EmperorTrump said:

Hey Plarium, i dont know what u did recently to screw with the BGS but i just took out a lvl 98, 51, 38 and 33 BG and do u know what i got??????  About 350 dragons and 70 occult units!!!!!!!!! BULLLLLLLLSHHHIIIIII.......   I spend WEEKS training before i do bgs and i just threw away massive amounts of wyverns and dragons, paladins and knights ive spent WEEKS training and this is all i got?????  I know how the normal system works, its based off losses. So i melted down the 98, melted down the 51,melted down a lvl 23 Portal QUEST bg, then went and finished the 98. Then i got a CRAPPY reward of 295 dragons for finishing a 98..... Yes 295 dragons after all of that.... so i finished the 51 hoping to get the full payout.. Got 55 dragons.. PFFF, so i said thats still not good enough, let me take out a 38 and see.. Got 37 occult units..  STILL not good enough so i took out a 33 saying OK this time im actually gonna get the "real" payout... NOPE..... Another 37 occult units.... WHAT A LOAD OF HORSE SHIIII!!!! Totally inexcusable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am BEYOND PISSED OFF.... Do u know how much money ive spent on this game and i just got thoroughly ROBBED!!!!!!!  OK, thats the way it is??? Then I wont be spending any more money!!! Have it your way..SO STUPID AND RIDICULOUS CHEATING AND ROBBING A MASSIVE SPENDING CUSTOMER WHO IS AN EXPERT AT BGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  NO EXCUSE FOR THAT LOUSY PAYOUT!!!!!

  Go ahead and check my reports from 8:24 pm EST to 12:35 am EST and tell me do u think thats fair????

What a silly thing to nit pick and dispute. The point is ALL the bgs i melted down including a lvl 98 all the way down and 51 all the way down before finishing the 98 and only got rocks and pebbles.. Oops i mean 255 dragons... for my thousands of wyverns, dragons, necros, knights and palas. Then finished 2 other bgs and still got more dirt thrown in my face from Plarium from their recent "Upgrades and changes"

I see u still havent grasped the entirety of what i did. Not my fault. The saga was the smallest piece of the pie and thats all ur hung up on. Stop looking to troll just because u "like to comment". I bet u have thousands of worthless tweets and facebook posts so u can feel special.

 I yellowed a 98 and 51, let me repeat, yellowed a 98... and a 51.. then finished the 98, got a measly 295 dragons for all that. Then finished 3 more bgs waiting for the big payout and still got nothing. The message is for Plarium, not u.  Oh and warehouses and barns were maxed so i could only receive troops. Still got ripped off worse than i EVER have in my entire history of playing.. Oh and coincidentally its since their "Upgrades"............   I will be using the rest of all my stuff and then never spending a penny more. Good job Plarium, u succeeded in driving away a HIGH spender 

 I want an answer Plarium!

Lord Emperortrump,

as far as I can see you're not familiar with recent changes.

Approximately six months ago Plarium resolved Bg's cheating issue. Yellowing Bg's isn't helpful anymore.

Rewards are depending on your bank. Nothing else. 

Thank u for ur input. I have never changed my methods and i still have always gotten massive payouts. Its not so much about the yellowing, but its about ur troop losses correct? In which case my losses for taking out 90% of a lvl 98 and the same to a lvl 51, and then finishing the lvl 98 should be pretty sufficient, more than a 295 dragon reward... Yes i know sometimes u have t finish a few more to hit the big score, so i did. I did a few more lvl 38 and lvl 33 which hadnt been touched, they were full. Still nothing more than 37 necros and 55 dragons. I just did another lvl 32 also and still havent gotten a payout. If theres no payout than what would be the point in throwing away WEEKS worth of training and boosting troops only to get back 5% of what i used?  There is something wrong here. Ive never gotten a raw deal like this, EVER

OK Plarium i have totals to make it easier for u. Troop losses on lvl 98 and lvl 51 BEFORE going back and finishing lvl 98 bg.

 1 Great Western, 1 Pegasus, 143 dragons, 400 wyverns, 109 necro/warlock, 2 Renegades, 341 knights, 981 paladins, 64 pikes.

 THEN when finishing the level 98 bg more losses of ANOTHER 50 dragons, 217 wyverns, 68 necro, 6 warlocks, 11 renegades, 163 knights, 810 paladins, 13 wraiths.

So ALL of that was used to finish the lvl 98. The reward???  

  295 dragons........................... 

