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Mar 10, 2019, 12:3003/10/19
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Is this a Super Pack, Mega Pack or Special Holiday Offer

I am wondering what kind of offers these are.  They were originally $199, but now offered at $20.  The amount of resources are quite abundant for the price offered.  From my understanding, super packs are originally $99 offered at $5, while mega packs are originally $199 offered at $10.  Please help identify these packs.  Thanks in advance.







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Mar 10, 2019, 16:0703/10/19
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The 1st 2 aren't anything special.


The 3rd is a good deal.


(Nothing 'Mega' or 'Super' about any of them.)


One way to tell is when the normal Inquisitor packs that normally have 18 - 22 candles jump to 170'ish.


Just remember - buy as many packs as you can on that day, the deals will drop on you for several weeks afterwards.


- so, make sure you pick the best day for you, be it for the Inquisitor, Platinum, gold / silver / rss, or whatever suits you.


I'll post pics in a bit - I think I've hit the point where offers are as good as they're going to get.
Mar 10, 2019, 16:3203/10/19
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> I am wondering what kind of offers these are.  They were originally $199, but now offered at $20.


I cannot find Test's thread on this, but an upshot was you cannot trust the original and sale $. They never were that much - it's a gimmick.


> From my understanding, super packs are originally $99 offered at $5, while mega packs are originally $199 offered at $10.


Nah. The numbers are all over and meaningless. Eventually you'll see the same offer with prices halved, but less gold.


The %'s are a ballpark gauge of the offers, though. But only ballpark. Those seem like good %'s, but I haven't really looked.


Test's thread discussed these, but I can't find it.


The %'s are based on the cost of the item in the item store against the price of gold at the bottom of the offers. What isn't accounted for in them is the useless stuff that comes along with them, bloating the numbers.


Focus / evaluate based on what you need and ignore the rest. If you compare all the offers available at a point in time you'll see a wide range of cost for stamina, boosts, gold, silver, rss across the packs. Most of which will still be cheaper than the day after you buy a pack.


Then there are the snake oil packs in the same day. e.g. $4.99 for 3.6M gold, then $9.99 for 4.8M gold. {Phooey!}
Mar 10, 2019, 16:3203/10/19
Mar 10, 2019, 16:34(edited)
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Thanks for the reply.  I thought I was getting a great deal with the first two offers above; thanks for the clarification. 


I also received the following offers (good for another 7 hours).  I believe this is the inquisitor offer that you mentioned.  What about the others below?









Mar 10, 2019, 18:1603/10/19
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Aryianna said:


WWO said:



I cannot find Test's thread on this, but an upshot was you cannot trust the original and sale $. They never were that much - it's a gimmick.

Is this the link:  https://plarium.com/forum/en/throne-kingdom-at-war/600_technical-support/91629_super-discount-packs/?post=437724

That is similar to the one I was thinking of, but can't find. I think Test duplicated his post there - certainly it is pertinent to your question.


The other link I could find (but also not the one I'm thinking of) is https://plarium.com/forum/en/throne-kingdom-at-war/599_fan-guides/70089_test-s-assailant-guide/

Mar 10, 2019, 18:2403/10/19
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Wigmar & Lillian will be tomorrow, Vigo after, then Marc. Then Darius & Canute, and then Sixtus.


I too just noticed these offer levels - and have noted on my calendar, based on the above. :)
Mar 11, 2019, 16:2803/11/19
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Danielle said:


WWO said:

ar to the one I was thinking of, but can't find. I think Test duplicated his post there - certainly it is pertinent to your question.


The other link I could find (but also not the one I'm thinking of) is https://plarium.com/forum/en/throne-kingdom-at-war/599_fan-guides/70089_test-s-assailant-guide/

Did Test stop playing altogether?  His posts were extremely helpful.

The end of one of his threads says so. I've seen nothing since to indicate otherwise.


Thankfully, because he put it here, anyone can pick it up and continue it. He did the job so well, I've never felt a need to do so! :)

Mar 12, 2019, 09:2303/12/19
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Seems gone today. :(


Another (this?) thread noted such packs come in 3's, Day 1's, day 2 adds a 2nd, day 3 same. Recommendation was to wait for day 3 and buy all 3 then.


Anyone know if the above was 1 day only, or day 2 or 3 of 3?

Mar 13, 2019, 04:4403/13/19
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I had it for two days.  I didn't buy any of the offers; I'll wait for Easter.
Mar 13, 2019, 04:4803/13/19
Mar 13, 2019, 04:51(edited)
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WWO said:


Danielle said:


WWO said:

ar to the one I was thinking of, but can't find. I think Test duplicated his post there - certainly it is pertinent to your question.


The other link I could find (but also not the one I'm thinking of) is https://plarium.com/forum/en/throne-kingdom-at-war/599_fan-guides/70089_test-s-assailant-guide/

Did Test stop playing altogether?  His posts were extremely helpful.

The end of one of his threads says so. I've seen nothing since to indicate otherwise.


Thankfully, because he put it here, anyone can pick it up and continue it. He did the job so well, I've never felt a need to do so! :)

I'd like to find all his threads and consolidate them to one post (e.g. cut and paste).  He had such a grasp and understanding of the game's algorithms (some) and dynamics, although most of the former, of course, is rather elusive, unlike other MMORPG's.


