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Aug 2, 2016, 12:1808/02/16
04/05/13
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emitter carnage

why are you planning this in holliday season are you realy serieus with this joke ?
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Aug 2, 2016, 13:0708/02/16
231991

Including the fact that they have conflicting statements on the News page.  First they tell you in the banner that you can restore 90% FOR FREE.  Then they tell you in the body of info that 90% can be restored using Crystals and 10% for free from the Infirmary.

Which is it Plarium?
Aug 2, 2016, 14:5508/02/16
10/19/14
5
Just another blatant attempt to force us to spend more. 
Aug 3, 2016, 09:5608/03/16
231991

FlyinTiger said:


Including the fact that they have conflicting statements on the News page.  First they tell you in the banner that you can restore 90% FOR FREE.  Then they tell you in the body of info that 90% can be restored using Crystals and 10% for free from the Infirmary.

Which is it Plarium?




Surely it says 90% free AFTER the carnage has finished and up to 90% using crystals BEFORE the carnage has finished?  Or maybe I am reading wrong too :o

Aug 3, 2016, 11:1308/03/16
231991

FlyinTiger said:


Including the fact that they have conflicting statements on the News page.  First they tell you in the banner that you can restore 90% FOR FREE.  Then they tell you in the body of info that 90% can be restored using Crystals and 10% for free from the Infirmary.

Which is it Plarium?

Let me clarify it.

After the carnage, you will be able to restore 90% of your Units lost in PvP on Emitters for free. It means both: Offense and Defense. But during the Carnage you will be able to restore them for Crystals, as usual.

You will have 7 days after the Carnage to restore lost 90% for free.
Aug 3, 2016, 15:0208/03/16
04/05/13
35
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

FlyinTiger said:


Including the fact that they have conflicting statements on the News page.  First they tell you in the banner that you can restore 90% FOR FREE.  Then they tell you in the body of info that 90% can be restored using Crystals and 10% for free from the Infirmary.

Which is it Plarium?

Let me clarify it.

After the carnage, you will be able to restore 90% of your Units lost in PvP on Emitters for free. It means both: Offense and Defense. But during the Carnage you will be able to restore them for Crystals, as usual.

You will have 7 days after the Carnage to restore lost 90% for free.
oke after this there wil be players that quite the game for sure ......think plarium think .
Aug 4, 2016, 10:1408/04/16
231991
Danny said:


oke after this there wil be players that quite the game for sure ......think plarium think .
Why you're so pessimistic?
Aug 4, 2016, 11:5908/04/16
04/05/13
35

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Danny said:



oke after this there wil be players that quite the game for sure ......think plarium think .

Why you're so pessimistic?


becouse of that some of my members are on hollidays for a few weeks and not able to login ....so if they loose troops on the emitters and not able to get 90 % of them back and other players in game can than its not fair play from plarium and for sure my members and myself wil quite this game and move on
Aug 5, 2016, 04:4208/05/16
10/04/13
3875
danwldr said:

So, the announcement says 90% return, the mission tab says 95% return for free




Which is it??????????????????

It's 90%, the 95% in the description is a mistake. 
Aug 21, 2016, 16:3208/21/16
05/05/14
63

I agree, but emitter carnage has no rewards, just experience points.




BiohazarD said:


CK-Prophesy said:


We have evidence that our enemy (Federation Army)  was able to get there army back after the server came back up. They petitioned Plarium Support and somehow complained enough to get it back. Now, please note that the destruction of the army was after the server came back up.  They had the same equal opportunity as the rest of us to wipe out of offense from sectors in which total protection wore off, that failed to launch due to down time and the coming back of the server. While they were able to get there army, we did not.  We lost 2 emitters during the downtime as some of us were not able to login.  The compensation was not fair by any means.  So why is it fair for an enemy to get theres back? Here is the scenario step by step:


1) Plarium server goes down - half the people were not able to login. Some of these people had a lot of offense of clan's members at there sector with total protection turn on

2) Due to the time of the server was down - the total protection wore off. 

