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How to fix matchmaking

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19 лип. 2023, 20:5319.07.23
08.07.22
266

How to fix matchmaking

Have the highest mech power of me (or any other players) go up against other people with the same power level of their best mech. If that doesn't work then rework the power level of each item. At the moment surge has the same power level as Brickhouse and that's dumb.

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CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
20 лип. 2023, 14:1020.07.23
10.02.23
2031

Hello! Thanks a lot for your suggestion, we really appreciate your enthusiasm! Our developers are actively working on the Matchmaking system right now. This subject is one of the primary and most discussed inside our team, so hopefully the improvements will appear soon!

20 лип. 2023, 17:5220.07.23
08.07.22
266

Hopefully.

21 лип. 2023, 21:1021.07.23
26.09.22
139
CrystalDrew

Hello! Thanks a lot for your suggestion, we really appreciate your enthusiasm! Our developers are actively working on the Matchmaking system right now. This subject is one of the primary and most discussed inside our team, so hopefully the improvements will appear soon!

Define soon. Because it's been the same lip service for a year now...

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
31 лип. 2023, 11:2531.07.23
10.02.23
2031
wrecker

Define soon. Because it's been the same lip service for a year now...

Keep an eye on the news and you won't miss any Updates 😉

31 лип. 2023, 20:1531.07.23
08.12.22
124

https://prnt.sc/uO3oxr1hR_i-

This is the king of low hangar abuse, and like him so many, many others do. and they don't spend anything .. because by always winning the tournaments they earn with this trick of incompetent little children.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
1 серп. 2023, 12:5101.08.23
10.02.23
2031
Scoppiato

https://prnt.sc/uO3oxr1hR_i-

This is the king of low hangar abuse, and like him so many, many others do. and they don't spend anything .. because by always winning the tournaments they earn with this trick of incompetent little children.

This player will be penalized after using Matchmaking abuse. We are working on the measurement to prevent using this practice in Mech Arena!

2 серп. 2023, 18:0502.08.23
06.07.23
23
CrystalDrew

Keep an eye on the news and you won't miss any Updates 😉

You mean the news that only promotes what you're selling in the shop 🤔🤦‍♂️ there's been no improvements in matchmaking for well over a year. 

You've also made no effort to prevent sp dropping which has been a major issue for nearly 8 months now. All I've seen is that you're 'working' on it. That's an obvious lie... 

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
3 серп. 2023, 14:4603.08.23
10.02.23
2031
SubZero

You mean the news that only promotes what you're selling in the shop 🤔🤦‍♂️ there's been no improvements in matchmaking for well over a year. 

You've also made no effort to prevent sp dropping which has been a major issue for nearly 8 months now. All I've seen is that you're 'working' on it. That's an obvious lie... 

We are still developing prevention for SP-dropping abuse. Currently, the SP droppers are being penalized after lowering their Hangar. More advanced protection is expected in the future

3 серп. 2023, 17:3103.08.23
3 серп. 2023, 17:32(відредаговано)
06.07.23
23
CrystalDrew

We are still developing prevention for SP-dropping abuse. Currently, the SP droppers are being penalized after lowering their Hangar. More advanced protection is expected in the future

SP droppers aren't currently being penalized 🤦‍♂️ The devs are continuing to lie to the players. Considering they're habitual liars on nearly every issue, they should have went into politics instead of programming, which they've proven they're incapable of doing....

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
4 серп. 2023, 14:0004.08.23
10.02.23
2031
SubZero

SP droppers aren't currently being penalized 🤦‍♂️ The devs are continuing to lie to the players. Considering they're habitual liars on nearly every issue, they should have went into politics instead of programming, which they've proven they're incapable of doing....

I repeat I represent the official statements of our team, there are no lies. Once again, it's up to you whether to question my words or not, but right now, you keep spreading misinformation about us here without any facts while I use the official information only.

4 серп. 2023, 15:4804.08.23
08.07.22
266

I have an idea to fix SP dropping.

Have the highest mech power of me (or any other players) go up against other people with the same power level of their best mech. If that doesn't work then rework the power level of each item. At the moment surge has the same power level as Brickhouse and that's dumb.

4 серп. 2023, 17:5504.08.23
06.07.23
23
CrystalDrew

I repeat I represent the official statements of our team, there are no lies. Once again, it's up to you whether to question my words or not, but right now, you keep spreading misinformation about us here without any facts while I use the official information only.

Just because they're 'official' statements doesn't mean they aren't lies, which they clearly are. I'm spreading no misinformation. I actually play the game and have experienced it firsthand, as early as a few minutes ago! Along with my experience, there are thousands of complaints and associated screenshots, mostly posted in your official Discord server, proving that I am speaking facts. Head on over there and actually look...

Here are screenshots (taken after your response) of an sp dropper I encountered during tourney which proves I speak facts and directly refutes the 'official' information....


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4 серп. 2023, 17:5904.08.23
4 серп. 2023, 18:01(відредаговано)
06.07.23
23
CrystalDrew

I repeat I represent the official statements of our team, there are no lies. Once again, it's up to you whether to question my words or not, but right now, you keep spreading misinformation about us here without any facts while I use the official information only.

