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Nov 15, 2016, 22:2211/15/16
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EXTREME COINERS ARE CHEATS.

Well congratulations Plarium, you have done more to damage your own reputation than anyone could believe possible, not to mention push away many players, a number of who have been playing for some considerable time. It is clear that you prefer to favour the 'extreme' coiners who buy big in order to boost themselves to the top of the leadership board without putting in the hard work of building their city, watching it develop, making many new friends along the way and enjoying the teamwork and camaraderie that strangers rarely share. The whole game is weighed heavily in favour of such coiners as can be seen in the changes that have recently been implemented. I have witnessed extreme coiners bully genuine players over and over and over and so on, all of this allowed by Plarium as they don't want to scare Mr Moneybags away, the Mr Moneybags with no real life or friends as can be seen by his severe lack of social skills, a coward who craves power but can only get it by paying for it. He is a coward in real life who thinks he is tough but when it comes to the crunch he pees his pants and runs for the hills. This is the new breed of Consumer that Plarium want to be associated with. Well congratulations again. Remember that when your coiners get fed up with the game too, especially when there is no one left to bully and desert you too.
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Nov 16, 2016, 14:0211/16/16
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Each and every player in Sparta: War of Empires can reach TOP positions. That, however, requires a lot of time, Resources, Units, and considerable effort. Alternatively, you can use a special Resource - Drachmas - to develop your City and increase military power to dominate the map. Everyone can get Drachmas for free simply playing the game actively, i.e. participating in Tournaments, capturing Emporia, completing quests and Achievements, etc.

Some players decide in favor of in-app purchases to save time. It allows them to progress a little faster. Sparta: War of Empires is free-to-play, and like any other game of this type it gives all players free access to all game features and an opportunity to accelerate their progress with in-app purchases. It is not unfair that players taking this route, thus supporting the development of the game, enjoy certain advantages. Again, all these advantages may be summarized in one word - time. It takes less time to advance, but does not change the core of what every player needs to do to develop their City and grow military power. Moreover, there is a number of in-game limits so no one player can dominate an entire server. Therefore, when we develop a new feature, we make sure it will not negatively affect the game balance.

Yet another thing to consider is the social aspect of our games, which is extremely important. We want our players to unite in Coalitions and build Alliances to become stronger. We understand that it is hard to compete against stronger players -- it has always been, in any game -- and that is why we pay so much attention to various Coalition activities and give players an opportunity to unite against a stronger enemy. If you have any suggestions as to how this part of the game can be improved, we will be happy to hear from you.


Nov 16, 2016, 20:1611/16/16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Each and every player in Sparta: War of Empires can reach TOP positions. That, however, requires a lot of time, Resources, Units, and considerable effort. Alternatively, you can use a special Resource - Drachmas - to develop your City and increase military power to dominate the map. Everyone can get Drachmas for free simply playing the game actively, i.e. participating in Tournaments, capturing Emporia, completing quests and Achievements, etc.

Some players decide in favor of in-app purchases to save time. It allows them to progress a little faster. Sparta: War of Empires is free-to-play, and like any other game of this type it gives all players free access to all game features and an opportunity to accelerate their progress with in-app purchases. It is not unfair that players taking this route, thus supporting the development of the game, enjoy certain advantages. Again, all these advantages may be summarized in one word - time. It takes less time to advance, but does not change the core of what every player needs to do to develop their City and grow military power. Moreover, there is a number of in-game limits so no one player can dominate an entire server. Therefore, when we develop a new feature, we make sure it will not negatively affect the game balance.

