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Feb 2, 2016, 20:2502/02/16
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BILSK makes BOLD statement

BILSK leadership fights back by re-naming their castle - impressive show of force I must say.


http://prntscr.com/a1pyt3

http://prntscr.com/a1i44z



Really?


I'm ready to see yet another player get away with a simple slap on the wrist just like the others from the alt league Anarchy Too**  This is another blatent break of the ToS.


Will Plarium ever hold up their end of the ToS?

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Feb 2, 2016, 20:2602/02/16
Dec 29, 2018, 17:11(edited)
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Test I just wanna let you know that you made some enemies in game... Not sure if you knew that or not.
Feb 2, 2016, 20:2702/02/16
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Mehnslayer said:


Test I just wanna let you know that you made some enemies in game... Not sure if you knew that or not.

I have no problem with enemies, just the blatent repeated breaking of the ToS and nothing being done about it.


People should use their troops instead of breaking the rules time and time again.



Need I remind everyone, that this is a WAR game and we're not all supposed to be happy go lucky and frolicking in the sand.  If you hold beacons, expect to play the beacon game.
Feb 2, 2016, 20:2902/02/16
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ah well some people are ego maniacs and need the attention ... so be it ... 
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Kvothe said:

test said:

Mehnslayer said:


Test I just wanna let you know that you made some enemies in game... Not sure if you knew that or not.

I have no problem with enemies, just the blatent repeated breaking of the ToS and nothing being done about it.


People should use their troops instead of breaking the rules time and time again.



Need I remind everyone, that this is a WAR game and we're not all supposed to be happy go lucky and frolicking in the sand.  If you hold beacons, expect to play the beacon game.
Frolicking in the sand can lead to chafing, chafing leads to anger, anger leads to renaming your account and castle interesting names...Don't frolick in the sand, switch to Anarchy.
ha ha sorry but that is very funny :)
Feb 3, 2016, 06:2502/03/16
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HEED MY WORDS!


Please, stop this nonsense immediately. It's gone way too far. Don't you all see it? Currently in my eyes KT and now BILSKIRNIR (at least one person) out of nowhere start to turn against Destiny, not just in-game, but also more personal.

It currently seems to me like a kindergarten where KT and now BILSKIRNIR annoy Destiny by saying inappropriate words and act up like that and Destiny keeps telling the supervisor to tell the other two to stop. At the moment, I feel like being the supervisor and probably some other moderators too. I mean, I'm probably at least half of your age, how even? Just quit it!



About this, I've got nothing else to say that it's inappropriate and childish. Please, quit that!


I know it seems like I'm choosing sides but I am not as the current case is the fact that Destiny seems innocent as far as I've understood it.

Why would you harm the innocent that way, what have they done wrong to you?

Stop this, really. It's got not one reason to continue like this and it won't make it better.

Where's the fun we had 1 year ago? Where'd the peace between the players go whilst we fight our castles? I don't see much messages saying 'Nice hit bud!' anymore. Where'd they go?



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Jezebel said:


ah well some people are ego maniacs and need the attention ... so be it ... 

  As you have found a way to insinuate yourself not once but twice into a topic that is not about you, I say YOU are the Ego Maniac. Unless you think YOU may be the intended "Destiny" of the now infamous  "member."

Try and restrain yourself. No need to reply with another inane comment for attention 

Feb 3, 2016, 08:4202/03/16
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There will always be people childish enough to do things like that. Please do not hesitate to report them so that we can take measures. This particular account has been taken care of. 
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Feb 3, 2016, 08:55(edited)
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Will Plarium ever hold up their end of the ToS?

Yes, we will. But we aren't able to monitor every account, so we deal with them when we find them or when we receive reports. 

Feb 4, 2016, 10:1702/04/16
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Lord Oberon said:


There will always be people childish enough to do things like that. Please do not hesitate to report them so that we can take measures. This particular account has been taken care of. 

http://prntscr.com/9yu9cb


Oberon, how about you compare that castle name to his last one...http://prntscr.com/9y7rxx  No behavior has changed, he just found another "loophole" around your previous warning, even after the last infraction.



I know you said it had been taken care of, but whatever you did, apparently had little to no effect.  Will something actually be done or will people keep getting a gentle slap on the wrist and then be allowed to do the same thing over and over again?

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Tõnis Mering said:


djmoody said:


Seriously dude, you really did break the NAP.

