typical mods jumping to help the cover up..there is PLENTY of proof who saargon really is and that he holds a paid plarium position.

but one thing you totally jumped over..all these mods and editors with all this "exp" joining the same clan, what effect does it have in game..

well here is the biggest..one clan controlling the majority of the Obelisk map, AND taking almost ALL the tourney rewards..I.E. Emeralds

1000's EVERY week.....but yet we are just supposed to believe this is a fair and even playing field. And that "mods are just here to help...."

you douche bags are hilarious.....I am going to organize and incite an emerald purchase "boycott"...and see just how long plarium will allow you nutters to keep the cheating and friendly favors going once they get hit in the wallet!

happy gaming you scum bags! may a Nightstalker bite your head off and dump a big hot steamy pile of crap down your necks!

@ Master Chief

what is sad some of these clans could have good honest mods from plarium on there team, but they seem to lack a few morals

and think one sided. im still not saying malice is innocent , but I do not have enough on them to say they are guilty either

I don't understand how you can out another with such words, we play an internet game, it's not worthy of the anger...

tell you truth I like the fact im not constantly trying to defend my self, im allowed to think out of the box, and not worry of slipping on thin ice

I don't have the answers you seek, in time I hope they are recognized and brought foreword, and the game and clans can take one huge step in a real combat area and not one that drama is the story line

Good gaming

I'll admit this..honestly..

A whole bunch of powerful people (Coiners included) coming together and dominating everything at the get go with out letting other clans to play on even terms....wasn't really a good move.

Thing is, nobody knew it was gonna end up the way it Has now.  It's just unfortunate.

This game can grow so much faster and end up geting a lot more money if things were....evenly spread out.

Instead, the "power" balance is really heavy sided.

@Starless, Im just curious how do you think things go in other games?

when these oblisk - presids - beacons and whatever else these are called?

Do you think the first ones that drop the clan or leagues with the top rank give two hoots about balance?

they want what's there, and they dominate what is there first, balance is not part of the game until the game is a little older

this is the time when the game will achieve there top players and top clans, those who can and will hold what is truly there's

you should already know this.........

Just to add something in the mix.

if people that had good exp in PL games including mods etc all joined a separate clan at the start of the game but decided to join a clan where there friends were would that be wrong? because now they would be in a strong clan

also if you have 10 good players from say soldiers inc all high ranked in SI lvl 80 for exp decided to join Nords and form a clan but where not mods

but dominated the start of the game because of there exp and coined and got all the top ems rewards through superior game play would this be also wrong and would they be getting the same amount of hassle..

Blasphemy said:

@Starless, Im just curious how do you think things go in other games?

when these oblisk - presids - beacons and whatever else these are called?

Do you think the first ones that drop the clan or leagues with the top rank give two hoots about balance?

they want what's there, and they dominate what is there first, balance is not part of the game until the game is a little older

this is the time when the game will achieve there top players and top clans, those who can and will hold what is truly there's

you should already know this.........

I can't speak for the other games of Plariums because I was not there at the start.

What " I " said was really based upon what everybody else felt.

I think to ease the balance, they may need to drop more Obelisk (in another direction)

And don't tell me what I should already "know", please. 

M.BlackStarVega said:

Blasphemy said:

@Starless, Im just curious how do you think things go in other games?

when these oblisk - presids - beacons and whatever else these are called?

Do you think the first ones that drop the clan or leagues with the top rank give two hoots about balance?

they want what's there, and they dominate what is there first, balance is not part of the game until the game is a little older

this is the time when the game will achieve there top players and top clans, those who can and will hold what is truly there's

you should already know this.........

I can't speak for the other games of Plariums because I was not there at the start.

What " I " said was really based upon what everybody else felt.

I think to ease the balance, they may need to drop more Obelisk (in another direction)

And don't tell me what I should already "know", please. 

>_<

HellRogg said:

Just to add something in the mix.

if people that had good exp in PL games including mods etc all joined a separate clan at the start of the game but decided to join a clan where there friends were would that be wrong? because now they would be in a strong clan

also if you have 10 good players from say soldiers inc all high ranked in SI lvl 80 for exp decided to join Nords and form a clan but where not mods

but dominated the start of the game because of there exp and coined and got all the top ems rewards through superior game play would this be also wrong and would they be getting the same amount of hassle..

or is it Just because the clan had a bunch of mods playing ;)
 

doesn't mater whom the players are or where they came from, seems a lot want "given balance that's equally fair"  

I have not seen this ever happen via plarium games, and I started in facebook

maybe it could be suggested in another thread for the next game they build

M.BlackStarVega said:

Blasphemy said:

@Starless, Im just curious how do you think things go in other games?

when these oblisk - presids - beacons and whatever else these are called?

Do you think the first ones that drop the clan or leagues with the top rank give two hoots about balance?

they want what's there, and they dominate what is there first, balance is not part of the game until the game is a little older

this is the time when the game will achieve there top players and top clans, those who can and will hold what is truly there's

you should already know this.........

I can't speak for the other games of Plariums because I was not there at the start.

What " I " said was really based upon what everybody else felt.

I think to ease the balance, they may need to drop more Obelisk (in another direction)

And don't tell me what I should already "know", please. 

>_

then stop preaching on about  "balance" to a new game!!!! 

These posts are increasingly hard to read. I want to clear something up:

There = a place (example: the obelisk is over there)

Their = possesion, ownership (example: they spend their own money)

They're = they are (example: they're dominating the game)

These posts are increasingly hard to read. I want to clear something up:

There = a place (example: the obelisk is over there)

Their = possesion, ownership (example: they spend their own money)

They're = they are (example: they're dominating the game)

As we have seen communication is important and equally important is clarity. I hope this helps :)

The coining issue and exp was never the issue.

The issue was ALL the mods, AND a paid plarium employee in one clan...leaves NO way to prove that advantages were not given...

no proof that they were, but no proof that they were not.

and add to that all the attempts at covering up information, and the fact that Malice has a player with almost mathematically impossible troop

numbers....it just presents a "conflict of interest" situation.

M.BlackStarVega said:

I'll admit this..honestly..

A whole bunch of powerful people (Coiners included) coming together and dominating everything at the get go with out letting other clans to play on even terms....wasn't really a good move.

Thing is, nobody knew it was gonna end up the way it Has now.  It's just unfortunate.

This game can grow so much faster and end up geting a lot more money if things were....evenly spread out.

Instead, the "power" balance is really heavy sided.

Just to be fair, that is.

LOL.

It ended up that way in Travian. It ended up that way in EVONY. It ended up that way in Torpia. It ended up that way in Grepolis. It ends up that way in each and every "king of the hill" game.

Bullies take over and then the game dies. I guess it is some sort of 'natural law'.

Maybe it is possible to make games that are both balanced end "fun to play" for a long time. I have not seen one yet.

There is even games that deliberately incite anger and hatred among players, like the "raid a lot of strongholds" quests here, like the "shady lady" in Goodgame Empire who give revards for attacking this or that neighbor, etc.

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Hmm. Guess I should not have said that where people can see my name. Just got raided by a player 70+ miles distant. That is a long way to send soldiers for loot that you can make faster yourself ;)

Not that I really mind. I am turtling these days and only let my troops out for battlefields.

But rather a nice indicator that people dont like this kind of talk about 'curbing the strong and therefore fittest players'

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