Yet another thing to consider is the social aspect of our games, which is extremely important. We want our players to unite in Coalitions and build Alliances to become stronger. We understand that it is hard to compete against stronger players -- it has always been, in any game -- and that is why we pay so much attention to various Coalition activities and give players an opportunity to unite against a stronger enemy. If you have any suggestions as to how this part of the game can be improved, we will be happy to hear from you.


well alyona not sure what is top for you but top off and top def are coiners only...and not talking small coiners...but like few k $ per month coiners...even if you build you can kill your troops once..but coiner can do that until he ran out of money...so nice lies alyona appreciated :)
Nov 28, 2016, 14:1311/28/16
Nov 30, 2016, 00:40(edited)
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There are many players who don't coin yet they have strong army. You need to play smart in order to do that and be cautious of course. You need to build troops 24/7 if you want to have a strong army. But in order to be able to build 24/7 you need to raid every day, to get resources and build troops  continuously. You need to be patient so you can level up the buildings and the agreements while you build troops at the same time. That requires resources. Without raiding you can't have resources to do all those things. Once you level up the agreements and the buildings you will be building troops 24/7 and believe me you can build quite some offense or defense in a month let's say.

Nov 29, 2016, 01:1511/29/16
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Xena said:

There are many players who don't coin yet they have strong army. You need to play smart in order to do that and be cautious of course. You need to build troops 24/7 if you want to have a strong army. But in order to be able to build 24/7 you need to raid every day, to get resources and build troops  continuously. You need to be patient so you can level up the buildings and the agreements while you build troops at the same time. That requires resources. Without raiding you can't have resources to do all those things. Once you level up the agreements and the buildings you will be building troops 24/7 and believe me you can build quite some offense or defense in a month let's say.

How do you know that these 'many' players are not coiners? Do you ask them? How many genuine players have made it to the top of the leader board? Plarium are not only encouraging cheating as can be seen from their response above, they are blatantly rewarding it, not to mention feeding gaming addiction. Plarium are greedy. They take money yet there is nothing to be seen for it. Glitches are still there months on, issues are not resolved etc. Look around you at all the dead cities. Even those that were at higher levels have quit for those reasons listed. Its time Plarium took some pride in itself and made this game fair for all. Server 1 for coiners and server 2 for real gamers.
Nov 30, 2016, 01:1611/30/16
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Xena said:


There are many players who don't coin yet they have strong army. You need to play smart in order to do that and be cautious of course. You need to build troops 24/7 if you want to have a strong army. But in order to be able to build 24/7 you need to raid every day, to get resources and build troops  continuously. You need to be patient so you can level up the buildings and the agreements while you build troops at the same time. That requires resources. Without raiding you can't have resources to do all those things. Once you level up the agreements and the buildings you will be building troops 24/7 and believe me you can build quite some offense or defense in a month let's say.

Play smart meaning don't use your troops at all because one wrong move and your all done playing Sparta LOLOLOL



Nov 30, 2016, 11:4211/30/16
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RIX said:


Play smart meaning don't use your troops at all because one wrong move and your all done playing Sparta LOLOLOL



Why so pessimistic, Rix? 
Nov 30, 2016, 15:4011/30/16
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I didn't say not use your army at all. But no matter how strong you are you always need to be cautious. And play smart as I mentioned before. You don't have to use your whole army to attack someone for example cause if there is a trap there it's reasonable to lose your whole army. That's why it is imporant to follow some crucial steps. For example never attack somewhere if you don't have a report of what's in there first. And even if you decide to go blind use inferior units (such as light and heavy infantry). That way you will protect your superior ones. 
Nov 30, 2016, 23:0811/30/16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


RIX said:



Play smart meaning don't use your troops at all because one wrong move and your all done playing Sparta LOLOLOL



Why so pessimistic, Rix? 

Because you are implementing tactics in this game that cause two issues:


1) Too time consuming

2) Forcing peoples hands at losing troops

Not everyone wants to participate in forced PVP events like capital flag and pan massacre.


Dec 1, 2016, 10:1312/01/16
Dec 1, 2016, 10:15(edited)
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RIX said:

1) Too time consuming

2) Forcing peoples hands at losing troops

Not everyone wants to participate in forced PVP events like capital flag and pan massacre.