I would ask you to seek out your own truth and ask the captains and large players why they left you league over the last month. A league just doesn't implode like that for no reason.


If my brother touched your wife and you punched him so be it


But mess with his family and we will mess with you

The part your completely confused about is the fact that your "brother" is the LEADER of your family and this "scenario", and he made a written agreement that had pictures along with it stating that he wouldn't touch the "wife" (a group of leagues called the Coralition) in this scenario, and yet he did it not just once, not just twice, but three times.  

And after your brother (the leader minder you) broke his word three times regarding beacons, that put his group of beacons at risk and nulified the NaP that was put in place to protect everyones beacons.


Why do you follow and stand up for someone like that?


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Antediluvian said:

Jezebel said:


ah well some people are ego maniacs and need the attention ... so be it ... 

  As you have found a way to insinuate yourself not once but twice into a topic that is not about you, I say YOU are the Ego Maniac. Unless you think YOU may be the intended "Destiny" of the now infamous  "member."

Try and restrain yourself. No need to reply with another inane comment for attention 

Actually I have every right to make a comment in this regard as I know the player very well.  You have no idea how I am affected by this topic, my history with BILSKIRNIR or this player.
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As for the details of the NAP agreement that was indeed broken by BILSK, I was the one who negotiated it on BILSK's behalf.  As a former Captain of BILSKIRNIR the information is accurate.
Feb 5, 2016, 11:1702/05/16
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Jezebel said:


As for the details of the NAP agreement that was indeed broken by BILSK, I was the one who negotiated it on BILSK's behalf.  As a former Captain of BILSKIRNIR the information is accurate.

So how are you going to 'justify' those planned hits your leaders are working on on a number of leagues who have zero actual interaction with you, and stay right away from you? 


I am looking forward to the fantasy story you will devise out of that one, perhaps I can help you get started on some wonderful verse on how they were planning on taking out all your beacons at once because KT told them to do so, cause like all leagues are just at the direction and utterance of Kt or the Coralition and don't have the ability to think on their own 


And I would not hold you as the fountain of all knowledge and reliability as if you liked Bikskirnir you would still be there and not yourself gleefully hitting them 



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Ogre said:


Jezebel said:


As for the details of the NAP agreement that was indeed broken by BILSK, I was the one who negotiated it on BILSK's behalf.  As a former Captain of BILSKIRNIR the information is accurate.

So how are you going to 'justify' those planned hits your leaders are working on on a number of leagues who have zero actual interaction with you, and stay right away from you? 


I am looking forward to the fantasy story you will devise out of that one, perhaps I can help you get started on some wonderful verse on how they were planning on taking out all your beacons at once because KT told them to do so, cause like all leagues are just at the direction and utterance of Kt or the Coralition and don't have the ability to think on their own 


And I would not hold you as the fountain of all knowledge and reliability as if you liked Bikskirnir you would still be there and not yourself gleefully hitting them 



Ogre, you're making a bunch of statements - do you have the facts to back anything up or are you just another player on the forums that just rambles on with nonsense?


The hits on BILSK were already justified, you need to do some reading so you don't sound so foolish when you speak.


How about you share all of the SS's you have of Jezebel "gleefully" hitting BILSK beacons and all the other players there.


Liking the BILSK membership and disagreeing with BILSK leadership from the top are two very different topics. How has SILVER managed to loose so many captains in such a short time?  Surely when something on that grand of a scale happens, it's probably not "everyone else's" fault.


If any other league on the server were to loose nearly all of it's captains within a month, would that be a sign of respect and stability that the marshal has brought to a league?   I think not...


Ogre, I think you have clearly shown that based on your above comment, you are quite possibly one of the people furthest from the source of "knowledge and reliability".  

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test said:

Lord Oberon said:


There will always be people childish enough to do things like that. Please do not hesitate to report them so that we can take measures. This particular account has been taken care of. 

http://prntscr.com/9yu9cb


Oberon, how about you compare that castle name to his last one...http://prntscr.com/9y7rxx  No behavior has changed, he just found another "loophole" around your previous warning, even after the last infraction.



I know you said it had been taken care of, but whatever you did, apparently had little to no effect.  Will something actually be done or will people keep getting a gentle slap on the wrist and then be allowed to do the same thing over and over again?

