That's true, Pilot! 

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It neglects the nature of the complaint, hence why I've mocked it.

You all didnt even finish the event and your saying that its P2W I encountered the same but its OPTIONAL.

PS:Try to finish the event Before you talk 😏

*** Your post has been edited for violating the forums rules for langauge *** ~ Rescue

Sounds like unreleasitic is more inconvenient.  

Can you elaborate on what exactly makes it unrealistic?  Is it time, activity level, participation, resources?  What exactly makes you feel like it is attainable but also like you would have to reach the moon to attain it?

Are you kidding? It's the resources. The fact that I'd have to add a whole 2 stars to guardian to complete the event. Hundreds of thousands of credits. Hundreds of blueprints. And thousands of a-coins. All of that AT MINIMUM! I'd have to obtain that all in 3 days. Or if I somehow had the resources saved up, they'd all have to go to guardian, at the expense of other mech upgrades, leaving them all far behind guardian.

How is this even a question? How can that be in any way realistic? "More like inconvenient"? Give me a break.

Honestly, it doesn't really matter if it's money or cheating, as a whale myself in any game I take a liking to really, the capacity is more often than not tantamount to the same unbalanced, game ruining bs...

If there were some form of handicap, better made matching filter, or some such, I'd say there's more than a small difference..

But in this game, with such a limited scope and scale to the actual game itself in its content, few hundred USD, a week of playing, and you have weapons/mechs that have outright unfair mechanics.. 

IE any form of homing weapon, can even fire some of the devastating, unbalanced things over or around obstacles we should not be able to, and they do obscene damage, even at low ranks.. 

One can wipe out numerous opponents between reloads with just a -single- weapon equipped, and they can do it from impossible positions or ridiculous distances... 

Also the mech differences are vastly unbalanced.. No one starting out a couple days is gonna handle a even half fully  upgraded -tiny- little lancer... See em do it all the time, abusing it's jump or similar with a single, extremely powerful weapon, and never once get themselves exposed for any possible retaliation.. Especially if they're an organized team.

To summarize, cheaters are definitely an issue in this game, but so is how vast the difference between a p2w and f2p/spent a little $ people.

Have you ever peeped the review archives fully? Do so some time if know how, it'll shock you, when something becomes obvious about it's rating... If you don't know how to, I'm not saying, I don't encourage such behaviors, only did so myself because I had a sneaking suspicion about a few things.

Even though I'm a whale, I don't play unfair myself unless I'm playing very serious for whatever reason,  for the reason stated below in last two paragraphs of this post ... 

I'm not some unskilled youngling gamer, it may sound arrogant, but I got skills at any game I pick up, and I know I do..Just as it is for many of you who will read this...

Cheating is easy to stop... temporarily, before they find another way to be unskilled posers doing so solely because of just that: lack of skill... So if anything.. I more pity the brats, personally.Both the p2w who abuse that power, and the cheaters, because both are the above: unskilled wannabes.. 

Afterthought: I agree with one thing you posted 1000%... I'm an old man at 75.. Time is far beyond priceless.. It appears infinite, but is actually very much so finite... A player can spend all that time to barely be able to compete with what they gained in a day or two, and often only to quit out of boredom for doing it not long after.. So, in no way is it balanced..
(That was well said, and undeniable, that's why I edited this in.)

2021-10-10, Pay to Win, Fake! 

Me “Wolfi” is a common user. I spend some money in this game to get a good basic position to increases from there! 

I play “War Robot” for over 2 years. So, I know this kind of game well! I am near to left that games for the same reason I left “War Robot” before: “I do not want to be the target for the wallet-warriors”!

Look at the current running tournament! Bounty is 1200 a-coins 50000 c-coins and 14 golden coins!

1. Position with “10.500 Points” is a player who has low basic Robots! For sure are "fake players"!

2. Position to 10.100 Points to position 7 with 5200 points. All of them are fakes, or have powerful Mech’s that, depending on the number of games he did play, can only when to pay for, etc.! Definitive the "Pay to Win - Wallet Warrior"!

I as a common player earn for 1 tournament Match 80- to 280 Points. You play and win a match not alone! To get more than 200-250 points you need to do it well and have the luck to be in a good team! 

Chance 1:10 to get > 250 Points! The average is 150 Points! 10000/150=66! To get this position I have to play 40-60 tournament Matches. Tournament Tickets a be limited!

That means these "Wallet Warriors" who pay a lot for powerful Mech's pay also for tournament tickets.

That means for all common players it is nearly impossible to compensate for that, what the wallet-warrior pay for! Because they catch all bounty and get stronger...!

The Dev. says there is an algorithm that manages that the player teams are more and less equal. 

