nix said:

Not a big fan of the changes they made for the league quests... Getting top rewards has become almost impossible! 

Smaller or medium sized leagues have no chance at all now

We have the train troops quest running now, with the points we have now we get.... 10 archers and some resources as before we would have had warlocks and spells of enhancement. (or even wyverns? not sure about the previous needed points)

And why is a legendary reward also wyverns?

The legendary reward seems to be the same as the elite one except it gives 2 level 2 crystals instead of 1 level 1.   It would be cool if it gave dragons or legendaries instead.  As for how hard they are to complete, my league doesn't seem to be having any trouble completing them but I can see how it would be tough for leagues with only a few members.  Maybe the requirements should be scaled to the league size.  

Just Plarium doing what it set out to do:

 Kill one man leagues, small leagues and tight knit non-hardcore leagues. 

I assume they will be more of such features coming. Features that will make large leagues even more powerful and EVEN more invincible, perhaps a beacon protection bubble. 

Knightmare said:

you are playing it wrong.

I would give yall a hint, but why? whats the point, you expect handouts, and not outsmarting the system.

no one is expecting hand outs but the fact that Plarium focuses on the coining is getting tired  and old - we have made all the league quests since the changes but I can imagine it's very hard for the smaller leagues - those few rewards go a long way for lower level players

I found a new game that is FREE to play and not pay to win - it has more content & better graphics - so far I can't say anything bad about it

Knightmare said:

I would give yall a hint, but why? whats the point, you expect handouts, and not outsmarting the system.

This thread is about the changes to League Quests

Jezebel said:

Knightmare said:

you are playing it wrong.

I would give yall a hint, but why? whats the point, you expect handouts, and not outsmarting the system.

no one is expecting hand outs but the fact that Plarium focuses on the coining is getting tired  and old - we have made all the league quests since the changes but I can imagine it's very hard for the smaller leagues - those few rewards go a long way for lower level players

I found a new game that is FREE to play and not pay to win - it has more content & better graphics - so far I can't say anything bad about it

the only reason I am still playing Stormfall is for my league and the fact that I have spent 2 1/2 plus years building a castle and army so I intend to use it before I quit

Hello.

For small Leagues which contain less than 20 players, nothing has been changed.

For middle size Leagues (21-50 players), requirements for each step increased, but they still can be completed if the League is active.

For big Leagues (50+ players), 5th step was added and requirements for each step increased. The situation is the same, these requirements were calculated in such a way that big, active League can complete the Quest successfully.

Yes, it can be not as easy as before to complete the Quest, but now your League needs even more cooperation to do it and get the Rewards.

Been spending time in ESO dishing out arrows to the knee, its fun :p Best of all not p2w -) Still logging on once a day or so in Stormfall, but the level of how much I care is at an all time low tbh.

Snowgoon said:

Alina Phoenix said:

For big Leagues (50+ players), 5th step was added and requirements for each step increased. The situation is the same, these requirements were calculated in such a way that big, active League can complete the Quest successfully.

Yes, it can be not as easy as before to complete the Quest, but now your League needs even more cooperation to do it and get the Rewards.

Why?

Why were these changes made? and why so secretive??

Maybe now you will understand why nobody will ever trust Plarium

For the biggest, most active leagues you have given extra rewards, but this is only 6 wyverns instead of 3

For the smallest leagues you have capped membership, they cannot increase membership without facing massive reductions from league quest rewards

For all other leagues this is a massive nerf .... a secretive, sly nerf

Hello.

This update wasn't included to the update news by mistake. Sorry for it.

The changes were implemented to increase the level of cooperation in the Leagues. Now the majority of the League members should take part in the Event to complete it. The number of points was calculated based on the League size.

> For the smallest leagues you have capped membership, they cannot increase membership without facing massive reductions from league quest rewards

Sorry, didn't get it quite straight. Why will  Leagues have smaller Rewards if they increase their size? On the opposite, if they will become 50+ League, they will get 5th step with the additional reward.

