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Dec 20, 2015, 02:1412/20/15
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Battlegrounds Spreadsheet

For those who have been wishing for a convenient, easy-to-use spreadsheet to help with Stormfall Battlegrounds, the wait is over!  :)  I'm making my battlegrounds spreadsheet publicly available for everyone to use.


The spreadsheet will tell you how to use battlegrounds, how to track your bank balance to get good payouts, and what are the best and most efficient troop types to use.  It will allow you to keep track of all troops bonuses from lost arts, relics, paragon, etc.


I will try to answer questions, but I can't guarantee I'll have much time as I do have a job and a life outside this game, so PLEASE read the instructions in the spreadsheet first!


I hope you find it helpful!.

You can find it at:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ox2mD3Cu2FbVqNdzdDwmQ9qbaSDbHvGhhhgrW12-BU0/edit#gid=1434820704 


Please note that this is a google spreadsheet and is not something you can download.  You'll need to make a copy in your own google drive.


Edit:  I've updated this spreadsheet to version 4.2 with a lot of new changes and error fixes.  The new spreadsheet is at

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WebO4sDFZLlXbz7x6332oheMSNXK2H2LQLw4uJwJf0M/edit#gid=1434820704


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Dec 23, 2015, 09:2612/23/15
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viper_22664 said:

This sounds like exactly what I have been looking for. Shame I don't have Google Drive or Spreadsheets & can't use it.
Maybe it's time to set up a Google account, my Lord?
Dec 24, 2015, 05:5012/24/15
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Well, the good news is that if you really don't feel like getting a Google account, you can wait a while and I'll have the C# version of this done :)  I'm a good chunk of the way done already and the UI is much cleaner and easier to use.  The spreadsheet was just my way of learning how to do the BGs - an easy UI was always my end goal :)
Dec 26, 2015, 04:2112/26/15
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Lord DJMOODY...I respectfully disagree. I don't feel it is dumbing down the game. Rather simply eliminating a laborius mondane task which probably repels more players than it attracts. After all doesen't your financial institutions provide you with statements of your accounts?? You can even access them 24 - 7 online.....just as it should be in this game. And, just as it is now, players who don't understand the mechanics of BG's, won't know what to make of the bank statement. I don't mind working things out for myself if the endevor is worth it but sorry, this is boring & rediculous.


Lord DEVNULLICUS......that sounds fantastic!!! I have constructeed my own sheet but gawd......filling it out makes clearing out a list of BG's a day long event. It is exactly the point I was trying to make with Lord DJMOODY. This would simply eliminate a long ardjous & unecessary task.

Dec 26, 2015, 19:3612/26/15
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On the contrary my lord, this is a great analogy. Again, the existence of a bg bank statement will not make it easier for players to LEARN BG's, only easier to monitor your progresss. Players wanting to learn more about the game come to this forum, which is exactly what the forum is for. Those players who either are not worried about or, simply don't have the time for learning more, won't come to the forum. You remind me of a skilled employee, who is ready for retirement & resents the new guys comming in because you feel they haven't walked the "road of hard knocks" as you have. Most people don't have the time to spend hours, days, or weeks learning the game; as maybe you have. But, that doesn't make the sharing of information, & these forum posts a crime. Am I also to assume, that now, because you seemingly already know everything about the game that you are now bored with it???


Tell you what. Let's take a survey.


Those who agree with Lord DJMOODY's point of view, click the like button under his post.

Those who agree with my point of view, please click the like button under my post.


Thanks everyone & I hope you ALL had a great christmas & have a happy new year.


Dec 27, 2015, 06:0312/27/15
Dec 27, 2015, 06:04(edited)
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viper_22664 said:


OK.....I just thought of another analogy which, hopefully, you may prefer. How would you like going to the grocery store & not getting a receipt for the groceries you just bought??


But, I think the bank analogy is still better because of the "Running Balance" feature with ALL Bank & Credit Accounts.


Oh, I forgot to mention to EVERYONE earlier, if you do share my view & "Like" my previous reply, then don't forget to "Like" Lord DEVNULLICUS's post, along with all of the other  valuable, informative posts in this Forum, for shareing their hard earned knowledge. I for one greatly appreciate your painstaking efforts. I hope you all get some sort of reward, (like free saphires at least) for your efforts.

Fishing for likes is sad...

Most good leagues train their members in how to do bgs properly, so if you're having trouble figuring it out you could try joining a top league. 
Dec 29, 2015, 09:2812/29/15
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So far we see no reasons to do it, so it's a "No" at least for the time being, my Lord.
Dec 29, 2015, 18:5712/29/15
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viper_22664 said:


First off, who on earth, in their right mind & with real life responsibilities, ENJOYS spending days upon weeks developing a calculator for a GAME???