  As i said sometimes u have to do a few more bgs to make sure u clear the bank, WHICH I DID, i threw away ANOTHER 157 dragons, 52 wyverns, etc on the lvl 99 bg.. THEN finished the lvl 51 from previously with another 71 dragons, 23 necros, 34 knights, 124 paladins.   

 Reward???  55 dragons.....................

 I said this cannot be possible, so did a lvl 38 and lvl 33 bg. Used over another 100 more dragons and 22 wyverns, 24 necros, 6 renegades, ETC.....  

 Reward from both of those.............. A TOTAL of 70 occult units.............

  Final losses.. 521 dragons, 669 wyverns, 196 necro/warlocks 13 renegades, over 630 knights, over 1800 paladins, ETC ETC...

  Final rewards... 350 dragons and 70 occult units......

 And as i stated i cleared 90% of the lvl 98 and then 90% of the lvl 51 and then finished the 98 for "winnings" of only 255 dragons. Then on and on to more bgs and still NO REWARDS WORTH MY TROOP LOSSES

  I have been doing bgs the same way for 9 months and never changed my methods, and ALWAYS receive massive payouts. Maybe u should inform your customers that you'll be making significant changes before u completely scr.ew over your PAYING (and in my case HIGH HIGH HIGH PAYING) customers. This was not a change from 6 months ago, this was in the past week.

  Even setting aside ALL other unit losses. Just adding my wyvern and dragon losses vs reward count by itself.. 1290 wyverns/dragons lost vs 350 dragon "rewards"........  Not even counting ALLLL the other losses of my troops in there

   COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Jezebel regarding ur strategy for bgs. I do exactly the same method as u recommended. I yellowed a 98 and then a 51 both almost to completion. Figuring in any normal circumstance ive ever had that losing that many troops should be enough for a good payout. Afterall almost completing a 98 is pretty massive losses. So then finished the 98 and got 255 dragons, peanuts for what i lost. In any case like this u still havent cashed out the reward and just have to do a few more bgs of just about any level to get that reward. Afterall, i lost tons yellowing the 98 all the way down, and then lost more dragons/wyverns when i finished it. So i yellowed a 99 a little bit, then took out a 38 from full, still nothing. Running out of troops now i finished the 51 which was yellowed all the way down. Still nothing. Then took out a 33, stlll nothing. I said ok the reward has GOT to be in the bank, so i took out a 33, and then a 32. STILL nothing. Now i have no army left and nothing to show for doing all that. Ive literally NEVER had this happen before. The reward has been built up from yellowing a 98 and a 51 and then finishing the 98, and then doing the 38, 33, and 32. I couldnt afford to keep yellowing without cashing something out first and then going back for more. And yes i always keep some yellowed for when im ready to cash out. Ive always done bgs this same way and it has always worked with 100% success. Ive even taught marshals and all kinds of players how to do it this way and it always works the same for them as it does for me. I do the exact strategy as what u recommended, ive always had 100% success rate in cashing in. Except NOT this time. Hence my extreme frustration and complete dissatisfaction and i assume it has to do with the recent 1% Upgrade changes made

Dear Lords

Yellowing bgs still works but as some of you said it takes more time. It seems as i read from a mate when you dont finish the BG only the 70% (aprox...with this u never can be sure) goes to the bank and the 30% remaining (aprox) gets out of ur bank till u finish the BG.

so yellowing means you have still to barrell some bgs more to be sure u reach the amount required.

hope this can solve ur doubts

Regards

I Like the way players threatening the Plarium   with word like "Do u know how much money ive spent on this game" or  "OK, thats the way it is??? Then I wont be spending any more money!!!" etc etc.
And not just this post, many others who lost or the game doesn't tilted in her/his way , they threatens plarium with the word "Money"
Go ahead plarium.......... dont give reward to hard work or smart strategy , only make people spend  more money  to achieve new level, upgrade troops and you will be  rewarded with this kind of "Black Mail"

True, unfortunately Plarium added bonuses like the hero items for doing bg so if you want to take advantage of those bonuses you either play bg or you buy them - either way you lose - the hero was a great update for lower level players who did not bg to the highest levels BEFORE the hero was introduced - adding levels to bg is not the answer either

Jezebel said:

True, unfortunately Plarium added bonuses like the hero items for doing bg so if you want to take advantage of those bonuses you either play bg or you buy them - either way you lose - the hero was a great update for lower level players who did not bg to the highest levels BEFORE the hero was introduced - adding levels to bg is not the answer either

