Its silly that the other league has to click accept ...
I dont recall germany waiting for permission before starting WW2.

This whole system where the other league has to accept if one wants to go to war "officially" only creates a hiding place.
This should be fixed imo

BiohazarD said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

https://youtu.be/im2SoltmZEc

http://prntscr.com/ftkai0
http://prntscr.com/ftkapv
http://prntscr.com/ftkaz8
http://prntscr.com/ftkb4y

What does any of that have to do with this topic?

Easy, I shouldnt have to wait for an ok before being able to declare war to in this case resevoir dogs.
War should be declared by 1 party, not ok'd by the second.

Screens are to show that them not accepting the war request doesnt make a difference in us being at war

Like I said in my 1st post ... germany didnt wait for an ok by poland before invading them

Marcel Stokvis said:

BiohazarD said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

https://youtu.be/im2SoltmZEc

http://prntscr.com/ftkai0
http://prntscr.com/ftkapv
http://prntscr.com/ftkaz8
http://prntscr.com/ftkb4y

What does any of that have to do with this topic?

Easy, I shouldnt have to wait for an ok before being able to declare war to in this case resevoir dogs.
War should be declared by 1 party, not ok'd by the second.

Screens are to show that them not accepting the war request doesnt make a difference in us being at war

Like I said in my 1st post ... germany didnt wait for an ok by poland before invading them

Ah ok, makes sense :)

nice song jez ,i let it continiou play and i heared more song of them ,i did nt know them they rock ! :)

am i out of the topic?  ow sorry guys just now i noticed it ;-)

nice song jez ,i let it continiou play and i heared more song of them ,i did nt know them they rock ! :)

am i out of the topic?  ow sorry guys just now i noticed it ;-)

Hello :)

We think that setting the State of War automatically is not a good idea. 

This could be against some Leagues’ policies. Besides, there could be some League members whose actions do not align with their League's intentions not to attack certain Leagues. 

We believe that such cases should be solved through negotiations, and if two Leagues agree that it is time for War, they they can start it.

Alina Phenix said:

Hello :)

We think that setting the State of War automatically is not a good idea. 

This could be against some Leagues’ policies. Besides, there could be some League members whose actions do not align with their League's intentions not to attack certain Leagues. 

We believe that such cases should be solved through negotiations, and if two Leagues agree that it is time for War, they they can start it.

This game isnt called farmville but Stormfall : Age of war

Alina Phenix said:

Hello :)

We think that setting the State of War automatically is not a good idea. 

This could be against some Leagues’ policies. Besides, there could be some League members whose actions do not align with their League's intentions not to attack certain Leagues. 

We believe that such cases should be solved through negotiations, and if two Leagues agree that it is time for War, they they can start it.

That's the problem though, your enemies aren't going to agree to the war request you sent because they know you want them to accept it.  And not doing what you want is what makes them enemies in the first place.  And when we're trying to destroy a league I'd imagine getting destroyed is usually against that leagues policies. 

going to war or war challenge ..?

War challenges are to most league,s pointless and can be ongoing for months to what benefit .?league achievement .= very little

spam attacks and pm,s ? total waste of time and effort .

Declare war on another player or league can be done at anytime by anyone .? Hence  pvp tournament  u are more likely to get players defending and retaliating whilst there are rewards ,to assist some of the losses gained .

are the small achievements gained from challenges worth the effort .?..compared to a pvp war with some recovery via rewards .?

but thats only my opinion .

maybe palarium can come up with a weekend pvp war challenge system ...league rewards for def / off numbers, league achievement rewards all members?.

3 days of anarchy ..lol

djmoody said:

Is there any point in having this discussion when the points mechanisms for wars and challenges are so broken.

If that was fixed then more people might want to take part in something challenging, enjoyable and with a result driven by skill, knowledge and experience.

Until then any other discussion around the mechanics it a bit of a waste of time.

Dont agree there, this isnt the same as BG's being broken or game been uneven or flawed, ie code that needs to be rewritten or checked
This is simply a matter or changing a setting ..

2 very different things

Oracle said:

Can you please break my post bit by bit as to how it's irrelevant. I can debate with you those points in order to arrive at a better standing, maybe even meet a resolution to  your complaint together. 

I wont ...

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

― George Carlin

Marcel Stokvis said:

Oracle said:

Can you please break my post bit by bit as to how it's irrelevant. I can debate with you those points in order to arrive at a better standing, maybe even meet a resolution to  your complaint together. 

I wont ...

