Bill I believe you to be  one of the best moderators on here    thanks for the  good answers you give back.    I do have question for you though,  im not complaining   just wanted some clarification.

You say that unless  you have good solid proof,     what would that be for you/plarium?    I know what these guys are talking about,  so I just want to know what we need to show to you when this happens.

   Two bugs I have found while playing pp.

1.    play so much  the game cuts you off and you lose everything.   This usually happens  by  being flashed a white screen  when you send your finale attack.    

2.    Another   glitch I have found  is that every now and again  I can hit the left arrow key  and the game screen moves to the left and Im presented with a black screen,   once here I can hit my right arrow key and it will go back to show me my troops    that Im about to send to battle.    

Both of these scenarios I see   when I lose 20 mil-30 mil army.     I can go on with two more examples  of glitches  on pp   but they are a little more technical  and don’t want to type it out just yet.    

Thanks for what you say PMC.

As Dimitri explained perfectly why you've these problems I don't have much more to say.   

For your first situation, yes it's due to an overload of memory, if you play for a long time without disconnecting, the page will eventually freeze, sometimes display a flash player error or other error message and you will have to refresh to continue. If this happens especially when you perform an important action, I think (this does not reflect the opinion of plarium) that it's because you're about to take an action that requires a lot of "resources" to your computer. It takes a lot of memory at once, and added to the previous actions .. he fart... again, it's just a personal opinion.

It's complicated to explain in writing, do you see what I mean ?

It takes very strong evidence such as winning on a level 170 every time, and while doing the same thing on a level 175, we do not win anything. I personally think that the higher the levels, the more you have to be precise in your repayments.   

I add that those who do levels 190 are generally very developed in their treatises, the units are often very powerful. Take this into account when attacking.

All this must be proven by accurate calculations and screenshots.

thanks  for  the reply.    just wondering  what  a glitch is to this/plarium server.     and from what you are saying  hitting a position and getting no reward has never happened to me, but i once cleared out  about 90 positions  in a row 1-140.    and received  no reward  over 100 units per position.

this has to be a glitch.    no way  that in 90 positions your total rewards  equal less than 1000 phalanx each  def and off   with 500  def cav. with this many positions  cleared all players  should come across  at least  three  12-28 mil payouts.   i even submitted a ticket    and was given the same response.   "nothing wrong here" 

how is this not a glitch?  i was even using calculator  to make  my attacks  accurate  to + one extra unit.

  but i guess  we are only talking about level 170-180.

Dimitri Molchanov said:

PMC said:

thanks  for  the reply.    just wondering  what  a glitch is to this/plarium server.     and from what you are saying  hitting a position and getting no reward has never happened to me, but i once cleared out  about 90 positions  in a row 1-140.    and received  no reward  over 100 units per position.

this has to be a glitch.    no way  that in 90 positions your total rewards  equal less than 1000 phalanx each  def and off   with 500  def cav. with this many positions  cleared all players  should come across  at least  three  12-28 mil payouts.   i even submitted a ticket    and was given the same response.   "nothing wrong here" 

how is this not a glitch?  i was even using calculator  to make  my attacks  accurate  to + one extra unit.

  but i guess  we are only talking about level 170-180.

Persian Position mechanics do not necessarily work how players imagine them to. If there is such disparity between expectations and results, then there is an error in calculations somewhere - player calculations. Reconsider, adjust, overcome is the best strategy you can take here.

heheheh   that is what I have been doing  with only lights and  heavies   : )  no more cav and phalanx.  as long it is lights    there is no way I can be let again.!!!!    thanks    for reply

PMC said:

heheheh   that is what I have been doing  with only lights and  heavies   : )  no more cav and phalanx.  as long it is lights    there is no way I can be let again.!!!!    thanks    for reply

I know that many players only use Light and Heavy Infantry to "convert" them into higher tier units through Positions and it works out well for them, so it's definitely one of the viable strategies 

Now I want to know who's fooling you or Dimitri or Bill? one said he checks or said he does not check anyone's PP !!! who is Pinoquio or do not know what they say ... I know that in many games I played there are weak and unprepared moderators

you checked VODKA RED BULL's pp bank,vodka is VIP,and you checked pp bank for that player above,i can post screenshots where you checked vodka's pp bank,and when i ask for it,i get NO answer as always.

something is really wrong with my pp ,i would like you to check it and tell me how much i'm in?

Tonaya 

Dimitri Molchanov said:

There has never been a need to check Persian Position records, and we do not do that unless there is good reason to believe that something has indeed gone wrong. Truth is, it is a recurring accusation that some players make after failing to achieve the goal that they have set for themselves in pursuing PP. 

I have to agree with moderator here as well,   DIMITRI  unfortunately you are about the last part,  I being guilty of same accusations,  

if you are not playing  with massive amounts of lights  or heavies   you will always get robbed  or short changed on reward.  and this is the problem everyone is  having.  you need  100k X 5 or 10 in lights to get good payouts worth having.   other wise you will just be trading phlanx and cav    for phalanx and cav.  or  what plarium would say playing for points.   and eventually payouts stop coming and you are left with nothing.   also I am guilty of this as well   and have lost  3 bil in power  playing pp,  or  I gained  a  lot of points  and  added  general gear.     

I even think  that  their was a change  to not tax you on troops you sent to position  if you miss calculate and send to much or to many units.   now it only charges you the power needed to win by strongest force sent.    it used to punish me way more  6 months ago.

btw  if you only play with lights and heavies, 1) you keep all rewards given. 2) you don't need drachma to revive  only for boost.  3) while playing pp you lose nothing worth keeping any ways.    4) 98% of all positions are set to attacked or defended by lights and heavies so  you will be hitting for weakest force needed to win, thus saving you overall power  as you play for smaller points   general gear  and so on.