I understand your point :) However, that's one of the purposes of that Tournaments - to get players involved.  So no longer sitting in the Acropolis, but fighting with Rivals for something new - Buffs (Capture the Flag), opportunity to get a higher Rank (Massacre).
Dec 1, 2016, 16:0012/01/16
Dec 1, 2016, 16:01(edited)
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The reason people sit in acropolis more often is because rewards are so poor, and they can't build army fast enough to keep up with avalanche of tournaments. In order to actually build decent army without breaking the bank means you cannot chuck big forces around like a lunatic every week. Plus, the same old food regurgitated dulls your appetite, whether it's pans, caps, cities or emporium it's still principle of raids and sieges. Plarium's answer to this is not to increase rewards as encouragement, but to have forced participation tournaments instead.

Dec 2, 2016, 06:4712/02/16
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Why are they cheats? Don't call them cheats because you are poor, seriously. That is nobody else' problem except your own.
Dec 4, 2016, 20:0812/04/16
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Real gamers compete in EQUAL conditions. Purchasing advantages with money is just money doping.
Dec 4, 2016, 20:1412/04/16
Dec 5, 2016, 12:24(edited)
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Didn't you receive this message?   I am sure that Plarium is happy with this. Good aprentices.


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[15:38] Friend: We have launched new services to give you that edge over the competition! We now offer resources, agreements, 50 friends for your Hall of Xenia, Defense or Attack for Pantheons and MUCH more! Always 5-10 times cheaper than purchasing it in-game, and as always, you pay AFTER you receive what you order.

NEW REFERRAL PROGRAM!



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Dec 5, 2016, 12:2512/05/16
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el_bardera said:


Didn't you receive this message?   I am sure that Plarium is happy with this. Good aprentices.


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[15:38] Friend: We have launched new services to give you that edge over the competition! We now offer resources, agreements, 50 friends for your Hall of Xenia, Defense or Attack for Pantheons and MUCH more! Always 5-10 times cheaper than purchasing it in-game, and as always, you pay AFTER you receive what you order.

NEW REFERRAL PROGRAM!



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Please report the sender to our Support Team, they will take the necessary measures.

Thank you.
Dec 9, 2016, 05:3512/09/16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


You can't purchase a victory in a game. Especially in the game where a social aspect is so important. We want our players to unite in Coalitions and build Alliances to become stronger. We understand that it is hard to compete against stronger players -- it has always been, in any game -- and that is why we pay so much attention to various Coalition activities and give players an opportunity to unite against a stronger enemy. If you have any suggestions as to how this part of the game can be improved, we will be happy to hear from you.

Alyona, I generally agree, but ...

I have no problem with people spending money to gain an advantage in the game.

However, you cannot have a very strong player power roll over a capital's defense of a smaller coalition. In PvP, you can hide in Acropolis and pick your fights. With Pantheons, it is your choice to hold them - they are a luxury. Capitals, however, are part of every coalition, and it does not make sense for smaller coalitions to not be able to defend their investment.

There are many players around with 100 million to 1 billion in offense, who simply do not care about money. You have to have some protection in place for smaller coalitions to not get a big chunk of their coalition defense wiped. What do you want them to do, risk their troops in a big way / point-less battle from their perspective, or rather ignore the capital?

This should be fixed, no doubt in my mind about it.

Simplest is just to disallow attacks based on a maximum level difference of capitals between attacking and defending players, and/or tweak coalition achievements to remove such incentives.

Dec 9, 2016, 10:3012/09/16
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tsunwu85rsa said:



Alyona, I generally agree, but ...

I have no problem with people spending money to gain an advantage in the game.

However, you cannot have a very strong player power roll over a capital's defense of a smaller coalition. In PvP, you can hide in Acropolis and pick your fights. With Pantheons, it is your choice to hold them - they are a luxury. Capitals, however, are part of every coalition, and it does not make sense for smaller coalitions to not be able to defend their investment.

