There already a section on this? My apologies if there is. How does the system work ? Based off my observations, it seems purely based on exp level. Does Division rank, power level, or win/lose record matter ?
I think basing off power level would be a great way to ease the mind of those that scream "P2W".
It is off of team squad power. So for example:
This is why some players perceive the matches as being unfair because they are looking at individual strength instead of team strength.
It is off of team squad power. So for example:
This is why some players perceive the matches as being unfair because they are looking at individual strength instead of team strength.
There is no way however for a human to verify the above statement as you can not see what the overall squad power of a team is. You are only able to see what the other human players are at.
Having a game where it is dominated by AI mechs give one the feeling that the deck is stacked against you... so Often it does feel as though your AI rushes out in the open begging to be taken out . Sort of like this match where it felt like I was behind the 8 ball the entire match.
as the only human in the match I also have to winder why MM could not find one single human for the other team.
There is no way however for a human to verify the above statement as you can not see what the overall squad power of a team is. You are only able to see what the other human players are at.
Having a game where it is dominated by AI mechs give one the feeling that the deck is stacked against you... so Often it does feel as though your AI rushes out in the open begging to be taken out . Sort of like this match where it felt like I was behind the 8 ball the entire match.
as the only human in the match I also have to winder why MM could not find one single human for the other team.
During the BETA of the game Individual Squad Power was shown on the loading screen so you knew what you were up against. It has since been removed but there are still some who wish to see it brough back.
Rescue, does the matchmaking algorithm consider anything, whatsoever, other than squad power (e.g. division, experience, mech ?) If not, doesn't that mean players can manipulate opponent difficulty just by reducing number of mechs they have active in hangar? E.g. if I have 5 mechs loaded, normally 2500 squad power, but remove 4, leaving my best mech at rank 6, I may have 600 squad power which is the same as a new player. Does that mean I take on same opponents as new players even though I would decimate them?
Rescue, does the matchmaking algorithm consider anything, whatsoever, other than squad power (e.g. division, experience, mech ?) If not, doesn't that mean players can manipulate opponent difficulty just by reducing number of mechs they have active in hangar? E.g. if I have 5 mechs loaded, normally 2500 squad power, but remove 4, leaving my best mech at rank 6, I may have 600 squad power which is the same as a new player. Does that mean I take on same opponents as new players even though I would decimate them?
As it was last expalined to me Squad Power plays the largest factor. However, I don't know what other inputs are used or have been added to establish a match, ie Win-Rate, Division rank, Tournament Placement, Progression path, etc.
There were players who did what you stated above but going in with 3 mechs to artificially lower their SP. My understanding is this was addressed in the BETA but again not sure how they addressed it as it no longer seems to be an issue players bring up.
Rescue, I tested the theory and removed all but 2 mechs, leaving only 1000 squad power [CPC]. However, removing mechs from my squad did not reduce AI rank and difficulty whatsoever. I was matched against all AI and my 2 rank 5 mechs with rank 5 weapons were quickly decimated by equally ranked mechs. On my 1000 SP baby account, AI is usually rank 3 or lower. Accordingly, squad power has apparently little to no effect on matchmaking from what I can tell. Can you please reach out to the developers and provide the actual mechanics used for matchmaking with AI and real players?
Edit: I loaded up another match with my best 5 line up, 2600 SP all rank 5 except one. I was matched against all AI and the AI was a cake walk. Some were rank 3 with rank 3 weapons. Something is seriously flawed!
Rescue, I tested the theory and removed all but 2 mechs, leaving only 1000 squad power [CPC]. However, removing mechs from my squad did not reduce AI rank and difficulty whatsoever. I was matched against all AI and my 2 rank 5 mechs with rank 5 weapons were quickly decimated by equally ranked mechs. On my 1000 SP baby account, AI is usually rank 3 or lower. Accordingly, squad power has apparently little to no effect on matchmaking from what I can tell. Can you please reach out to the developers and provide the actual mechanics used for matchmaking with AI and real players?
Edit: I loaded up another match with my best 5 line up, 2600 SP all rank 5 except one. I was matched against all AI and the AI was a cake walk. Some were rank 3 with rank 3 weapons. Something is seriously flawed!
I'll ask but it is kind of like asking for the launch codes for nuclear weapons. Will see what I get from it.
Thank you for the support Rescue. I understand the concern and the analogy, but until players actually understand the mechanics, then there will always be complaints and confusion.
I seem to be waiting for over a minute and not getting into an arena in order to pound other mech. Is this a game issue or just matchmaking problems?
I seem to be waiting for over a minute and not getting into an arena in order to pound other mech. Is this a game issue or just matchmaking problems?
Hello, Pilot! It's hard to say until we have a look. Please contact our Support team on this matter. Here is the link for you -> https://plrm.me/arena_support Our agents will be happy to help. Good luck!
I'll ask but it is kind of like asking for the launch codes for nuclear weapons. Will see what I get from it.
Hi Rescue, Alina, have we learned anything new yet from developers regarding the match making algorithm/mechanics?
Sorry Bro...I know it is a highly discussed issue in the moderator section on Discrod and we forward every valid critique and suggestion but no response on how MM exactly works other than what has previously been discussed.
That's a real shame Rescue. It's definitely not team squad power based alone. If it is, it's most certainly broken.
I tested some settings last night and it is absolutely possible to manipulate the level of the opposing team.
There are also different algorithms for each game mode.
I tested some settings last night and it is absolutely possible to manipulate the level of the opposing team.
There are also different algorithms for each game mode.
What settings did you test? What insights on algorithm did you take away?
What settings did you test? What insights on algorithm did you take away?
I really want to post all the details but I want to see if anything is addressed in the next patch before I go into what I have notice.
I agree different algorithms are used for the different modes. Tournament gets the most difficult algorithm applied becuase so many players are trying to get those top prizes... it is in tournamnet mode where you will see the most schewed matchmaking with players of 1.5k often put up against players of well over 3k.
though this week it has leveled out so its possible they ( devs behind these algorithms ) realized they needed to add more balance because players were noticing whales getting very preferrential matchmaking.
I want things to be cheaper bruh