Quick follow-up.  His name is still un-changed.
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Ogre said:

Jezebel said:


As for the details of the NAP agreement that was indeed broken by BILSK, I was the one who negotiated it on BILSK's behalf.  As a former Captain of BILSKIRNIR the information is accurate.

So how are you going to 'justify' those planned hits your leaders are working on on a number of leagues who have zero actual interaction with you, and stay right away from you? 


I am looking forward to the fantasy story you will devise out of that one, perhaps I can help you get started on some wonderful verse on how they were planning on taking out all your beacons at once because KT told them to do so, cause like all leagues are just at the direction and utterance of Kt or the Coralition and don't have the ability to think on their own 


And I would not hold you as the fountain of all knowledge and reliability as if you liked Bikskirnir you would still be there and not yourself gleefully hitting them 



Perhaps you should know a bit about me, I did not aid the coralition in those attacks, as a matter of fact I was quite upset about it.  I left BILSKIRNIR not because I disliked them but the inability to maintain a diplomatic relationship that was formed to protect BILSKIRNIR had more to do with it than anything.  I made efforts to protect BILSKIRNIR and those efforts were disregarded.  Why would I stay somewhere and continue, it becomes quite exhausting and when you are no longer happy it is indeed time to move on.  I bear no ill will towards BILSK and hope they can regroup and rebuild and in the future maintain relationships it establishes with other leagues.
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Can someone in a few sentences write what Bilskirnir broke? In stormfall laygrunt terms. If it is secret just inform me of that. I have not been able to deduct it from the texts above. 
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Yes that would be very helpful.

Feb 7, 2016, 16:2002/07/16
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"There was a beacon NAP (Non Aggression pact) between Bilks & GoA/KoC. As part of this they agreed a swap of beacons with GoA/KoC and territory boundaries.

When the beacon spawn didn't go their way Bilks chose to step over the agreed boundaries. "


Okey thank you for this information. Agreement of territory boundaries. Then the beacon drop and it did not fall to Bilskirners favor. So they decided to step over the agreed boundaries and not ask first. 

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mindful said:


"There was a beacon NAP (Non Aggression pact) between Bilks & GoA/KoC. As part of this they agreed a swap of beacons with GoA/KoC and territory boundaries.

When the beacon spawn didn't go their way Bilks chose to step over the agreed boundaries. "


Okey thank you for this information. Agreement of territory boundaries. Then the beacon drop and it did not fall to Bilskirners favor. So they decided to step over the agreed boundaries and not ask first. 

The beacon drop was in favor of both leagues.  The map had 200 beacons, and it spawned another 100 beacons (50% increase) for a total of three rows in the north above both BILSK and GoA.  They both had the same opportunity for Northern growth from where their areas were.


There was a written agreement with a picture addendum that had a very clear verticle line drawn to show who could go where.  GoA was to stick to the West side of the line, and BILSK was supposed to stick the East.  Instead, BILSK went west srtaight above GoA beacons (the West side) and took a couple beacons, and followed it up with league wides to stack and defend them.  A very blatent breach of the NaP which we all signed and agreed to just a few days before (maybe it had been a week by this point) (strike 1)


Then after Jezebel did a ton of work and got the league to reverse SILVER's decison and then worked a ton of diplo with us to explain why we should give them another chance, that was sorted for the time being.  BILSK beacons sorted on the correct side of the NaP agreement and we were back to another attempt at a fresh start.  And a week or 2 later, they took yet another beacon, on the wrong side of the line from German Raiders.  (strike 2)


Then about a month went by and SILVER told me in our group chat that he was about to secure a swap with German Raiders edge beacon which was once again, on the wrong side of the line.  I reminded him that this is the third time he has broken the NaP we all agreed to and that I wanted nothing more to do with any attempts at beacon diplomacy.  (strike 3)


After repeated, blatent disregard for the agreement he made, enough was enough, and we decided to fight with him for territory instead of attempting any further negotiations for a peaceful arragment, since time and time again his actions showed he had no desire to keep his promises.


And as DJ had mentioned above, this is on top of the previous 6 months of issues that had gone on.  And to top it off, nearly their entire leadership had quit the league (which should be a huge warning sign for anyone).  Take a moment and think about your own league, if nearly all of your current captains either quit or are booted, what kind of statement does that make?  


Was it everyone else causing the issues, or is it possible that there might be an issue at the top that all the subordinates could no longer work with?


Hope that makes a bit more sense as to why the issues are there with BILSK.