This tournament today is proof that this is NOT True!

To the developer of this game:

Make a league only for that “Pay to Win wallet-warrior” in which he can shot with money to fill your pocket.

Change your “algorithm ” to “fair play”!!

Kick the "Faker" out of this game!!!!

Or you can play your game alone...!

RE HACKERS. We need to know what cheater behavior looks like if you want me to report it. You are the game manufacturer, show us the cheats so we can spot them. I think you all care about your player base enough to do that.  

Mostly, I am getting tired of being stomped 17-4 in match ups. I dont know if it is the player cheating or your crappy ass match making system putting me up against a team or players with indivisual mechs with 300+ power on me. I dont care about the P2W (which it definitely is, no matter how hard you scream at the players) if the matches are remotely even. Which as I play more and more even matches happen less and less. 

RE P2W  Strait up bold faced lie on your argument of P2W. The mission this week is for disc launchers, I dont have them, I can't buy them with in game currency. I have to spend 99(CAD) in order to have them to participate in your "gaME EveNTs THaT reWArD ACtiVE PlaYErS" I have to pay real money. I find your selfrightous dismissal of the issue ignorant toward your player base. Your belief that it is not P2W is true, as  just proven it is Pay to Participate in the events that reward active players.

I like your game, I dont like being gaslit by the makers.

Hacking the coins thats what they do now. Plus the fact they even hack the blueprints just to win the game. Seriously???? These guys really have to go so low just to prove that are better skilled in playing.

Just came here to add to this once again because of recent events. It's really cool to be met with denial the game is pay to win from a moderator (and I mean really intense denial) only to have a weapon added to the game, locked behind luck or money, and then resources be restricted for those who weren't lucky enough or aren't willing to part with $70 for this game. The week's 300 a-coins to be exact, or the really scarce resource that free players already struggle to get. In an event that's one of the few opportunities for pocket change players to get cheap resources. And now paying players have yet another opportunity to obtain the weapon while it's not on the progress path. This time in a "deal" combined with a mech on which the weapon punches above it's weight. But people who skipped paying $70 for the weapon itself and bought this instead still don't get the 300 a-coins.

Yeah the game isn't pay to win. It's not at all. Pay to win is when a game indefinitely locks progress/ items behind a paywall, or some BS like that. Not when paying players literally have an advantage in matches. Not when the game restricts resources to frustrate players into paying. Not when the alternative to paying is unreasonable grind. It's ONLY when progress/ items are indefinitely locked behind a paywall, disregarding this form of monetization hardly exists in video games if at all. By the way could someone possibly name a game that does that?

  What Plarium forgets is it needs FTP players as much as whales. Without a player base they won't have a game and without that... well their greed won't have a source of income. 

I have seen AAA games fail for the same reason. The games that flourish Are the ones that strike a balance between free to play and p2w. Be more generous to your player base gets you more room to move and develop.

Plarium has yet to balance f2p and p2p, but is already being as aggressive with monetization as pixonic. They may argue the game isn't p2w by some absurd definition that doesn't even apply to many games that are infamous for being p2w. And their pr team will tell them to throw around phrases like "f2p friendly" in regards to pilots. And they will tell us they're working on matchmaking. But when I inquire further about that I never get answers. Not even a peep from anyone representing mech arena. I'm really sick of it. I came back after quitting because plarium did a matchmaking test. Not a thing since then. I wish I could get through to the dev team. All I want is freaking answers. I'm so done with the PR and the silence.

trying to talk sense into rescue is a waste of time guys. don't even need to guess as to why because it's blatantly obvious

i believe it was a post on this forum that linked to a youtube video. it can take a year plus to max 1 mech/weapon set if that's all you level. realisticly it would take a non paying player years to get a strong hangar and be able to compete with whales. the game is very much p2w 

Also, a couple points addressing this directly.

"It also ignores that you can be paying for something that you would otherwise get for free"

-This is an non-argument on the ground that, you've play the game right? You understand how badly the game Starves you for resources from the word go? 

https://mech-arena-robot-showdown.fandom.com/wiki/Mechs

Its litearlly on the wiki, just how prohibitivly expensive upgrading ANYTHING in this game is.

A SINGLE level upgrade past 5* consumes the entire amount of CREDITS the game will EVER let you earn in a single day. Let alone the MASSIVE amount of blue prints you need to even START the upgrade. HOWEVER, if you throw down money? MONTHS of Works get IMMIDEATLY skipped. 

You have to appricate just how disgusting that is,

That a person has to waste MONTHS, of saving credits, A-coins, and Blueprints.

