots that produce any quantity of troops in no time ... then you buy your losses back with rubies and Blasphemy and plarium will have their next party with free drinks, dead laughing:  "Look, I called them cowards and now money flows in again ..."


"Coward" and "stupid" are two very different things, Blasphemy, learn it.
10 листоп. 2016, 15:3010.11.16
27.03.14
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that's not what i said...

but i am done talking.....


11 листоп. 2016, 15:5711.11.16
11 листоп. 2016, 16:02(відредаговано)
231988
your link was deleted - lol, but i found another better one on kabam from jan 2016^^

http://forum.plarium.com/kabam/en/pirates-tides-of-fortune/game-discussion/topics/botting-accounts/


26 January, 2016, 4:56 AM UTC
I am looking through the top 100 for PVP rankings and I am noticing something a bit odd

http://prntscr.com/9uwycp

The top 100 rankings are full of people (bots?), that:

Are in Tigres de malasia BH (yesterday they were all in War Pigs 2, but all have since moved BHs) haha, from where we know this?
Mostly have Spanish or Mexican sounding names
Most have similar coordinates / are clustered together on the map botline like our bigbigdata havens?
Most are level 65 or level 66
I find all of this a bit too much of a coincidence. If they are all bot accounts that were created around the same time, then this may explain why they are mostly all on XP level 65 and 66, and the other similarities.



Could Kabam please look into this? Are all accounts owned by the same IP address, etc, and if so, how many other accounts does this IP address own? Or am I just being more paranoid than usual?


same story, different server :) only one answer, pls write to the support....

13 листоп. 2016, 21:0813.11.16
13 листоп. 2016, 21:10(відредаговано)
231988
now you are the one being sarcastic ... on the first page you say plarium wont do anything.
14 листоп. 2016, 00:0514.11.16
14 листоп. 2016, 00:13(відредаговано)
231988

As I already said a few days ago here: http://plarium.com/forum/en/pirates-tides-of-fortune/game-discussion/31448_share-my-thoughts--ideas-and-advice-here/?post=208743 cheaters messed up for 6 years with 6 games (Sparta: War of Empires, Stormfall: Age of War, Pirates: Tides of Fortune, Soldiers Inc, Total Domination, Nords: Heroes of the North) on 7 Plarium platforms (VKontakte, Odnoklasniki, Moi [email protected], Plarium.com, Plarium.com/ru, Facebook and Games.mail.ru.


http://prnt.sc/d6x67n


Can't understand why Plarium knew it and did nothing to defend their own games. Maybe is convenient to them?

14 листоп. 2016, 14:5214.11.16
231988

piratei said:


As I already said a few days ago here: http://plarium.com/forum/en/pirates-tides-of-fortune/game-discussion/31448_share-my-thoughts--ideas-and-advice-here/?post=208743 cheaters messed up for 6 years with 6 games (Sparta: War of Empires, Stormfall: Age of War, Pirates: Tides of Fortune, Soldiers Inc, Total Domination, Nords: Heroes of the North) on 7 Plarium platforms (VKontakte, Odnoklasniki, Moi [email protected], Plarium.com, Plarium.com/ru, Facebook and Games.mail.ru.


http://prnt.sc/d6x67n


Can't understand why Plarium knew it and did nothing to defend their own games. Maybe is convenient to them?

If you notice any suspicious activity on any server, in any of our games, please report it to our Support Team. It's one of their responsibilities - to check such reports and take the necessary measures if needed. 

Of course you can share your concerns on forum with other players. However, all violations should be reported through the right channels. Other players on Forum, Moderators and even Community Managers don't check such reports. It's our Support Team who do.
14 листоп. 2016, 18:2714.11.16
231988

The point I'm trying to make and not succeeding very well at it is this:  While it is fine to send players with concerns to support, is not support only a part of the company or is support "the company"?  When will we here something from the company about this?  When?


All kinds of official announcements have been made since this all stated about somebody hacking into the game.  Just how hard is it for an official announcement be made specifically to a global concern about hacking that says even the minimal "We heard you"?  A better one would be "We heard and we will keep you informed on the progress" and then commit to a schedule of progress reports...even if it is to say, nothing new has changed.  Of course the last risks player dissatisfaction; but, again, could it be any more dissatisfying the way it is now?