Stiletto said:

There are only 34 in my league on Farwol server, but they still increased the quest requirements

We now need to kill 600 enemy units, but it used to be only 300

3000 for the second milestone when it used to be 1500

They also changed League Tournaments to 250 pvp points again, when the last one was only 100 pvp points.
They changed it from zero to 100, then 100 to 250 and after many complaints they reduced this to 100
As soon as we turn our back they increase it again

Hello.

Yes, the requirements for middle-size Leagues (21-50 members) have been increased.

Nothing was changed only for small Leagues.

I agree with your viewpoint, like it or hate it, the league rewards and the league activity event both encourage league mergers and the dissolution of small, mid level leagues.

You can argue it kills independent minded people from going out on their own, or new leagues from becoming big leagues, but I honestly think it forces more people to learn to work together.

Alina Phoenix said:e

The changes were implemented to increase the level of cooperation in the Leagues. Now the majority of the League members should take part in the Event to complete it. The number of points was calculated based on the League size.

> For the smallest leagues you have capped membership, they cannot increase membership without facing massive reductions from league quest rewards

Sorry, didn't get it quite straight. Why will  Leagues have smaller Rewards if they increase their size? On the opposite, if they will become 50+ League, they will get 5th step with the additional reward.

It is clear from your answers that plarium are trying to destroy small and mid-size leagues

If a small league reaches 50+ members they will never be able to complete any of the new milestones

Their only chance for survival will be to merge with many other small leagues to form one much larger league, which will leave dozens of tiny inactive leagues, with dozens more inactive fortresses level 0 to 5 - this is not good for the game and is very bad for game morale.
I think plarium made it far too easy to create new leagues, and now you are paying the price
Facebook's idea to disband inactive leagues was badly implemented - another good idea ruined by bad methods. Active officers should be given the right to demote inactive marshals
I suggested a long time ago that all level zero forts should be removed, and active league marshals be given an amnesty to rebuild for free if they think they can reach level 5 upgrades within the protection period

The top coiner leagues will get stronger while ALL normal leagues will get weaker as they lose members and receive fewer rewards (including League Chests)

Adding Chests full of free gifts and nerfing League Quests and League Tournaments will leave us with a few uber-leagues and a landscape of desolation, and plans to increase maximum league size will only make things worse
It was a bad idea to increase League size from 100 to 160, but a recent thread warned of 300+ Leagues

R.I.P Stormfall

Snowgoon said:

Alina Phoenix said:e

The changes were implemented to increase the level of cooperation in the Leagues. Now the majority of the League members should take part in the Event to complete it. The number of points was calculated based on the League size.

> For the smallest leagues you have capped membership, they cannot increase membership without facing massive reductions from league quest rewards

Sorry, didn't get it quite straight. Why will  Leagues have smaller Rewards if they increase their size? On the opposite, if they will become 50+ League, they will get 5th step with the additional reward.

It is clear from your answers that plarium are trying to destroy small and mid-size leagues

If a small league reaches 50+ members they will never be able to complete any of the new milestones

Their only chance for survival will be to merge with many other small leagues to form one much larger league, which will leave dozens of tiny inactive leagues, with dozens more inactive fortresses level 0 to 5 - this is not good for the game and is very bad for game morale.
I think plarium made it far too easy to create new leagues, and now you are paying the price
Facebook's idea to disband inactive leagues was badly implemented - another good idea ruined by bad methods. Active officers should be given the right to demote inactive marshals
I suggested a long time ago that all level zero forts should be removed, and active league marshals be given an amnesty to rebuild for free if they think they can reach level 5 upgrades within the protection period

Hello.

If a small League becomes 50+ members League, it means that it has more active players who can take part in the Quest and help to complete it.

If the majority of the League is inactive players, then yes, new milestones can be difficult to achieve. But it's a responsibility of Marshal to keep the League active and remove inactive players. 

