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Cheating AI - gonna quit

Cheating AI - gonna quit

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25 лют. 2022, 16:5625.02.22
25.02.22
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Cheating AI - gonna quit

I am a mild spender.  But now I am considering not to spend a penny.

The AI is cheating.  eg.

1. I was tring to hit a Player while he/she is dog fighting with 2 blues on left and there was a red in the left who was also dog fighting with 1 blue.  I was around 70 - 90 m away.

So when I started to shoot the red, (not start but going to hit the button). Suddenly all reds stopped their dog fighting and hit me ! And please note - immediately !!!! A response time = 0 and before I hit the attack button.

2. I was hiding and I checked that there was no "eye" at upper left.  Then I wanted to make an ambush.  Immediately the red Ares turned 180 to me and hit me. Response time =0 !

3. I was hiding and wanted to stun a red using Zephyr. Also I checked there was no "eye".  There was no blue around.  But the red Zephyr knew where I was and stunned me at 30m away.

4. I was using dual DL8 5 stars level 5.  90% that it would hit the red but not killed it.  Just less than 10% hit point left.  So you are making the red with "second chance life".

5. The red are always moving at high speed.  Always.  

6. The red Stasis beam always slowed you at least 200% faster.

7.  This is not 100% sure  I suspect that the red AI skill cooldown = 150% faster.  Their Zephyr can stun other much faster than mine. I had tested it. 

I do not mind you make the red AI stronger but it shall not be cheating.  Cheaing makes the human player cannot judge how to use their skills.  


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26 лют. 2022, 13:1726.02.22
26 лют. 2022, 13:20(відредаговано)
25.02.22
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And some other cheatings.

1. I was hitting a red - he was using Arc Torrent and I was hurt.  So I moved away, far away.  Then use my Carbine to shoot him.  

He found a cover and then reappeared with 2 MR !

So clever ! The Red AI can switch weapons ! And the weapon just had a range to shoot me !

2. I killed a Red AI and then he respawned.  Same mech ! Holy !

26 лют. 2022, 13:2026.02.22
25.02.22
42

The shop had 3 x 1000 A coins.  I used to purchase them but now I stop spending.  Won't spend a penny anymore.  There is no way to win vs cheating.

1 берез. 2022, 06:4201.03.22
18.03.19
36

Yup bots are way overpowered now.  Many bots have legendary implants.  My squad is 6000 pwr and I only have 1 legendary implant.  They are so hard to get.

I cannot stand it that bot will all turn on a human player and ignore my bot teammates which are right in their face.  It makes the game absolutely stupid.  If I were going to quit the game it would be because of this.

2 берез. 2022, 17:4202.03.22
25.02.22
42

Another cheating.

The snow hill map.  

I was trying to go to the top right control point.  I noticed a blue AI was dog fighting with a Red AI there. The red AI was blocked by the blue AI.  So I moved right, and then fired.  Just then the blue AI suddenly moved in front of me and blocked all my bulltets !  After I ran out of bullet, he moved back and the Red AI attacked me ! 


1.  Blue AI is too "clever" !

2. Why the Red stopped fighting and waited his bullet to recover?  The red knows the blue will give way for him to hit me?

3. The blue is in front of the red !  Most interesting the Blue cannot kill the Red?  

It is NOT a single case.

Come on ! It is 100% cheating. 




5 берез. 2022, 03:4105.03.22
10.11.19
126

 I used my Zep to stun, 0nseconds later I blew up from the unfrozen Ares. He This fodie, I just rum Eupven Is Broken.

5 берез. 2022, 03:4205.03.22
10.11.19
126

Tired of Is me Or Does This Forum Make Your Phone Vibrate? I Had Teleporting Bots, they Claimb10,000,000 downloads, but I Play Thebsame 10 bots. I'm Getting really

5 берез. 2022, 03:4505.03.22
10.11.19
126

canti make a Since ,5His game Is FuckingStupid. 

5 берез. 2022, 09:2605.03.22
25.02.22
42

Another one.


A dog fighting.   A blue AI Jugger was in middle. A red Ares.  I was behind the Jugger.  A dog fighting.  

My Zep stunned the Ares and I moved right as the Blue blocked my billetes.  Then the Blue moved right to block my bullet. 

Ok.  I moved left then.  The blue Jugger moved left!

OK. I move right again.  Then the blue Jugger moved right.  

I moved left again, then the blue moved left.  

Time was up.  The Ares unfrozen.  Then the Jugger moved away and let the Ares to erase me !