Obviously, you don't understand the mindset of a programmer.  If I didn't enjoy making things like this, I wouldn't have done it.   I, like many programmers, enjoy problem solving, research, and the satisfaction of making something complicated less so by the process of automation.   Besides, programming something that is complicated puts me in that "zone" and is very peaceful for me.  I could have programmed ANYTHING to achieve that inner peace, but I like Stormfall, I was bored and saw a problem that needed automation to make my own life easier.  That's really all it takes to launch any programmer on a months-long quest.



Jan 18, 2016, 07:2401/18/16
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You definitely do not want to download to your local machine and load it in excel as the scripts will not work nor will many of the formulae.  The spreadsheet is only usable on Google Drive.   To do so, simply copy it to your own google drive (via drag drop, ctrl-c/ctrl-v, or however you normally copy files) and open up your copy.  It should ask you if you want to authorize scripts - just answer yes and you should be good to go.


Jan 30, 2016, 11:1801/30/16
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thanks for your work, please consider also huntress

Jan 31, 2016, 21:5201/31/16
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in Units to Send  and Own Units Killed 


Feb 6, 2016, 19:3102/06/16
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I actually did make a stab at adding in rewards from BG tournaments to the ratio calculator, just forgot to mention it in the changes list, I think.  Take a look at the bottom of the bank tab.   Unfortunately, I don't think it's complete yet as I didn't add space for the daily rewards which has a lot more types of things you can get.   It's a work in progress :)


As for copying from 4.0->4.2, that is something I hadn't really thought about until last night.   It's tricky because you don't want to just cut-n-paste areas because the formulas might have changed. 


For the bank page, you can safely cut and paste the following columns "Last Large Payout", "Overflow Killed (Credits)", "Overflow Number Rewarded (Debits)" from "Archer" through "Food".   Be careful though because Reavers and Huntress were added, so you'll have to make sure the old values are in the proper rows on the new spreadsheet.


In order for the bank to be correct, you'll ALSO need to copy the "Previously Accumulated Totals" columns on the Defensive and Offensive BG tabs.  You'll need to grab the rows for "Own Units Killed" and "Rewards" ("Initial Enemy Units" and "Enemy Killed Rows" are optional - they're just fun data to know).  Again, be careful to make sure the values get copied to the correct new rows because of the addition of Reaver and Huntress.


Edit: to more easily determine which places you need to copy, I've modified the 4.2 version to have the cells that you need to copy have a light orange background.

For all other pages, you should just be able to safely copy and paste any cells that have a white background.

I'm not sure if there's a way to automate this - there might be.  I'll give it some thought and see if I can't figure out a way.  For now, those instructions will have to do.





Feb 6, 2016, 20:5502/06/16
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This is extremely helpful and appreciated.  If I may suggest one thing, that would be to automatically populate the troops needed.  It takes me about 5 minutes to manually go to each warrior type and determine the numbers.  Several times I did not have anywhere near the troop type required.  If autoppopulated, I could just glance at the entire list and focus on the missions I could handle.  Still this is a great tool the way it is.  Thank you very much for putting this together...no easy feat.
Feb 7, 2016, 01:1102/07/16
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1DonutBoy:  I do, actually.  On the defensive BGs, you just choose the troop types and it tells you the amount needed and in the Offensive BGs, it tells you how many of the "optimal" troop types you need in the "Number and Cost to Yellow" and "Number and Cost to Kill" rows (35-56)

Jumy: hahaha, yeah, that would work too.  Much easier lol.



Feb 18, 2016, 00:1402/18/16
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Jumy: Hmmm, wouldn't be too hard to add, actually.  I will consider this for next version.


Apr 26, 2016, 14:3404/26/16
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Hmm...interesting !
May 8, 2016, 13:4305/08/16
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This thread needs to be updated for the new bg system plarium coded for. It seems to change on a weekly basis. The bgs are more like a garbage can for troops you are angry at. :(
Jan 9, 2016, 22:4601/09/16
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A dumb ass question. I have Google Drive but haven't done much with it at all. How do I get the linked spreadsheet into my Drive? Is it just copy and paste or should there be a button somewhere that I'm not seeing?

Thanks for any help with this.


Rosco.

Jan 5, 2016, 14:1101/05/16
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Simplest way to do bg is yellowing/banking during exp tourney and finish em during bg tourney. Long term investment is long lol.
Jan 5, 2016, 00:0101/05/16
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donw4350 said:

I am new here and I don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Then maybe you should try playing the game....
Dec 30, 2015, 12:1312/30/15
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Well put, Lord DJMoody. Stormfall may seem casual and can attract casual players, but it's actually a hardcore and challenging game that requires dedication and effort. We at Plarium truly admire our top players and leagues for their persistence and loyalty to Stormfall. The amount of work some Stormfallers put into the game in incredible. 

who on earth, in their right mind & with real life responsibilities, ENJOYS spending days upon weeks developing a calculator for a GAME???

Everything is real life. And more people than you think, my Lord.And we are happy to provide them with the opportunity to utilize their problem solving abilities, while playing the game and having fun with their league mates.