What I have observed is they made payouts overall smaller, but more frequent.  For instance, instead of getting next to nothing then 5k dragons all at once, I'll get 500 dragons today, 200 tomorrow, 700 day after that, etc.  When I do the math though, I never get back what I put in (minus tax).  The deficit is growing larger every time I do bgs.  Plarium needs to look into this, someone is embezzling from the bg bank =P

I suspect that the smaller but more frequent payouts may be why people are seeing more "big" payouts on smaller bgs.  Some of the reward you should have gotten from the high level bg is being held back and slowly parsed out as you clear other bgs.  

Hello.

There was no any change in the BGs for more than 1.5 years already. 

Hello.

There was no any change in the BGs for more than 1.5 years already. 

Neither BGs mechanics nor Rewards given for high, low Level BGs were changed as well.

Maybe you don't really understand battleground mechanics? 

My soldier's payout from this morning http://prntscr.com/hmzk6v

Jezebel said:

Maybe you don't really understand battleground mechanics? 

My soldier's payout from this morning http://prntscr.com/hmzk6v

Never said I totally understand BGs mechanics Jezebel, thying to learn. As I stated above, I`ve never been a pro BG player. 

BG are working as intended. The are many regulators that kinda spin and dertimine weather or not you will get a payout. Over time our understanding of this factors increase, thanks to people like juglar we discover and postulate some of this factors over time. Tax for example, method of banking, unit resource value, boost per unit power are some of this factors.

BG are units in resource out, and not base power in base power out. Thus how much units power you invest is irrelevant and mutually exclusive of the bank. 

Another note, your method of banking is inclusive of payout time, in a sense. What this means is that how you engage the BG ( fight bular) will determine when you get s payout. I won't get into technical stuff, but this is largely due to the effect of BG points algorithm, which kind of add another spin independent of the above mentioned spin. This s This spin works by either delaying or speeding up your payout. What I found out is that if you do the English BG method, or yellow barring , and your total units bank value is like 150%+ of your highest bank your chance of being affected by this spin is reduced. This is why most coiners like Jezebel and some old veterans who do 1-5 never notice the delay. Cause they can simply block it's effect by inflating their bank by a factor of 1.3 to 10. But non coiners and neophytes, well they are doomed, if they use the English method. 

Good luck with your battleground hunts. I have shared too much secrets :). 

I will test BG at lvl 110-122.  And I will see if it is safe to do BG's :)

Jezebel said:

LOL I do not play bg on a regular basis - If I was a coiner using BG to build my army you would see me in the rankings along with Jerry and the rest of them but I do not believe in spending huge dollars to do it - I usually play BG once every 6 months after I have spent the time to BUILD troops for BG.  Keep my name out of your posts since you know nothing about me & that payout was not mine it was my member's and they do not spend money on this game.

Please explain what the "English method" is, I have never heard of it - just another thing you made up to try to sound like you know what you are talking about?  If anyone is still playing this game seriously and do not know how to do BG then I suggest they join a decent league that knows how to BG and learn from them.  There are many methods and theories I use mine and it works but I also do not play BG frequently (hence why I do not have a 500 million offense hammer)

A coiner is anyone who buys his army rather than grind it. The game we play also means that anyone who has a certain amount of units is automatically a coiner, cause it's impossible to build that much without coining. The amount spent on coining and method is irrelevant, weather you buy 9$ deals or 1-2 330 deals, it's irrelevant too. 

I have also said that(coiners) you, and veterans do 1-5 BG, I didn't specify when you do those BG. 

A quick search in the forum for the phrase English method, bring out an answer to your question. In short English method of banking is yellow barring, then finishing one of the yellow barred BG to earn your reward. It's different from the "Russian method". 

Jezebel said:

Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

LOL I do not play bg on a regular basis - If I was a coiner using BG to build my army you would see me in the rankings along with Jerry and the rest of them but I do not believe in spending huge dollars to do it - I usually play BG once every 6 months after I have spent the time to BUILD troops for BG.  Keep my name out of your posts since you know nothing about me & that payout was not mine it was my member's and they do not spend money on this game.

Please explain what the "English method" is, I have never heard of it - just another thing you made up to try to sound like you know what you are talking about?  If anyone is still playing this game seriously and do not know how to do BG then I suggest they join a decent league that knows how to BG and learn from them.  There are many methods and theories I use mine and it works but I also do not play BG frequently (hence why I do not have a 500 million offense hammer)

A coiner is anyone who buys his army rather than grind it. The game we play also means that anyone who has a certain amount of units is automatically a coiner, cause it's impossible to build that much without coining. The amount spent on coining and method is irrelevant, weather you buy 9$ deals or 1-2 330 deals, it's irrelevant too. 

I have also said that(coiners) you, and veterans do 1-5 BG, I didn't specify when you do those BG. 

A quick search in the forum for the phrase English method, bring out an answer to your question. In short English method of banking is yellow barring, then finishing one of the yellow barred BG to earn your reward. It's different from the "Russian method". 