When this player gets back online and reverts back to his sp dropped hangar, I'll post a screenshot of that as well that will correlate with his 'top mech' which he uses to score the high number of kills for ffa in my other screenshot...

Anything I say can be backed up with proof and facts...

4 серп. 2023, 19:0804.08.23
06.07.23
23
CrystalDrew

I repeat I represent the official statements of our team, there are no lies. Once again, it's up to you whether to question my words or not, but right now, you keep spreading misinformation about us here without any facts while I use the official information only.

Another one. Impossible to get that many kills and consistent high points without sp dropping which players are still able to do. I have facts and proof for days to refute the 'official' statement...

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5 серп. 2023, 11:3105.08.23
30.03.23
1

The best solution for tournaments would be something like this: 

At the start of each heat select a hanger you want to enter with for that heat. The selected hanger can not be changed.

Sort players in groups according to hanger strength. Put players with unbalanced hangers (1 good mech) together in the same group. 

You could even create awards in different categories, according to hanger strength. This would reward higher level playing.

I guess it's also easier to create bots with the correct strength/ai if players are more evenly matched together. 

It might even be a good idea to calculate hanger strength from the highest ranking mech times 5, this would create more balanced hangers and rewards players for leveling up there entire hanger.

To be clear, don't hate players that "abuse" flaws in the system, it is the systems fault that they are able to do so.

5 серп. 2023, 14:2205.08.23
26.09.22
139
CrystalDrew

I repeat I represent the official statements of our team, there are no lies. Once again, it's up to you whether to question my words or not, but right now, you keep spreading misinformation about us here without any facts while I use the official information only.

I can confirm what subzero said. SP dropping still works and there's no penalties associated with it (I wasn't penalized). I just tested it out and nothing of what the devs said is true. 

For those of you wondering, I don't normally play like this and was only testing.


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5 серп. 2023, 14:3405.08.23
5 серп. 2023, 14:37(відредаговано)
26.09.22
139
Chris

The best solution for tournaments would be something like this: 

At the start of each heat select a hanger you want to enter with for that heat. The selected hanger can not be changed.

Sort players in groups according to hanger strength. Put players with unbalanced hangers (1 good mech) together in the same group. 

You could even create awards in different categories, according to hanger strength. This would reward higher level playing.

I guess it's also easier to create bots with the correct strength/ai if players are more evenly matched together. 

It might even be a good idea to calculate hanger strength from the highest ranking mech times 5, this would create more balanced hangers and rewards players for leveling up there entire hanger.

To be clear, don't hate players that "abuse" flaws in the system, it is the systems fault that they are able to do so.

They just want to make money; not make the game balanced. I submitted a ticket about SP dropping multiple times, including one about 5 months ago. The devs just don't care and it's reflected in all the 'official' and canned responses everywhere that doesn't match what's actually happening in the game. I'm not even sure why I bother anymore with their false promises and lip service. All talk, no action...


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7 серп. 2023, 11:5507.08.23
8 серп. 2023, 03:39(відредаговано)
01.05.23
2

And yet... when I put my "best" mechs together, I get matched against this:

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With this... less than half the hanger score (I still won btw)... and what, just because I have a full-legend mech?

In order to have a chance, I now have to mix-and match lower level weapons with the better mechs, and higher ranked weapons with the lower mechs... balance it out... then it's back to "normal"... I never got the 54 kills highlighted in the list, never cheated, just worked a good combo... till something flipped recently - don't know if it was my rank, xp, progress of my pilots or what... but it sucks... if you can't use the hanger power as a reasonable assessment of what is a fair match up, then don't have a hanger power score in the first place.


695,1085,636 vs 1557,1151,1080,821,1135... how on earth is that "fair" - even with a penalty, for some unkown infraction of the rules! (even his Bastion out-ranks mine!... and it was a struggle to put down the Surge)

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Shouldn't this also be an example of "hanger lowering"? 4 Legend pilots, 3 of them maxed... one sad mech... yet low hanger score, and they didn't seem to be penalized... what gives?

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CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
8 серп. 2023, 09:3908.08.23
10.02.23
2031
HyperFluff

And yet... when I put my "best" mechs together, I get matched against this:

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With this... less than half the hanger score (I still won btw)... and what, just because I have a full-legend mech?

In order to have a chance, I now have to mix-and match lower level weapons with the better mechs, and higher ranked weapons with the lower mechs... balance it out... then it's back to "normal"... I never got the 54 kills highlighted in the list, never cheated, just worked a good combo... till something flipped recently - don't know if it was my rank, xp, progress of my pilots or what... but it sucks... if you can't use the hanger power as a reasonable assessment of what is a fair match up, then don't have a hanger power score in the first place.


695,1085,636 vs 1557,1151,1080,821,1135... how on earth is that "fair" - even with a penalty, for some unkown infraction of the rules! (even his Bastion out-ranks mine!... and it was a struggle to put down the Surge)

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Shouldn't this also be an example of "hanger lowering"? 4 Legend pilots, 3 of them maxed... one sad mech... yet low hanger score, and they didn't seem to be penalized... what gives?

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The Matchmaking system, as well as its behavior with SP droppers, may perform not 100% correctly, but we are working hard to make some improvements for this feature!