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

― George Carlin

My first thesis is based solely on the fact that you misquoted that saying. 

That is Sarah Cook's quote. A lot of things are attributed to Carling even when he didn't say them. It's all down to the logic people use that the internet is always right. I spent hours browsing Carling publication and didn't find that

Oracle said:

The feature was implemented   for many reasons. Yes I understand that real life   works different compared to what we have in the game. Apart from the reason given by the CM, other reasons​ for this feature are:

To​ safeguard decision making to players that a league Marshall have appointed. Imagine if everyone in your league had an ability to start war with any league.

For league security reasons 

To enhance league play styles. Remember not all league want to war, some are grind and social orientated. 

To safeguard against bullies which will abuse the feature to pummel small leagues. 

The major reason is giving players the ability to say no. So if wars are not league goals they can ignore requests. 

Only people given diplo permission by the marshal have the ability to declare war anyways. Making it so the target league couldn't refuse the war request wouldn't give everyone the ability to declare war.

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello, Lords and Ladies! :) 

The final reply regarding this question is that we'll not allow setting an automatic State of War status between the two Leagues.

Oracle is right, there are different reasons that led to this decision. But the main reason is that we don't want to make Leagues to enter a war as it could be against their policies. 

Also, War is not only about Battles, it's also about Diplomacy. So, you can solve such questions through negotiations.

So how can Diplomacy give you this http://prntscr.com/fwrgmf ? If all leagues refuse your war request because they can ? 

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello, Lords and Ladies! :) 

The final reply regarding this question is that we'll not allow setting an automatic State of War status between the two Leagues.

Oracle is right, there are different reasons that led to this decision. But the main reason is that we don't want to make Leagues to enter a war as it could be against their policies. 

Also, War is not only about Battles, it's also about Diplomacy. So, you can solve such questions through negotiations.

So how can Diplomacy give you this http://prntscr.com/fwrgmf ? If all leagues refuse your war request because they can ? 

roadstar Pitbull said:

Alina Phoenix said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

Juglar del Viento said:

Lord Marcel

i have edited ur coment and leave a yellow lines about ur behaviour

please refrain it and try to be respecfull with other people

Regards

please do the same everytime your fellow "moderator" abuses his powers ....
I realise this puts a strain on your alloted times online but it cannot be helped

Surely even the moderators must now realise what kind of flawed person he is if he is even being investigated by Lord Oberon himself
Besides this would not have happend if you had taken the time to delete his comment from this thread in the 1st place like i ASKED

Hello, Lord Marcel.

I don't see here an example when moderator abuses his power. 

Also, I would like to remind you that according to Forum rules it's not allowed to discuss moderstors and their decisions/actions on Forum.

You can discuss it with Lord Oberon in private.

Then perhaps you can ask Lord Oberon ( in private), just how many complaints have been logged against a certain 'moderator'.

Hello, my Lord :) 

I can assure you that any report sent to Lord Oberon is thoroughly checked and investigated :) 

Hello, Lords.

Lord Roadstar Pitbull, your post was removed as trolling of moderators is not allowed according to our Forum Rules.

Lord Marcel, please discuss all the questions you have regarding moderator's posts and answers with Lord Oberon in private. 

Also, I would like to warn you that any trolling of moderators will lead to ban.

brunsonthomas said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

Its silly that the other league has to click accept ...
I dont recall germany waiting for permission before starting WW2.

This whole system where the other league has to accept if one wants to go to war "officially" only creates a hiding place.
This should be fixed imo

Why should a league agree to a state of War and give the opposition tournament points and league accomplishments. I will not agree to a War unless there is a good chance of winning. Why agree to a losing War? So many War challenges are traps.

Of course, so no one ever agrees to wars.  And therefore it's nearly impossible to get the achievements unless you do it with your own alt leagues.  That's why there shouldn't be the option of not agreeing, when one league declares war on another the war should just automatically start.  Then they should both have to agree to end the war.  

BiohazarD said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

https://youtu.be/im2SoltmZEc

http://prntscr.com/ftkai0
http://prntscr.com/ftkapv
http://prntscr.com/ftkaz8
http://prntscr.com/ftkb4y

What does any of that have to do with this topic?

Easy, I shouldnt have to wait for an ok before being able to declare war to in this case resevoir dogs.
War should be declared by 1 party, not ok'd by the second.

Screens are to show that them not accepting the war request doesnt make a difference in us being at war

Like I said in my 1st post ... germany didnt wait for an ok by poland before invading them