3) Plarium fixes the server downtime and it comes back up - the enemy sector was identified with a lot of offense out and total protection removed. Therefore they were attacked AFTER the server came back up, not during the downtime. All the army was killed on Iseva's sector ( 1700 ; 1525 ) . They had the same equal opportunity as the rest of us.

4) They complained to plarium support and got there army back.  While the rest of us got only the 30k res in return.  Shouldn't we also get out offense back that was lost on there sectors? If they are able to get it back should we  not also? 


http://prntscr.com/c7tt9g

http://prntscr.com/c7turv



How is this fair? 

____________________________________________________________________________________________


The emitter carnage is again starting. Has plarium ensured that this downtime will not happen again?  

Thank you. 


(DCL - Men Of Renown)

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:



CK Bugz Bunny said:


perhaps next time the devs could make sure that the laod balancing and the http request is  handle proper.


 thank you though for a gratuitous 30k res to replace the thousands of crystals worth of wasted bonus, total protection ect.


    when the game came back up, we located people that ailed at launching a proper emmi attack, and we able to destroy offence before it took off. 

this was done to active sectors  that failed to turn on total protection... they lost alot of troops, and we lost some too...   mighty nice to know their clan was able to submit screen shots of losses for replacements :/   

  considering this was a loss not due to the downtime.. it was mighty considerate.  how come we werent offered the same for our troops?

I'm not sure what you mean exactly. Restoring Units lost during the downtime?

I suppose the only totally fair way to handle this would be to completely roll back all results of the battle (ie everyone involved would have the troops lost added back to their accounts, and have the xp and offense/defense points subtracted, along with having any rewards for pvp points they got from the battle removed). Depending on how many people had troops in the sector(s) involved, that could be a massive amount of work sorting through log files, unless Plarium has some automated system in place (as far as I'm aware they don't). 

As for load balancing, I've no idea why plarium seems to have so much trouble with it.  Maybe they need a new IT guy. 

Aug 26, 2016, 09:5108/26/16
231991
CK-Prophesy said:

Hi Alyona,


The information concerning my rivals' units is accurate. The exception was made and we never got anything in return out of it.


Here is evidence of such: 


http://prntscr.com/caem8n


Please consult with your support team. 

So you had a ss, but they didn't restore your Units?
Aug 27, 2016, 01:0008/27/16
06/11/14
52

two parties make up that battle report.


 one side got thier troops back.

one side did not. 



Aug 29, 2016, 10:3808/29/16
231991

Guys, all decisions are made by Support Team only. You can contact them again if you wish. However, we are not able to help you on Forum. I can only ask for some clarifications if you have:

a) Your ticket ID where your request was declined though you had screenshots.

b) Ticket ID of your rivals where they have received their Units back after sending the same screenshots. 

If you give me that two IDs, I can dig some info for you. In any case, Support Team restores Units only for players who ask for it, not for both sides, unless the second side submits their own ticket.
Sep 16, 2016, 18:1109/16/16
Sep 16, 2016, 18:12(edited)
06/11/14
52

A documented bug is a bug which was reported to the game developers via the internal reporting system.

A bug can be reported by QA specialists and Support Team representatives.

If player lost in-game goods as a results of such bug or when the game servers were not functioning we can and will provide a player with a compensation for the losses.




THIS IS A palarium QUOTE.


   my issue is that is FROM SUPPORT.


but when i submitted the INGAME LOSS of GOODS>...     um we were DENIED???????????



                    i posted the denial copy and paste where it stated that we were given a small care oackage for the inconvience. but NOTHING for the loss of in game goods.

but you saw fit to delete it.         

Sep 17, 2016, 15:2209/17/16
Sep 23, 2019, 12:02(edited)
2

Bugs has a point


  experience booster 50% is 300 crystals

  defense enhance 20% x2 is 800 crystals

  offence enhance 20% x2 is 800 crystals

that is 10.00$ in game goods that were wasted during downtime.
 
