I also got banned in the forum for spamming, probably because of my excessively long comments. Now I got lifted after troubleshooting in the Support Page. First of all, I thank the support team for the immediate upliftment of my ban

Now coming to your post, sometimes at off-peak hours when most human players are absent, you'll be paired against bots (which would be mostly set based on my SP). It has a lot of advantages (I use them to get my dailys done) In rare cases I'll be matched in an environment where I'll be the only human in the game and I find it the most 'peaceful'. But nowadays bots are trained by some really cool AI, and they play much cleverly. 

I think he means he wants to wait 15 seconds, not 5 to get more humans. 5 seconds dont give humans much chances to join, its like if system wants no humans on purpose

I get stuck in this loop of the game only wanting to give me a match against 1 other real player and 4 bots on each side. I've gotten so tired of it that I've began leaving every match as fast as I can if it's only me and bots against 1 player and bots, I'll instantly start another match only to get the same outcome then repeat getting the same outcome of me and bots against a player and bots, 6x or more (until it you get penalized for building up too many left matches) in a short time all with 1 real player that could have all been in the same match together. A separate lobby to queue up in and wait for it to fill with all players would be nice. There's obviously enough players on, just not enough time or way to group everyone together especially when matchmaking favors giving ai bot matches. I'd rather lose 10 matches in a row to casual players or whales than I would to ai bots, especially this games ai bots.

ive been moaning for the same thing since i joined the forum, but looks like its not even considered at any level. 

To say more i think there is no even "i will pass it.on to the team" message. People like ηιgнт ƒυяу® seems to be extremely happy to play with bots, i assume SP dropping as well. So i think this idea does not even reach development team. 

From conspiracy point of view of rigged matches that is more or less the only way to ensure you lose. So maybe everyone knows about it but for some reason it will hurt their core idiology. SP dropping though and making 90% win rate for some reason is fine for their core belief. 

Adding extra lobby for only human matches and 2 minute wait times instead of 15 seconds is a big NO GO.

I agree it would be nice to have an option to wait longer if one so desires, but there is another way short term - do team matches. I find that inviting one or two people to a game greatly increases my chances of meeting more human opponents.

i agree that it increases chances, i assume algorythm is "not allowed" to oppose humans with bots so it must be same amount of humans on the enemy team. 

But what to do if i dont have friends available right now.. or most of the time.. For hangar showdown its even more stupid, but its separate subject.. 

it just takes 90% of fun from the game by giving you bots, for absolutely no reason that would be obvious to me.. are their servers under less load if we play with bots? Unlikely.. as if these humans dont fight against you then they are fighting other games vs bots.. so what is the benefit of screwing our experience? :sad cry:

"i assume algorythm is "not allowed" to oppose humans with bots"

No sometimes (rarely) we'll get an all-bot enemy lobby. My guess is that it tries to be fair to opposing human players, so it tries to avoid having a different number of human players in each team. If it can't find a suitable set of humans it might give you just bots.

"what to do if i dont have friends available right now.. or most of the time"

Agreed this is hard, but again you can increase your chances - actively invite people who you've played against in your preferred playing time. Build up that pool. I myself neglect this most times, but I shouldn't :-).

That's exactly what I'm saying

It would be much easier for me to find people to friend and have them join matches with me if the matchmaking algorithm actually prioritized pairing me up with real people in the first place.

This is a problem for plarium to fix. Not one that players should just be expected to work around.

Yeah I understand without ai bots they won't have total control over our match outcomes like they do now so no way they'll change. And I'm also pretty sure the people like ηιgнт ƒυяу® are only here to ban people and give  the runaround.

"if the matchmaking algorithm actually prioritized pairing me up with real people in the first place"

If you're not getting paired up with real people, I don't know how normal that is. I get paired with people frequently. In general people wouldn't be complaining about mismatched hangars so much not getting human players at all was a very frequent problem for everyone. Just guessing but it might have something to do with your geo or time of play.

"Not one that players should just be expected to work around."

Friending people who show up in your games when you normally play is not a workaround. It's common sense. Wouldn't you do that anyway, irrespective of other problems in the game being fixed? 

I recall someone saying in another thread (can't remember if it was Papa or someone else) that they dislike 1v1 games so much that they just quit those games. I'd suggest playing it normally and friending those people. That's how you build your pool.

Getting real players in a match depends on your location and the time you play and the chance to get a pvp can be increased by inviting 2-3 players. I struggle to get a hangar showdown, but after using a VPN to places where more people play the game, I get matches more frequently or even a 2v2 which is very scarce to me. Also, increasing the matchmaking time would make the process stressfull. 

No you're not getting it. Doesn't matter what time or what my geo is. The matchmaker has more time to make matches already before the time limit is up. I wasn't asking you to increase the time limit this time! I was complaining that a match could be made before the time limit is up. 30 seconds is the time limit on the matchmaker. I got these matches made in 5-8 seconds.

I just want the matchmaker to use as much of the time limit as it needs to so it can match me with real humans and not bots

It's not like I waited a full 30 seconds and had bots in the match. I waited 5 seconds and the match was 80% bots.

How does that have anything to do with geo or time of day?

development team really struggles with high waiting times in life, it gives them too much stress.. thats why nothing gets better, they cant spend much time coding :) its too stressful :)

Would be nice to have the info on the time and location where pvp is found like yous do so we could download and use a 3rd party system to run in the background stressing our mobile device even further than the game already does to get pvp matches in 30 seconds or less.

I want to know how letting the matchmaking search take the full stated time limit (or even longer) increases stress on the server. Does that not create more instances since there's a bunch more matches with few humans and lots of bots instead of fewer instances with all humans. And then the server needs to operate all the bots.

Can somebody make it make sense how maximizing the amount of humans in a match doesn't decrease server load?

I agree, I'd wait longer for humans, while staying under the 30 second limit. But you'll probably always wait 30 seconds and still not get all hunan, but I could wait a little longer if it became 2 v 2 or 3 v 3 humans.

yesterday i had 5v5 humans two times in tournament deathmatch/control point and it felt so unusual :)

And look at the numbers, 7 7 and im last :) or 1 2 and im in the middle :)) 

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Had a ffa tournament with all players and the gameplay felt very odd like everyone was being controlled. The kill numbers from everyone was weird.

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