You're right. hero feature gives you good bonuses for doing BGs :) And it's an incentive for PvE players. However, one may choose to stay without bonuses, and develop in other directions :)

EmperorTrump said:

Hey Plarium, i dont know what u did recently to screw with the BGS but i just took out a lvl 98, 51, 38 and 33 BG and do u know what i got??????  About 350 dragons and 70 occult units!!!!!!!!! BULLLLLLLLSHHHIIIIII.......   I spend WEEKS training before i do bgs and i just threw away massive amounts of wyverns and dragons, paladins and knights ive spent WEEKS training and this is all i got?????  I know how the normal system works, its based off losses. So i melted down the 98, melted down the 51,melted down a lvl 23 Portal QUEST bg, then went and finished the 98. Then i got a CRAPPY reward of 295 dragons for finishing a 98..... Yes 295 dragons after all of that.... so i finished the 51 hoping to get the full payout.. Got 55 dragons.. PFFF, so i said thats still not good enough, let me take out a 38 and see.. Got 37 occult units..  STILL not good enough so i took out a 33 saying OK this time im actually gonna get the "real" payout... NOPE..... Another 33 occult units.... WHAT A LOAD OF HORSE SHIIII!!!! Totally inexcusable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am BEYOND PISSED OFF.... Do u know how much money ive spent on this game and i just got thoroughly ROBBED!!!!!!!  OK, thats the way it is??? Then I wont be spending any more money!!! Have it your way..SO STUPID AND RIDICULOUS CHEATING AND ROBBING A MASSIVE SPENDING CUSTOMER WHO IS AN EXPERT AT BGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  NO EXCUSE FOR THAT LOUSY PAYOUT!!!!!

  Go ahead and check my reports from 8:24 pm EST to 12:35 am EST and tell me do u think thats fair????

Snowgoon said:

EmperorTrump said:

Hey Plarium, i dont know what u did recently to screw with the BGS but i just took out a lvl 98, 51, 38 and 33 BG and do u know what i got??????  About 350 dragons and 70 occult units!!!!!!!!! BULLLLLLLLSHHHIIIIII.......   I spend WEEKS training before i do bgs and i just threw away massive amounts of wyverns and dragons, paladins and knights ive spent WEEKS training and this is all i got?????  I know how the normal system works, its based off losses. So i melted down the 98, melted down the 51,melted down a lvl 23 Portal QUEST bg, then went and finished the 98. Then i got a CRAPPY reward of 295 dragons for finishing a 98..... Yes 295 dragons after all of that.... so i finished the 51 hoping to get the full payout.. Got 55 dragons.. PFFF, so i said thats still not good enough, let me take out a 38 and see.. Got 37 occult units..  STILL not good enough so i took out a 33 saying OK this time im actually gonna get the "real" payout... NOPE..... Another 33 occult units.... WHAT A LOAD OF HORSE SHIIII!!!! Totally inexcusable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am BEYOND PISSED OFF.... Do u know how much money ive spent on this game and i just got thoroughly ROBBED!!!!!!!  OK, thats the way it is??? Then I wont be spending any more money!!! Have it your way..SO STUPID AND RIDICULOUS CHEATING AND ROBBING A MASSIVE SPENDING CUSTOMER WHO IS AN EXPERT AT BGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  NO EXCUSE FOR THAT LOUSY PAYOUT!!!!!

  Go ahead and check my reports from 8:24 pm EST to 12:35 am EST and tell me do u think thats fair????

If you are hitting level 98 bg then you do not want payouts from level 51 etc
Yellowing lower level bg 'might' help towards your main payout, but finishing them is a mistake until after you get your main payout

http://stormfall.playtamin.com/infestations.html

Collecting 645 wyverna and 129 griffins from level 51 would deplete your resource bank which delays your main payout from the level 98

Sending 2.8 million to die at level 98 has always seemed like hard work to me :)

Plarium made some changes to how yellow barring affects the bank a few months ago, so you have to be careful with it now as you can end up with lots of res trapped. 