15 листоп. 2016, 02:5315.11.16
231988
No, a PROFESSIONAL one would be "While we investigate the slim possiibillity that some one breached server security, let us assure you that no one accessed encrypted credit card , name, and address customer data."
15 листоп. 2016, 15:0715.11.16
15 листоп. 2016, 16:43(відредаговано)
231988

Well it has become ever so clear that Plarium does not intend to spend the $$$ to fix this problem. Even as it has started to affect their other games they still sit idly by. From what I have gathered without  playing them all, is that all the Plarium Games are the same basic type of game just different scenery, characters, weapons, currency etc. 

To develop a new game means changing everything about the game. Trying to resolve a problem is much harder than just drawing new characters and developing new weapons. Those kind of coders are just Modifiers and not true game developers. Plarium needs to hire some real developers and get some new muscle in the house.

We have initially gotten the Haven Name change wrong, it should not be "NO $ for Cheats" the cheaters aren't making a dime except maybe a Back door from Plarium.


CHANGE THE HAVEN NAME TO:      NO $ PLARIUM


Edited by Blasphemy - there was a complaint about a racist remark added 
16 листоп. 2016, 21:5516.11.16
231988

I am reading all of these comments by both players and moderators.  What I will agree to is there is NO word from plarium support in any of the forums. This could be a non-descript type comment by them if they were to post anything.  They don't have to identify themselves personally - just 'PLARIUM SUPPORT'.


What the LATEST major focal point is HOW is RUAL placing #1 again in the latest Prize event and with those numbers?  You KNOW players loose units, but they also gain units as well.  And if it is true that they have 500 million offense means that they are doing high lever prizes - but, they would loose them just as quickly.  Higher prize levels mean higher prize rewards.  but, juggs, sols and subs - not always.  Still Cheeting????  hmm - one has to wonder.


Now, what is interesting in all of this about RUAL is that they obviously have access to OUR server or hacked into it to be here in the first place - but, why isn't THEIR server accessible by US???  Is this Plarium playing tricks and discriminating against other players to NOT have access to RUAL's russian server.  Not GOOD Plarium - NOT good. 


Or is the rumor true that RUAL is PLARIUM and plarium just wants the game broken down?  We have to be vigilante - everyone does - don't stop not looking and checking and submitting endlessly to plarium support - if they do exist and its not SHIV running it behind the scenes.


Just because Rual isn't obviously raiding/blocking/attacking crossbones or navy seal fleet yet - that its over.   Its not.. not by a long shot.  and hey - maybe spenpal is working with shiv - THERE'S A THOUGHT!


We need to be proud of Pilgrim Slayers and what they meant to this game.  They were and still are one of the most honorable brotherhoods out there.  They lost presidios and their territory and units too - but, it was their honesty and consideration for everyone that they will always be number one in my book as they should be in yours!









17 листоп. 2016, 14:0717.11.16
17 листоп. 2016, 14:47(відредаговано)
13.12.15
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this game has become one big joke as well like this forum...

many times I asked what should be the proof

no one has ever answered 


18 листоп. 2016, 11:5318.11.16
18 листоп. 2016, 11:56(відредаговано)
231988

Crowbar said:


Not defending anyone, but how do you know they are not spending truckloads of money?


So are they? That can be easily checked by Plarium. In fact, that question has been asked on here right after  Plarium said that "units were obtained in a legal way".  Are we to assume then that since they are still playing, they actually spend thousands of dollars/euros per month to play? 

11 листоп. 2016, 12:4811.11.16
11 листоп. 2016, 18:44(відредаговано)
231988

http://forum.plarium.com/kabam/en/pirates-tides-of-fortune/news-and-announcements/topics/etchings-------/



just found this from the kabam-server forum ... its from march 2016. they are talking about our server in this thread, that we have thousands of bots and that bots at different other games starting to rule the prize-rankings suddenly.



plarium knows that the game isnt safe since a long time.