Sep 17, 2016, 21:4109/17/16
10/04/13
3875

ck JOHN said:


. Biohazard ?    how so?   

the issue is that losses occured on both sides.   the sector attacked would not have been found in such a manner but for the bug. if their losses occured because of the bug, if this were known outcome the attacking forces would not have even attacked and suicided for zero points, zero return, and actually came out NEGATIVE for the occurrence. so this way, one side is rewarded and one side is penalized because of the bug.  so now our enemy has their offence back and we are at a loss... yeah. hows that explained in any of the above?


and then there is the issue of in game goods....


COLOSSAL is a word that comes to mind to start a sentence that would be starred out. 

You did get the xp and offense points from the battle, and maybe would have attacked anyways for that.  I think the reasoning is that you chose to attack, whereas the defender couldn't access their account and therefore had no choice whether they participated in the battle.  So you might get the boosts back if you activated them then couldn't log in to use them, but probably won't get the troops back if you were the attacking party. 

Like I said, I'm just trying to explain plarium's logic, I don't necessarily agree with it. 
Sep 18, 2016, 16:4009/18/16
Sep 18, 2016, 16:42(edited)
06/11/14
52

the boost were lost before the game even came back online. -_- as repeatedly stated.   the game was down for 8.5 hours.



  as per the attack, the defenders also got to keep their xp, and defensive points 0.0   so..... k.


though the attacker CHOOSE to attack, this outcome decides a war between two clans. and palariums " hand of god" mode as severely altered the long term. also the game was online for everyone. support has made it clear that afk is not their responsibility.  

 and for the record, he was on line because he fired nukes in retaliation for the incoming nukes.

however facts aside.....

   if you had 10 offensive troops,    and so did i 

we fight and i take you to 5 offensive troops leaving me 7.

palarium steps in ...


now you have 10 offensive units, and i have 7...     so in essence if i do WIN a battle three times.. i lose the game.  because it wil be 10-1


and the reason this was brought here......    this has happened that the feds have gotten troops back. this will mark the 3rd time this year. the goonswarm once.   


just trying to post this up ~ so when the tears flow later, there is a reference point ^^


Aug 22, 2016, 12:5708/22/16
231991

Hi, CK-Prophesy!

I'm not sure if your information concerning your rivals' units is accurate. Our Support Team can restore lost Units only if they were lost as the result of the issue which occurred on our end. 

We never make exceptions to this rule.
Aug 21, 2016, 23:4908/21/16
Oct 26, 2020, 12:03(edited)
395

i don't know who the hell is responsible for this tourney debacle....


butt this is really a mess!


not only the tournaments are , but also the mailsystem is messed up again!


I think you should decide who get's fired at Plarium.


Dev's f ck up again

Aug 21, 2016, 10:4308/21/16
10/04/13
3875

CK-Prophesy said:


We have evidence that our enemy (Federation Army)  was able to get there army back after the server came back up. They petitioned Plarium Support and somehow complained enough to get it back. Now, please note that the destruction of the army was after the server came back up.  They had the same equal opportunity as the rest of us to wipe out of offense from sectors in which total protection wore off, that failed to launch due to down time and the coming back of the server. While they were able to get there army, we did not.  We lost 2 emitters during the downtime as some of us were not able to login.  The compensation was not fair by any means.  So why is it fair for an enemy to get theres back? Here is the scenario step by step:


1) Plarium server goes down - half the people were not able to login. Some of these people had a lot of offense of clan's members at there sector with total protection turn on

2) Due to the time of the server was down - the total protection wore off. 

3) Plarium fixes the server downtime and it comes back up - the enemy sector was identified with a lot of offense out and total protection removed. Therefore they were attacked AFTER the server came back up, not during the downtime. All the army was killed on Iseva's sector ( 1700 ; 1525 ) . They had the same equal opportunity as the rest of us.

