Gut said:

This isn't a complaint or suggestion, rather a plea from a long-term happy customer.

Wow! I didn't know that those existed.

Gut said:

I can't compete in my BH upgrade challenge because I'm maxed on everything.

Do you really have all the buildings at max and all the discoveries at level 32?! 

Gut said:

Would you be willing to show some love to your committed-completionist customers for the BH upgrade challenges?

What kind of love do you have in mind? I wouldn't expect any "love" here without giving some concrete (and viable) suggestions.

You can repeatedly destroy then rebuild your castle walls and smugglers den

should get a few points for that

....

or wait for plarium to add all the missing updates and upgrades from the last 2 years?

They added Level 10 Walls a long time ago -   http://prntscr.com/kq08k1

Plus a whole string of 31 new discoveries for Spirit Warden haven defenders against attacks and fireships -  http://prntscr.com/kq09jg

Spirit Wardens stop Fireships before they reach our Havens - http://prntscr.com/kq0cyt

I really intend to pass this on, but that'll be useless if we don't have at least some viable suggestions.

Crowbar said:

Gut said:

This isn't a complaint or suggestion, rather a plea from a long-term happy customer.

Wow! I didn't know that those existed.

Gut said:

I can't compete in my BH upgrade challenge because I'm maxed on everything.

Do you really have all the buildings at max and all the discoveries at level 32?! 

Gut said:

Would you be willing to show some love to your committed-completionist customers for the BH upgrade challenges?

What kind of love do you have in mind? I wouldn't expect any "love" here without giving some concrete (and viable) suggestions.

Suggestions would include the obvious stuff - UNITS - but I'm a lateral thinker.  Why not inconsequential stuff like crates of fireworks that can be passed to leadership to celebrate things, random gift bags to members of the BH come Halloween, tricks treats, fun, all stuff that keep players interested, engaged, and having fun.  If I don't personally benefit, but my team does, I'm Ok with that.

Gut said:

Suggestions would include the obvious stuff - UNITS - but I'm a lateral thinker. Why not inconsequential stuff like crates of fireworks that can be passed to leadership to celebrate things, random gift bags to members of the BH come Halloween, tricks treats, fun, all stuff that keep players interested, engaged, and having fun. If I don't personally benefit, but my team does, I'm Ok with that.

I don't understand. How do these things relate to the Upgrade tournament? Plarium would have to find an alternative way for you to gain points in those.

Crowbar said:

I really intend to pass this on, but that'll be useless if we don't have at least some viable suggestions.

The last time players hit a brick wall with development they added level 32 discoveries for all (almost) unit types and much higher levels for many buildings ... I cant see them ever doing that again

Nor can I see them adding any new upgradable units

The truth is that we have outgrown this game ... Done that, worn the teeshirt

Even if they added most of the missing updates it would only be a temporary fix for experienced players, but would make life impossible for new players who can never catch up

Your best hope is that they will add some of the latest updates .. but these can have a huge impact on the game (and presidio map) when exploited by coiners

Do we want to see Juggernauts with massive bonuses trashing Presidios and Bastions?

No?
Then the only 'harmless' updates which could be added immediately are the 2 that I listed above
Spirit Wardens and new fortifications would greatly enhance our haven defense without further unbalancing the game

terry said:

enhancing our haven defence would be a great improvement. because the way it is now the only effective defence is to keep all your defence units in your harbour. because no matter what units you have it is pointless trying to defend your haven

It could be so different, but plarium hate us pirates ...

.... which is probably why we have ZERO protection on our havens from Crew Limits (unlike other plarium games)

this means that there is no limit to attacker's army size

Crowbar said:

Gut said:

Suggestions would include the obvious stuff - UNITS - but I'm a lateral thinker. Why not inconsequential stuff like crates of fireworks that can be passed to leadership to celebrate things, random gift bags to members of the BH come Halloween, tricks treats, fun, all stuff that keep players interested, engaged, and having fun. If I don't personally benefit, but my team does, I'm Ok with that.

I don't understand. How do these things relate to the Upgrade tournament? Plarium would have to find an alternative way for you to gain points in those.

They relate in that they are free stuff.  OK, maybe I want a little to lateral there, but if you really intend to pass it along, I think Plarium (and rightfully so) would push back against big, long-term players getting free units just because they've existed for so long.  Where is the competition, the initiative to draw in new players if the older players get free units just for being old?

Let's turn it 180 then.  If player can't compete in event because of game limitations (yes, I'm maxed on everything because I had to spend my raid loot on something ), then player gets half of the BH reward?

I don't know the "right" answer here, but it is why I opened it as a plea.  I think more can be done, the what, ifs, and hows should be discussed, however.

Gut said:

I don't know the "right" answer here, but it is why I opened it as a plea.  I think more can be done, the what, ifs, and hows should be discussed, however.

That's exactly what I want us to do here.

How about they just make it possible to delete ANY building (or, better, to just drop it a level; if you do so consecutively, it get's removed when it reaches level 0)? That way, you could drop a level and rebuild it, thus participating in tournaments, very much like you could reset and reapply pearls for the Progress Push (if you're maxed on everything or simply out of pearls to apply).

Thoughts?

I have asked them for some sort of point value for having everything upgraded as well. They refused. I do not like not being able to help the BH with that tournament. You would think after all the time and effort put into completing everything we would get some sort of bonus for it. 


Gut said:

Hello Plarium,

This isn't a complaint or suggestion, rather a plea from a long-term happy customer.

I can't compete in my BH upgrade challenge because I'm maxed on everything. Would you be willing to show some love to your committed-completionist customers for the BH upgrade challenges?

I've passed it on. These are the suggestions that I've sent:

1. If all the buildings and discoveries are maxed out, give that player automatically minimum points for participation (usually 200). Compared to the price of achieving this, 200 points per BH Upgrade tournament is really nothing.

2. Let us drop any building we want by 1 level (delete it when it drops to zero). Then these players can pick one or few buildings to keep rebuilding for this purpose. Being able to downgrade would have other uses as well, and I'd like to see it implemented, regardless of this.

3. Let us build directly towards haven def bonus points. Something like "improve haven def bonus by m points for x/y/z resources (the build will last n days)".

4. Something to benefit the BH, maybe "for x/y/z resources (again, the build will last n days) add m influence points".

Thank you.

I'm not overly hopeful myself, but I figured that our chances are probably better if we give several viable options. We'll see.