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Jan 3, 2017, 23:5001/03/17
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Top Raiders Competition Destroyed

Last week, someone who has never been a top 10 player comfortably took #1 by an unprecedented margin because 19 hours before the raid week ended, he got an extra 10 raiding slots before the week ended. He got this because his heg of a 10 member coa knew to plan to get 15 extra raiding slots per day when the capture the flag tournament was announced AFTER the raiding week had already started. 

This week, here is the current top 100 raid for those whose coa gets no extra raid slots because of the Capture the Flag tourney

44: Rastaman34, Fr-Olympia

45: Q-Power LOP, Association

55: DjiroccoTheGreat1, House of Batiatus

56: M10, Crimson Tide

59: Roy Mah, Ouroboros

60: Phil The Greatest, Association

68: Pauwe, Empire of Batiatus

69: Butcher Tai Pan, Ouroboros

72: Sarath, Indians

73: Alv, Leg-XIII-Gemini

75: Thix59310, Les Anges Ténébreux

76: Pinas, Hellenic Front

78: Bowerman, Tomahawk

80: Archimedes, Retribution

83: Pontios, EΛΛAΣ

84: SHFO2461, House of Hercules

85: Maximilian IFS, Lost Souls

86: Katahdin, House of Batiatus

89: Costas, Crimson Tide

90: Stronghold, Commander-in-Chief

92: Ianescu, Les Anges Ténébreux

94: Philippe, L-S Black Region

96: Ray, Veterans

Roy and Q-Power are on the all-time top 10 raiding list. M10, Butcher Thai Pan are all-time top 20 and DjiroccoTheGeat1, Maximillian IFS, Costos and Phil The Greatest are in all-time top 100 raiders list. 

Within 2 days, that list will probably be no more than 10, (mostly from the all-time top 100) and by the end of the raiding week, perhaps the all-time raid rank champion Roy Mah will be the only one on it.

The following week, those people who on

Lost Souls Alpha, Germanicus Cultus 1, Guerilla, Wikinger, Deedz, Parabellum, Legion A Rios, Terminators, Kracken, Band of Killerz, Himmel- & Höllenblut, Schwarz Rot Gold, Hungarians, Thanatos2 ITA, German Sharks, Non Nobis Nobine, Havoc, Zerberus, Maelstrom, Roma Antica, Bushi Fr/Belgium, Kings of the North, Sparta Warriors, Expendables, Themistocles, Zorn Gottes

who have extra raid slots this week (that list is ranked in order of number of raiding slots, and secondarily by coalition rank) will realize they can stop raiding 48 hours before the new week stops and have 5, 10 or 15 extra raiding slots over all the others for the following week. So they will distort the top raiding list too.

Then the week after that, Plarium will have yet another Capture the Flag tourney, which will add raiding slots to the LUCKY raid rankers near the end of that raiding week, distorting the results like it did last week.

And if unchanged, this cycle of not caring how the game is affected, will continue.

Plarium,
if you want to have this weird week of extra unlevel raid ranking, do not allow new raiding slots to start until the new week starts for top raiders (or any other ranking). And remove ALL extra raiding slots awarded during that week, if they remain by the time a raid first LANDS on the following week. Then you can have your week of crazy raiding results once every 3 weeks though I would call it crazy raiding and not count it towards the all-time raiding totals since you are clearly lumping together apples and oranges and calling them both raiding.


Raiders,

Your mission raider, should you choose to accept it:

look at the above info and that is your new rules for how you have a prayer at being competitive. You must either be in the top 10 of your capture the flag league or somehow keep your capital's flag at whatever cost, and then get at least 1 buff for +5 raiding slots. Though to seriously be competitive in the top 10, you will need 3 buffs dedicated to raiding. Don't worry about debuffs because your extra raiding slots can't be debuffed.

You will need a REALLY LARGE list of cities to raid because the maximum number of raids per week increased by more than double. There will be massive overgrazing of farms, sieged dead cities, high level botlines.

As always, should you or any of your Impossible Mission Force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. This message will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck raider.