4) They complained to plarium support and got there army back.  While the rest of us got only the 30k res in return.  Shouldn't we also get out offense back that was lost on there sectors? If they are able to get it back should we  not also? 


http://prntscr.com/c7tt9g

http://prntscr.com/c7turv



How is this fair? 

____________________________________________________________________________________________


The emitter carnage is again starting. Has plarium ensured that this downtime will not happen again?  

Thank you. 


(DCL - Men Of Renown)

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:



CK Bugz Bunny said:


perhaps next time the devs could make sure that the laod balancing and the http request is  handle proper.


 thank you though for a gratuitous 30k res to replace the thousands of crystals worth of wasted bonus, total protection ect.


    when the game came back up, we located people that ailed at launching a proper emmi attack, and we able to destroy offence before it took off. 

this was done to active sectors  that failed to turn on total protection... they lost alot of troops, and we lost some too...   mighty nice to know their clan was able to submit screen shots of losses for replacements :/   

  considering this was a loss not due to the downtime.. it was mighty considerate.  how come we werent offered the same for our troops?

I'm not sure what you mean exactly. Restoring Units lost during the downtime?

I suppose the only totally fair way to handle this would be to completely roll back all results of the battle (ie everyone involved would have the troops lost added back to their accounts, and have the xp and offense/defense points subtracted, along with having any rewards for pvp points they got from the battle removed). Depending on how many people had troops in the sector(s) involved, that could be a massive amount of work sorting through log files, unless Plarium has some automated system in place (as far as I'm aware they don't). 

As for load balancing, I've no idea why plarium seems to have so much trouble with it.  Maybe they need a new IT guy. 
Aug 19, 2016, 17:3008/19/16
Aug 19, 2016, 17:52(edited)
05/05/14
63

We have evidence that our enemy (Federation Army)  was able to get there army back after the server came back up. They petitioned Plarium Support and somehow complained enough to get it back. Now, please note that the destruction of the army was after the server came back up.  They had the same equal opportunity as the rest of us to wipe out of offense from sectors in which total protection wore off, that failed to launch due to down time and the coming back of the server. While they were able to get there army, we did not.  We lost 2 emitters during the downtime as some of us were not able to login.  The compensation was not fair by any means.  So why is it fair for an enemy to get theres back? Here is the scenario step by step:


1) Plarium server goes down - half the people were not able to login. Some of these people had a lot of offense of clan's members at there sector with total protection turn on

2) Due to the time of the server was down - the total protection wore off. 

3) Plarium fixes the server downtime and it comes back up - the enemy sector was identified with a lot of offense out and total protection removed. Therefore they were attacked AFTER the server came back up, not during the downtime. All the army was killed on Iseva's sector ( 1700 ; 1525 ) . They had the same equal opportunity as the rest of us.

4) They complained to plarium support and got there army back.  While the rest of us got only the 30k res in return.  Shouldn't we also get out offense back that was lost on there sectors? If they are able to get it back should we  not also? 


http://prntscr.com/c7tt9g

http://prntscr.com/c7turv



How is this fair? 

____________________________________________________________________________________________


The emitter carnage is again starting. Has plarium ensured that this downtime will not happen again?  

Thank you. 


(DCL - Men Of Renown)

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:



CK Bugz Bunny said:


perhaps next time the devs could make sure that the laod balancing and the http request is  handle proper.


 thank you though for a gratuitous 30k res to replace the thousands of crystals worth of wasted bonus, total protection ect.


    when the game came back up, we located people that ailed at launching a proper emmi attack, and we able to destroy offence before it took off. 

this was done to active sectors  that failed to turn on total protection... they lost alot of troops, and we lost some too...   mighty nice to know their clan was able to submit screen shots of losses for replacements :/   

  considering this was a loss not due to the downtime.. it was mighty considerate.  how come we werent offered the same for our troops?

I'm not sure what you mean exactly. Restoring Units lost during the downtime?



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