None of your posts have been removed in this topic and if by chance you notice these actions on other topics, ask yourself whether you follow the rules of the forum. Myself and other plarium representatives don't delete messages for nothing.

I myself took the initiative to check through other plarium representatives, the account of a player, and we could observe that there was a wrong approach to PP. Accounts are never checked otherwise unless, as Dimitri explained, there is good reason to think that there is a problem. The fact is that you attack and don't win, that doesn't mean that the system doesn't work.

You have the right to think that the PP system is deliberately skewed while we tell you the opposite. But nobody forces you to continue playing PP, although this is an exciting part of the game !

A good strategy gives good results, look on the official pages of Sparta, you will see big gains, which prove that the highest levels are not impossible.

Finally, anyone can see their verified account, not just VIP.

ok I have a question,   and  there is really no complaint  from me about what I have lost here.    as I know very well  how PLARIUM operates.

I tried  to see  what everyone was complaining about at the 190 reward.     I know  why it is not paying out.   so that is not my question.

my question is after hitting  50 levels  just from levels 185-190   for about 4 nights in a row,   my rewards  were nothing.   i would keep going  on the 190s  until I got payout.   but I have never seen a 200 mil in power reward, so I know it is pointless to go any further.   and that all I used is gone.  

this is what is invested into my pp   from this week alone.  at least 4/5  of it went to 190.  it is over  500 mil in power.    

https://gyazo.com/c9470cde49a36da0ae4f1b364d6be365

https://gyazo.com/aaed1a20b4b0567b2db4cae47b4e5702

https://gyazo.com/09b1e693411f15e7b7bf473bd3e3dfca

I know  there is no way you can logically  explain why there was no payout.  

 so when I went back and cleared all my low level position,  when I got to level 105  105   107 109 110  and 111.    everyone  one of them paid me something that is usually not there.      so  here  is my question.      I hope Bill responds  to this!!!!

What do I owe XERSES  now   for me to get my next reward;  is it a combined total of  all rewards,   or is it just the last reward  I was given? 

PLARIUM:  if you say game is an investment  and payout return  then you should make your game have consistent payouts.    then it would eliminate the complaints  on forum.       your  game  is not an investment for reward.     so...   when you stop telling stories to customers/players   you will have  more happy people.     why not advertise it like I read  a long time ago.  XERSES  or PP   is a riddle to be solved.  not an investment.

 so when I went back and cleared all my low level position,  when I got to level 105  105   107 109 110  and 111.    everyone  one of them paid me something that is usually not there.      so  here  is my question.      I hope Bill responds  to this!!!!

Dimitri Molchanov said:

PMC said:

 so when I went back and cleared all my low level position,  when I got to level 105  105   107 109 110  and 111.    everyone  one of them paid me something that is usually not there.      so  here  is my question.      I hope Bill responds  to this!!!!

This is probably one of the most dangerous things one can do when clearing Positions. The losses that you suffered when battling PPs of higher level are not just given back to you in the same level bracket but in any Positions that you attack later. And since lower-tier Positions cannot provide as much reward, you get less than you lost even though the actual reward for that level is higher than usual.

yes  I have  almost recovered.    but I was  wondering   when you get  those multiple payouts.   can you answer what is the loan or payback of troops,   is it the last reward won or is it a combination of all rewards given?

I know this is not how to play  and  wont do it again.    

PP has become a joke, pure fool.

Just before Christmas you had to play for the thumb 8-10 Posis between 80-120 to get a nice payout.

Plaruim has clearly massively adjusted upwards since Christmas.

Now you have to play at least 15 Posis to maybe get a payout.

I know many players who do not even get what they pay after 20 big Posis.

As I said a pure fool only the whole.

That's why I can only appeal to everyone, stopping with the PP.

PMC said:

Dimitri Molchanov said:

PMC said:

 so when I went back and cleared all my low level position,  when I got to level 105  105   107 109 110  and 111.    everyone  one of them paid me something that is usually not there.      so  here  is my question.      I hope Bill responds  to this!!!!

This is probably one of the most dangerous things one can do when clearing Positions. The losses that you suffered when battling PPs of higher level are not just given back to you in the same level bracket but in any Positions that you attack later. And since lower-tier Positions cannot provide as much reward, you get less than you lost even though the actual reward for that level is higher than usual.

yes  I have  almost recovered.    but I was  wondering   when you get  those multiple payouts.   can you answer what is the loan or payback of troops,   is it the last reward won or is it a combination of all rewards given?

 

I know this is not how to play  and  wont do it again.    

How you Recovered ?

Dimitri Molchanov said:

Tonaya said:

you checked VODKA RED BULL's pp bank,vodka is VIP,and you checked pp bank for that player above,i can post screenshots where you checked vodka's pp bank,and when i ask for it,i get NO answer as always.

something is really wrong with my pp ,i would like you to check it and tell me how much i'm in?

Tonaya 

I didn't check anyone's record for Persian Positions, Tonaya. Nor do I work with VIP players directly.

Dimitri,your moderators deleted my post,here,where i show link's where ex cm Aliona 

 and one moderator checking banks for 2 VIP players,i want to check my bank as well,i played a lot pp in last time and i didnt got anything,so i'm confused there.

if i know that mods wont delete my post again,i would show you how it looks like when player get info from plarium about pp bank,i have screenshot,i'll show you if needed,so please,plarium,check my pp bank like you did to VIP players,even if i'm not VIP