There are many players around with 100 million to 1 billion in offense, who simply do not care about money. You have to have some protection in place for smaller coalitions to not get a big chunk of their coalition defense wiped. What do you want them to do, risk their troops in a big way / point-less battle from their perspective, or rather ignore the capital?

This should be fixed, no doubt in my mind about it.

Simplest is just to disallow attacks based on a maximum level difference of capitals between attacking and defending players, and/or tweak coalition achievements to remove such incentives.

Hi, tsunwu86rsa!

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I agree, smaller Coalitions also must have a chance to get benefits from different game features. It was one of the reasons why we introduced the Capitals - small Coalitions could not hold Pantheons, but were asking for the same advantages as the bigger players. Coalition Capital was a feature that gave them something that could not be taken away from them, so they could develop it and engage their members. 

We also introduced a safe level for players who cannot protect their Capital from attacks, but still want to receive bonuses.

However, we are not planning to limit player interactions. We gave all Coalitions a chance, but we can't protect them from others. All players are in equal conditions, and they all need to play wisely :)

Dec 10, 2016, 01:3912/10/16
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Xena said:

I didn't say not use your army at all. But no matter how strong you are you always need to be cautious. And play smart as I mentioned before. You don't have to use your whole army to attack someone for example cause if there is a trap there it's reasonable to lose your whole army. That's why it is imporant to follow some crucial steps. For example never attack somewhere if you don't have a report of what's in there first. And even if you decide to go blind use inferior units (such as light and heavy infantry). That way you will protect your superior ones. 
I wasn't talking about fair gaming, I was talking literally of pay large coiners as in having no real life to live.
Dec 15, 2016, 12:3012/15/16
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Tonaya said:


if 10 players here,telling same thing,and only you,mortee,and xena(all moderators)telling different,who is right then?10 players who play game every day 2 years,or you,moderators,who selling us stuff on price and conditions you make?its monopoly and its good only for you,from plarium's side 
Tonaya 

maybe you have some suggestions, Tonaya? :)
Dec 16, 2016, 10:2812/16/16
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Well there are 2 major issues with this game (+ a lot of minor ones) compared to other browser games :

1. You can buy you troops directly at the market in huge number. Few games allow you to buy some troops but in very small and limited number. In sparta you can just buy your entire army without ever producing any soldier. Also, some elite troops like Cataphractos can only be purchased in the market. In the end it makes a very large gap between regular players and heavy coiners.

2. Players were dumb enough to ask plarium to remove the grain thing i.e > a while ago your troops left if you didn't have enough grain to pay their upkeep which made sense. Back then, it forced the players to raid neighbours to get grain (then you wouldn't complain about getting too much grain from raids). I don't remember if troops on pantheons were exempted from this rule but anyway it would be nice to have this mecanism back which is never gonna happen.


Also, all games have some stuff you can buy to speed up your game but they keep it limited so the gap between players is made either by skill, knowledge or time spent on the game. Here, it's all about money. 

You could spend 20h/day and know everything about Sparta > you would never catch up with a guy who just comes here 30 minutes a day to buy expensive packages every day, load his warehouses upgraded with sketches, produce all the troops he can + buy some champs, speed that prod with 1 day boosts, then goes to persians and hit lvl 100+ with all he's got > then revives and start again the day after ; 

Dec 16, 2016, 14:1412/16/16
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Tonaya said:


if 10 players here,telling same thing,and only you,mortee,and xena(all moderators)telling different,who is right then?10 players who play game every day 2 years,or you,moderators,who selling us stuff on price and conditions you make?its monopoly and its good only for you,from plarium's side 
Tonaya 
Tonaya I am a daily and active player for almost 3 years now. I've been playing since the first week of the game. But I don't see your point with that. There are many players who have been playing the game since the beginning yet I haven't seen them complaining. You have an opinion, we have our own doesn't mean yours is right and ours is wrong or vice versa. It's good expressing your opinion but when you complain all the time that's a whole different thing.