EmperorTrump said:

Hey Plarium, i dont know what u did recently to screw with the BGS but i just took out a lvl 98, 51, 38 and 33 BG and do u know what i got??????  About 350 dragons and 70 occult units!!!!!!!!! BULLLLLLLLSHHHIIIIII.......   I spend WEEKS training before i do bgs and i just threw away massive amounts of wyverns and dragons, paladins and knights ive spent WEEKS training and this is all i got?????  I know how the normal system works, its based off losses. So i melted down the 98, melted down the 51,melted down a lvl 23 Portal QUEST bg, then went and finished the 98. Then i got a CRAPPY reward of 295 dragons for finishing a 98..... Yes 295 dragons after all of that.... so i finished the 51 hoping to get the full payout.. Got 55 dragons.. PFFF, so i said thats still not good enough, let me take out a 38 and see.. Got 37 occult units..  STILL not good enough so i took out a 33 saying OK this time im actually gonna get the "real" payout... NOPE..... Another 33 occult units.... WHAT A LOAD OF HORSE SHIIII!!!! Totally inexcusable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am BEYOND PISSED OFF.... Do u know how much money ive spent on this game and i just got thoroughly ROBBED!!!!!!!  OK, thats the way it is??? Then I wont be spending any more money!!! Have it your way..SO STUPID AND RIDICULOUS CHEATING AND ROBBING A MASSIVE SPENDING CUSTOMER WHO IS AN EXPERT AT BGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  NO EXCUSE FOR THAT LOUSY PAYOUT!!!!!

  Go ahead and check my reports from 8:24 pm EST to 12:35 am EST and tell me do u think thats fair????

If you are hitting level 98 bg then you do not want payouts from level 51 etc
Yellowing lower level bg 'might' help towards your main payout, but finishing them is a mistake until after you get your main payout

http://stormfall.playtamin.com/infestations.html

Collecting 645 wyverna and 129 griffins from level 51 would deplete your resource bank which delays your main payout from the level 98

Sending 2.8 million to die at level 98 has always seemed like hard work to me :)

Jezebel said:

if you want to be competitive you have to take advantage of all the bonuses you can get - There is no way around it or maybe I just play build a castle instead and forget I even wanted to play a war game 

Well many people have fun in these game, and not all players in these game have made it into the top rankings, or want to. Competition is another aspect of the game, but many others are available. If you like a particular kind of game play master it and stay at it. Most player become unhappy when they get shoveled into a whole different kind of game play, that doesn't suit their play style.

PvP is fun, so is PvE, but I consider them no fun compared to the communication aspect of the game. another player might consider PvE fun, while another prefer to be alone in a league and use his time in the game to build a very beautiful cattle. For as long as you concentrate on your fun you will never go wrong in MMORPG

EmperorTrump said:

Hey Plarium, i dont know what u did recently to screw with the BGS but i just took out a lvl 98, 51, 38 and 33 BG and do u know what i got??????  About 350 dragons and 70 occult units!!!!!!!!! BULLLLLLLLSHHHIIIIII.......   I spend WEEKS training before i do bgs and i just threw away massive amounts of wyverns and dragons, paladins and knights ive spent WEEKS training and this is all i got?????  I know how the normal system works, its based off losses. So i melted down the 98, melted down the 51,melted down a lvl 23 Portal QUEST bg, then went and finished the 98. Then i got a CRAPPY reward of 295 dragons for finishing a 98..... Yes 295 dragons after all of that.... so i finished the 51 hoping to get the full payout.. Got 55 dragons.. PFFF, so i said thats still not good enough, let me take out a 38 and see.. Got 37 occult units..  STILL not good enough so i took out a 33 saying OK this time im actually gonna get the "real" payout... NOPE..... Another 33 occult units.... WHAT A LOAD OF HORSE SHIIII!!!! Totally inexcusable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am BEYOND PISSED OFF.... Do u know how much money ive spent on this game and i just got thoroughly ROBBED!!!!!!!  OK, thats the way it is??? Then I wont be spending any more money!!! Have it your way..SO STUPID AND RIDICULOUS CHEATING AND ROBBING A MASSIVE SPENDING CUSTOMER WHO IS AN EXPERT AT BGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  NO EXCUSE FOR THAT LOUSY PAYOUT!!!!!

  Go ahead and check my reports from 8:24 pm EST to 12:35 am EST and tell me do u think thats fair????

If you are hitting level 98 bg then you do not want payouts from level 51 etc
Yellowing lower level bg 'might' help towards your main payout, but finishing them is a mistake until after you get your main payout

http://stormfall.playtamin.com/infestations.html

Collecting 645 wyverna and 129 griffins from level 51 would deplete your resource bank which delays your main payout from the level 98

Sending 2.8 million to die at level 98 has always seemed like hard work to me :)