There was a thread/post where he talked about the vagueness of the game's algorithm.  I think he either addressed the effect of boosts on battle dynamics or something similar.  Anyway, I agree with him.  There's much "hidden" info that can be deceptive to the user.
Mar 13, 2019, 04:5403/13/19
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WWO said:




Seems gone today. :(


Another (this?) thread noted such packs come in 3's, Day 1's, day 2 adds a 2nd, day 3 same. Recommendation was to wait for day 3 and buy all 3 then.


Anyone know if the above was 1 day only, or day 2 or 3 of 3?

It may be back by Easter.
Mar 14, 2019, 01:3503/14/19
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An example of the snake oil, and the need to shop carefully (for the gems can be hidden):


Yesterday's offer:



Today's offer (2x price, not 2x gold) - see one after it for 'gem':



Paltry 250k VIP (I need > 9.7M for next level), but look at gp:



So keep an eagle eye out ...


Then below, 2.2M VIP and 2y boosts, plus 1M gp:



Mar 14, 2019, 08:3803/14/19
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In your example above, the percentages are not as deceptive as Test described in another thread/post.
Mar 14, 2019, 08:3903/14/19
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WWO said:

An example of the snake oil, and the need to shop carefully (for the gems can be hidden):

What do you mean by "snake oil"?
Mar 14, 2019, 08:3903/14/19
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Never mind.  I just googled it.
Mar 14, 2019, 17:1003/14/19
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An example of snake oil ... purchasing one pack causes other packs to duplicate.


Original:



Duplicate (snake oil) appearing after another pack purchased:


2x price, much less than 1/2 the guts.

Caveat emptor!
Mar 18, 2019, 01:1303/18/19
Mar 18, 2019, 16:25(edited)
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Aryianna said:


An excellent holiday (St. Patrick's) offer.  74M% profit!



Sadly, not available to all. Depends upon where you are in your 'purchase cycle'.


Yesterday's offer, having purchased the day before:

(1/4 yours, 2x price)



Today's offer, having purchased the above yesterday:

(Almost 2x offer, for 2x price. Note that the %'s are pretty close / reflect that. Nowhere near your 74M%, though.)



vis a vis a long past Silver offer (Gold of the Elite was 3M then, not today's max of 3.6M):



So (#):

$10 - 10.875B, $0.92/B (yesterday's offer)

$20 - 21.650B, $0.92/B (today's offer, after having purchased the prior)

$10 -   0.592B, $16.91/B ('normal' 'max' offer. (*))


(*) That max doesn't feel max. I expected 1 - 2 B. I will try to remember to update when I see such come around again.

(#) Ignoring the other items of the offers. e.g. Citadel cart boosts permitting 15M per cart instead of 1.7M.
Apr 12, 2019, 00:0904/12/19
Apr 12, 2019, 00:11(edited)
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WWO said:

Seems today's 'Lucrative Offer' is indeed that.

(Matches other recent sales, and OP.)


Especially if using X x US$4.99 pack 3.6M gp contents as a yardstick (fudge factor: 1), considering the corresponding cheaper packs, below.

[Factors < 1 poorer, > 1 better, deals. Higher is better.]


Making for 'values' of 2.22 and 2/3 (0.67), below. i.e. Top one is 2.22 times the value of the best lowest priced pack equivalent.

- bearing in mind you would have to be able to afford a pack 4 times the cost of the cheapest, and be willing to give up and / or wait for the packs you really want to come around again. e.g. 170 candles of your preferred Inquisitor. If Canute isn't your fave, you may want to pass on this.




The other aspect of the other thread about pack sales was that packs sales come in 3 day cycles. (IIUC.) So tomorrow this pack should be repeated, and an additional better deal pack offered, and the day after both still available and a 3rd better deal pack offer. (Or so the poster claimed.)


If this bears out, someone please post. The implication is to wait for day 3 and buy all 3 better packs then.


Such would also get around the not my desired Inquisitor issue. Tomorrow should be Sixtus, and Adrian the day after.


Platinum comes on Mondays and Thursdays - so Sixtus tomorrow could be of interest. (You need Platinum, lots and lots of Platinum, to raise buildings above 26. (Something like 36 buildings, 9 levels over 26 ... 324 levels to go up ...) And (Sixtus) studies are needed to max out rss generation and troop level training ability.


Mondays are 7d Villein Abodes (which is to say, rss / growth) packs, while Thursdays are 7d Black Castle (battle) packs.
why cant i see the top offer only the lower one was offered and it is which is a waste of time if i had the higher one i would get it but not this
Apr 12, 2019, 02:4804/12/19
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Day 2 (of 3?):


Platinum normally maxes out at 250k for $4.99. This is 1.5M for 4x that - so call this a 1.5 factor.

(As you can see below.) Note that this pack also contains more RSS, boosts and Craftman and carriages, too. And -35% build boosts - on multi-100 week builds ... this starts to matter quite a bit.


Also below, yesterdays offer is still here. (Day 2 of 3?)