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Jan 4, 2017, 06:4101/04/17
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hmmm I hadnt noticed this


a good incentive to perform well in the CTF tournament if you have people who are top raid specialists then :) 
Jan 4, 2017, 10:5301/04/17
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Well I have buffed my coalition..I've used 3 buffs and gave +15raids to my coalition members..so max 25 raids each player
They get 1 raid per hour,

Jan 4, 2017, 10:5601/04/17
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Hi! Our raiding mechanics won't allow us to remove Raid attempts from players, and we also do not interfere in game process, so we won't change this part. If you suspect there's a bug, please submit a report to our Support Team, and they will check it throughoughly. 
Jan 4, 2017, 11:3601/04/17
Jan 4, 2017, 12:04(edited)
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

"we also do not interfere in game process, so we won't change this part"


You (Plarium) interfered big time by adding raiding slots to a handful of people in the final hours of a week long competition. That's called changing the rules midstream.

Jan 4, 2017, 11:4401/04/17
Jan 4, 2017, 11:45(edited)
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morteeee said:


hmmm I hadnt noticed this


a good incentive to perform well in the CTF tournament if you have people who are top raid specialists then :) 

No, it is a disincentive. The only top raid ranker I know of who likes this change made his own coalition which is exclusively for raid rankers.

All the rest think it stinks and are considering giving up because far less skilled people can pass them by like they were standing still, merely because their coa happened to have a situation that favored this particular buff over the buffs favored by the overwhelming number of coalitions.

If you are an employee there do some metrics (or get an employee there to do it). Look at the people who have been competing frequently in raid ranking, or just take a look at the top 100 all time and watch how much less they are raiding now and likely will continue. You will see a major drop in engagement.You may also see a significant drop in revenue from them between pre-capture the flag tourney and now.

In fact that kind of metric should be studied whenever you do a major change to the game (e.g. Pan Massacre). If you're most engaged users (80/20 rule...20% of the people spend 80% of the money), are spending less money after a major change to the game, you messed up on your most valuable metric... your bottom line.


Jan 5, 2017, 10:4201/05/17
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jeffwinchell said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

"we also do not interfere in game process, so we won't change this part"


You (Plarium) interfered big time by adding raiding slots to a handful of people in the final hours of a week long competition. That's called changing the rules midstream.

If you notice any abnormalities, please report them to Support. We do not add Raid attempts to anyone. they can only be gained through gameplay within current limits.
Jan 5, 2017, 11:4701/05/17
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who cares about raiding ranks anyway
Jan 5, 2017, 14:3201/05/17
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Vodkaonice said:

who cares about raiding ranks anyway
It's a good chance to receive some extra rewards :)
Jan 5, 2017, 21:2201/05/17
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


jeffwinchell said:


Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

"we also do not interfere in game process, so we won't change this part"


You (Plarium) interfered big time by adding raiding slots to a handful of people in the final hours of a week long competition. That's called changing the rules midstream.

If you notice any abnormalities, please report them to Support. We do not add Raid attempts to anyone. they can only be gained through gameplay within current limits.

You are playing word games here. ("We do not add Raid attempts")

You changed the rules to add raid slots.That is clear to anyone. 
This entire post is about an abnormality. But it clear that Plarium does not share that opinion. And that Plarium will continue this practice and not take seriously the complaints of their customers in this regard. 


Jan 6, 2017, 11:2801/06/17
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jeff said:


You are playing word games here. ("We do not add Raid attempts")

You changed the rules to add raid slots.That is clear to anyone. 
This entire post is about an abnormality. But it clear that Plarium does not share that opinion. And that Plarium will continue this practice and not take seriously the complaints of their customers in this regard. 


If you mean attempts added by a buff after the Capture the Flag Tournament, it's a good incentive for Coalitions to participate and place in TOP Rankings. As it can actually give you some benefits.
Jan 9, 2017, 18:5001/09/17
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its not that hard to capture flags if you hunt around and do some research on the coalitions in your tier then you can also buff your raids 
Jan 23, 2017, 17:1201/23/17
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As  I predicted two weeks ago, raid ranking is now destroyed. Only one player is bothering with it. The #2 and #3 raid total from last week is the lowest number in 6 months. Maybe more (since I only started this game about 6 months ago).

Congrats Plarium for killing that competition with your capture the flag tourney and completely ignoring what I said in my opening message in this thread.