FlooCommunity Manager
16 берез. 2022, 13:1216.03.22
04.02.22
641

Allok, thank you very much for your thorough descriptions of the bots' activity you've been witnessing. I am forwarding your feedback to the game developers.

16 берез. 2022, 15:4516.03.22
07.12.21
136
Floo

Allok, thank you very much for your thorough descriptions of the bots' activity you've been witnessing. I am forwarding your feedback to the game developers.

The community has been talking about this since the beginning holy crap.

18 берез. 2022, 09:4118.03.22
18 берез. 2022, 09:41(відредаговано)
08.08.20
106
Bbmech

The community has been talking about this since the beginning holy crap.

And they aren't liikely to change it, as the ai is one of the many paywalls in the game - handicapping the f2p and low dollar players to ensure victory for p2w players. Plarium knows p2w won't stay to lose, which negates them from further spending potential. They also know what we all know: p2w doesn't make you good. Of course, if you're a bad OP player and have crackshot ai versus a good (but weaker) free player with an incredibly bad ai team throwing the match, that free player isn't likely to win - the p2w feels good about their purchases, and stays in game and buying. 

18 берез. 2022, 20:4618.03.22
07.12.21
136
Floo

Allok, thank you very much for your thorough descriptions of the bots' activity you've been witnessing. I am forwarding your feedback to the game developers.

Is it gonna be fixed ever?

23 берез. 2022, 14:2423.03.22
10.11.19
126

Nothing better than playing a PVP game with all AI bots on both sides

23 берез. 2022, 16:4523.03.22
07.12.21
136
Bbmech

Is it gonna be fixed ever?

Lack of response really telling. As it always is. Never good news when they don't respond to follow up questions. The bots are intended to have cheating abilities and be rigged, aren't they?

26 берез. 2022, 06:3426.03.22
25.02.22
42

The game has 2 urgent and important issues to fix.

1. Make the bots more "human" - 

> at least 1 second response time. This is normal human response time, 0.5 second in seeing an object, and another 0.5 second for response.  Otherwise a humna player does not need skill as any ambush is useless now.

> Bots shall fight the mech in the front, not all bots suddenly turn their target to human.

> aiming shall be correct to an accuracy, say a random with an average 60%.  Otherwise you 'd better all bots with best sniper and best long arm 16.  Then no one would play anymore.

2. Increase the RM cool down time to > 45 seconds. Or make the minimum range to 150.  Yes.  I mean 300%.  Or just make the RM 200% more powerful then I can withdraw the battle whenever I see a RM.

Actually now, a player knows he/she can win a battle easily with 1 bot/RM.  A RM bot shall be a supporting team mate, not the chief attacker.





FlooCommunity Manager
29 берез. 2022, 15:1729.03.22
04.02.22
641
Bbmech

Lack of response really telling. As it always is. Never good news when they don't respond to follow up questions. The bots are intended to have cheating abilities and be rigged, aren't they?

No, the bots have never been intentionally given cheating abilities. However, the AI can be prone to unexpected behavior. That is why we forward all player's feedback, just like I did with Allok's detailed observations, to the developers for analysis and for taking action. 

30 берез. 2022, 08:2630.03.22
29.03.22
4

Today I was playing MECH ARENA , a match started and I and my other teamates,we just froze and then we saw a player. He was hacking and even if his weapons were reloading he was killing us.



please fix this issue

 

30 берез. 2022, 08:3130.03.22
29.03.22
4

MY Brother was playing and he is saying that some kind of hacker that was coutinusly melee dashing with killshot


please ban this player and fix the issue

3 квіт. 2022, 23:4703.04.22
14.09.20
134

There  are  many  ways  that  the  ai  cheat.

the  most  anoying  is  abilities  that  it  has  that  you  dont.  Yes,  i  get  frozen  at  point  blank  range  by  the  energy  thing  from  gaurdian  when  i  have  killshot  and  cant  do  damage,  but  the  kill  shot  can  usually  do  damage  no  matter  what.  Basically,  if  im  playing  with  a  player,  it  might  deactivate  the  ability  if  far  enough  away,  but  a  bot  is  magic.  

the  bots  are  just  not  fair

9 квіт. 2022, 06:5809.04.22
08.04.22
2


I cannot stand it that bot will all turn on a human player and ignore my bot teammates which are right in their face.  It makes the game absolutely stupid.  If I were going to quit the game it would be because of this.

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