Decreasing the number of inactive Leagues is the main reason why League activity feature was implemented on Facebook.

Snowgoon said:

Alina Phoenix said:e

The changes were implemented to increase the level of cooperation in the Leagues. Now the majority of the League members should take part in the Event to complete it. The number of points was calculated based on the League size.

> For the smallest leagues you have capped membership, they cannot increase membership without facing massive reductions from league quest rewards

Sorry, didn't get it quite straight. Why will  Leagues have smaller Rewards if they increase their size? On the opposite, if they will become 50+ League, they will get 5th step with the additional reward.

It is clear from your answers that plarium are trying to destroy small and mid-size leagues

If a small league reaches 50+ members they will never be able to complete any of the new milestones

Their only chance for survival will be to merge with many other small leagues to form one much larger league, which will leave dozens of tiny inactive leagues, with dozens more inactive fortresses level 0 to 5 - this is not good for the game and is very bad for game morale.
I think plarium made it far too easy to create new leagues, and now you are paying the price
Facebook's idea to disband inactive leagues was badly implemented - another good idea ruined by bad methods. Active officers should be given the right to demote inactive marshals
I suggested a long time ago that all level zero forts should be removed, and active league marshals be given an amnesty to rebuild for free if they think they can reach level 5 upgrades within the protection period

Hello.

If a small League becomes 50+ members League, it means that it has more active players who can take part in the Quest and help to complete it.

If the majority of the League is inactive players, then yes, new milestones can be difficult to achieve. But it's a responsibility of Marshal to keep the League active and remove inactive players. 

Decreasing the number of inactive Leagues is the main reason why League activity feature was implemented on Facebook.

Alina Phoenix said:e

The changes were implemented to increase the level of cooperation in the Leagues. Now the majority of the League members should take part in the Event to complete it. The number of points was calculated based on the League size.

> For the smallest leagues you have capped membership, they cannot increase membership without facing massive reductions from league quest rewards

Sorry, didn't get it quite straight. Why will  Leagues have smaller Rewards if they increase their size? On the opposite, if they will become 50+ League, they will get 5th step with the additional reward.

If a small league reaches 50+ members they will never be able to complete any of the new milestones

Their only chance for survival will be to merge with many other small leagues to form one much larger league, which will leave dozens of tiny inactive leagues, with dozens more inactive fortresses level 0 to 5 - this is not good for the game and is very bad for game morale.
I think plarium made it far too easy to create new leagues, and now you are paying the price
Facebook's idea to disband inactive leagues was badly implemented - another good idea ruined by bad methods. Active officers should be given the right to demote inactive marshals
I suggested a long time ago that all level zero forts should be removed, and active league marshals be given an amnesty to rebuild for free if they think they can reach level 5 upgrades within the protection period

There are only 34 in my league on Farwol server, but they still increased the quest requirements

We now need to kill 600 enemy units, but it used to be only 300

3000 for the second milestone when it used to be 1500

They also changed League Tournaments to 250 pvp points again, when the last one was only 100 pvp points.
They changed it from zero to 100, then 100 to 250 and after many complaints they reduced this to 100
As soon as we turn our back they increase it again

Alina Phoenix said:

For big Leagues (50+ players), 5th step was added and requirements for each step increased. The situation is the same, these requirements were calculated in such a way that big, active League can complete the Quest successfully.

Yes, it can be not as easy as before to complete the Quest, but now your League needs even more cooperation to do it and get the Rewards.

Why?

Why were these changes made? and why so secretive??

Maybe now you will understand why nobody will ever trust Plarium

For the biggest, most active leagues you have given extra rewards, but this is only 6 wyverns instead of 3

For the smallest leagues you have capped membership, they cannot increase membership without facing massive reductions from league quest rewards

For all other leagues this is a massive nerf .... a secretive, sly nerf