And feel free to ban me from this forum for this message that the emporer is wearing no clothes. I don't care.


Jan 24, 2017, 10:3501/24/17
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jeffwinchell said:

As  I predicted two weeks ago, raid ranking is now destroyed. Only one player is bothering with it. The #2 and #3 raid total from last week is the lowest number in 6 months. Maybe more (since I only started this game about 6 months ago).

Congrats Plarium for killing that competition with your capture the flag tourney and completely ignoring what I said in my opening message in this thread.

And feel free to ban me from this forum for this message that the emporer is wearing no clothes. I don't care.


Coalition buffs don't kill the competition, they give you some extra opportunities. If you find them so attractive, fight for them :)
Jan 27, 2017, 08:5301/27/17
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Dorieas said:


Anyway back to the those flag tournaments: I believe they destroy raid ranking,, Now after our 5 consecutive victorious weeks on the Top 1, suddendly a double strike from Plarium: A new Flag Tournament and return raid bugs to the game..They start restore our opponents raids.. 


As I said, we do not restore players' raid attempts. After applying a buff for additional Raid attempts, players can raid even more Resources, but it doesn't mean that we're restoring something for them. If you notice any abnormalities, you can report them to our Support Team.
Jan 27, 2017, 21:0401/27/17
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things change


this is the way of the world 


adapt and the rewards will be greater for you 


take part in the CTF competitions and apply the buffs wisely and your members can easily reach teh top again 
Jan 28, 2017, 22:3301/28/17
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Unfortunately raid bugs, start again.. It ll be a great victory for you Pontios if you stay on top 3 under those conditions.. You focus to your raids.. Cos you ll be the youngest lvl is writing history with golden letters in the chronicles of raid ranking on Sparta.. And the victory it ll be blue and white, like the Aegean Sea and Cycladic complex islands architectonic, if 3 Greeks (Pontios, Fokeas, John) be on the top 3...

Jan 31, 2017, 00:2901/31/17
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I want to say a thank you to Pontios for the trip we had together on raid ranking,,, Unfortunately for him, raid bugs they dont let him to join the top 3... Pontios he ll return to his coal ΕΛΛΑΣ to train his members what he learn that two weeks he join us.. I hope he ll be a good trainer and a wise Pol or Hedge I can cooperate with him in the future... 

We the Guerilla coal we are always pleasure to him for the moments he share with us... Have a nice gaming Pontios... A true Spartan warrior...
Jan 31, 2017, 04:1401/31/17
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I also agree with Roy Mah that abuse of instant recalls to exploit another plarium design bug has gone overboard and made raiders less focused to boot. But I don't see Plarium doing anything about that because it gives them a bit more revenue.


So, folks, if you want to be top 3, the ante was upped, even before the capture the flag debacle.. you need to spend drachs on instant recalls or you can fugget about it.


I just wonder if raid ranking will ever be actual raiding, like the world understands that word... and be hitting live cities instead of various forms of farming. But I digress...
Jan 31, 2017, 12:2001/31/17
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Dorieas said:

I want to say a thank you to Pontios for the trip we had together on raid ranking,,, Unfortunately for him, raid bugs they dont let him to join the top 3... Pontios he ll return to his coal ΕΛΛΑΣ to train his members what he learn that two weeks he join us.. I hope he ll be a good trainer and a wise Pol or Hedge I can cooperate with him in the future... 

We the Guerilla coal we are always pleasure to him for the moments he share with us... Have a nice gaming Pontios... A true Spartan warrior...
I'm touched by your words! Wish all players recognised the true worth of a player! Nice Dorieas! 
Jan 31, 2017, 12:4501/31/17
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twitt4 said:

I also agree with Roy Mah that abuse of instant recalls to exploit another plarium design bug has gone overboard and made raiders less focused to boot. But I don't see Plarium doing anything about that because it gives them a bit more revenue.


So, folks, if you want to be top 3, the ante was upped, even before the capture the flag debacle.. you need to spend drachs on instant recalls or you can fugget about it.


I just wonder if raid ranking will ever be actual raiding, like the world understands that word... and be hitting live cities instead of various forms of farming. But I digress...
Last I checked you can't blame someone for using their drachs to recall their troops in order to gain raids and get a higher position in Top 10. 
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