While someone else takes a hit to their credit card for $500's and have a barely maxed out Mech in less than a day. 

"that you would otherwise get for free"

There NOTHING free about leveling up your mechs, It requires so much time, and dedication, and if you a REAL f2p player? you need to force yourself through Loss after loss, because the game WANTS you to get frustrated and spend money out of anger.

"A better definition of P2W,  is that there is a point where you can't progress any further without spending real world money."

No, this is an absolutly terrible definition.

This model is used by tons of F2P mmos, and it works for them, and doesn't negativly effect the gameplay for players who can't, or don't want to spend money. 

The Diffrence here is, Paying money for SERIOUS combat boost HURTS the expereince of other players. I player who spends $1000 to max out the best bots in the game, is basically GARENTEED the power to COMPLETELY, AND UTTERLY, Destroy every single F2P player they EVER come in contact with. 

Now, heres a REALLY HARD REALITY.

There is a point, in the game. in which, because P2W players become SO ABUNDANT, that winning games becomes a practical impossibility. 

Because of how badly the game Trottles you earning credits and blueprints per day, there comes a point where it becomes litearlly impossible to keep up with paying players. 

where I am in the game, I spend literally all mycredits that I can earn in a day, on SINGLE level ups for my weapons and mechs. EVEN WITH EVENTS ACTIVE AND CLAIMING ALL ME CHESTS. 

It is impossible to compete with P2W players who have near maxed out hangers.

Players who's hangers can instantly kill F2P players bots in 2-3 seconds, where it takes more than 2-3 Reloads to kill their own bots. 

"I don't really see this as the case except for maybe tournament tokens so spending money is optional as all mechs and weapons can be unlocked eventually."

So... have you forgetten that tournys are litearlly THEE source of free A-coins?

For F2P players, its the only way to earn consistant A-coins for Rank upgrades.

"unlocked eventually"

yeah, Free players will unlock everything years after the game dies from being completely defunct,

The time, credits, and blueprints it takes to get to that point are so... so far off that the game will litearlly DIE because the player base quits, before ANY free player could build a hanger that works competitivly.

Spending money is the only, and I mean they ONLY way, to keep winning in the long run. 

Because you are ALWAYS going to be chasing the power spikes that people spending money on the game creates.

Unless you are the type of person who, for some reason. LOVES to lose 4/5 games they play in Master Division.

Mate I am here to say bravo. Everything you have posted is absolutely true and any argument to the contrary is utter simping BS. 

I live this game but feel like they will never listen. 

Here is an example even from a match I just played.

Why on earth am I even being matching with this player?

He has double me XP, 500 Points over my Squad Power.

His KillShot could Instantly kill My Tanks with is special attack.

He's Using LootBox weapons that I did not have GARENTEED access to without spending ATLEAST 120$ on LootBoxes.

AND,

This isn't a rare event.

I am constantly, and I mean CONSTANYLY being matching with this type os P2W whale.

The match making system is litearlly using me as fodder to be killed by these paying players.

Its bad, and the admins telling the community other wise is an utterly morally bankrupt lie. 

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"except they are optional"

Here's a reality,

Whats the diffrence between:

The Free2Play player who is Drip Fed credits and A-coins; who after 100 hours of game time, and who has completed all the events, wasting those precious resources that take forever to earn.

vs.

The P2W player who can completely bypass Trournment Pass limits, because they can afford all the Golden Tickets. The Pay2Player who can outright buy 5-6 Star items stright out of the shop, out of the gate. Where some of these workshop items arn't even AVALIBLE to F2P players?

WIN RATIO, YOU KNOW, THE CRUTIAL PART OF BEING PAY2WIN?

The core, fundimental, and critcal reason why the game is utterly pay to win,

Is that the F2P player will have to force themselves through HUNDREDS, of not THOUSANDS of losses. Just to be on Part with someone who threw down Hundreds of dollars to immediatly max out their hangers. 

And the worse part about it? The match making systems will FORCE these players to play in the same rank as each other. The for that Free2Play player, who WANTS to win agaist whales? Well, he has to become a whale himself, or pray that the MatchMaking system puts them against other players with the same hanger power. 

You say there is nothing exclsive, *That is a Lie, Carbine 10's are litearlly selling right now, cash only*

Having a higher win ratio is something you can pretty much buy, 

What is a person, who barely jsut purchased a Guardian and a Set of Missle Racks, suppose to do against a Maxed out Zepher with Maxed out Arc Casters? That can take your health from 100 to 0 in under 3 seconds?

Calling purchases in the game "Optional" is just calling winning "Optional", yeah, Is optional, but its absolutly, 100% P2W and completely unfair, because of how poorly designed the match making system is.