Again keep my name out of your posts - you know nothing about me or my play style - 3 years of raiding, building and bg's - if i bought my army it would be a lot bigger than it is 

Also you are using 'made up' terms to make yourself sound like you know what you are talking about 

Talk about your own experience and do not pretend to know anything about anyone else's

There is no denying the established fact that you are a coiner. The mere screenshot of your army will provide all he evidence we need. 

Raid, siege, 😎, LO/L. Freenzy is the only coiner who I know that raided enough to build her army. She won over 50 raid tournaments, and you didn't win 1. You are a coiner, be proud of it. At least you are using your army, like the time you raided ms, LOL. 

If I coined the term, then I should sue all the private websites, leagues forums and players who use that term for copyright infringement. 

Mentioning you, LOL. Terms of use, and forum rules clearly states that Plarium is the sole property holder of anything and everything in this game and forum, that includes your ingame name and experience (game play). 

You don't believe me try suing. No forum rules say I can't say how you or anyone plays the game.

 Gedheras is a non coiner and Biohazard is a bad captain. See they aren't making a fuss about it.

Jezebel said:

Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

LOL I do not play bg on a regular basis - If I was a coiner using BG to build my army you would see me in the rankings along with Jerry and the rest of them but I do not believe in spending huge dollars to do it - I usually play BG once every 6 months after I have spent the time to BUILD troops for BG.  Keep my name out of your posts since you know nothing about me & that payout was not mine it was my member's and they do not spend money on this game.

Please explain what the "English method" is, I have never heard of it - just another thing you made up to try to sound like you know what you are talking about?  If anyone is still playing this game seriously and do not know how to do BG then I suggest they join a decent league that knows how to BG and learn from them.  There are many methods and theories I use mine and it works but I also do not play BG frequently (hence why I do not have a 500 million offense hammer)

A coiner is anyone who buys his army rather than grind it. The game we play also means that anyone who has a certain amount of units is automatically a coiner, cause it's impossible to build that much without coining. The amount spent on coining and method is irrelevant, weather you buy 9$ deals or 1-2 330 deals, it's irrelevant too. 

I have also said that(coiners) you, and veterans do 1-5 BG, I didn't specify when you do those BG. 

A quick search in the forum for the phrase English method, bring out an answer to your question. In short English method of banking is yellow barring, then finishing one of the yellow barred BG to earn your reward. It's different from the "Russian method". 

Again keep my name out of your posts - you know nothing about me or my play style - 3 years of raiding, building and bg's - if i bought my army it would be a lot bigger than it is 

Also you are using 'made up' terms to make yourself sound like you know what you are talking about 

Talk about your own experience and do not pretend to know anything about anyone else's

There is no denying the established fact that you are a coiner. The mere screenshot of your army will provide all he evidence we need. 

Raid, siege, 😎, LO/L. Freenzy is the only coiner who I know that raided enough to build her army. She won over 50 raid tournaments, and you didn't win 1. You are a coiner, be proud of it. At least you are using your army, like the time you raided ms, LOL. 

If I coined the term, then I should sue all the private websites, leagues forums and players who use that term for copyright infringement. 

Mentioning you, LOL. Terms of use, and forum rules clearly states that Plarium is the sole property holder of anything and everything in this game and forum, that includes your ingame name and experience (game play). 

You don't believe me try suing. No forum rules say I can't say how you or anyone plays the game.

 Gedheras is a non coiner and Biohazard is a bad captain. See they aren't making a fuss about it.

You really need to learn how to read profiles before talking smack about people.

Have i spent on the game - yes - have you? yes so I suppose you are a coiner then - some spend more on this game than my bi-weekly mortgage payment (that $$ would be put to better use I would say) - major coining is what has ruined the game so do I support coining and am I proud of it? Nope.

Biohazard knows more about the game mechanics than you ever will and is willing to help people in his league and outside his league so he is one of the best Captains I have encountered in the game.

Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

LOL I do not play bg on a regular basis - If I was a coiner using BG to build my army you would see me in the rankings along with Jerry and the rest of them but I do not believe in spending huge dollars to do it - I usually play BG once every 6 months after I have spent the time to BUILD troops for BG.  Keep my name out of your posts since you know nothing about me & that payout was not mine it was my member's and they do not spend money on this game.

Please explain what the "English method" is, I have never heard of it - just another thing you made up to try to sound like you know what you are talking about?  If anyone is still playing this game seriously and do not know how to do BG then I suggest they join a decent league that knows how to BG and learn from them.  There are many methods and theories I use mine and it works but I also do not play BG frequently (hence why I do not have a 500 million offense hammer)

A coiner is anyone who buys his army rather than grind it. The game we play also means that anyone who has a certain amount of units is automatically a coiner, cause it's impossible to build that much without coining. The amount spent on coining and method is irrelevant, weather you buy 9$ deals or 1-2 330 deals, it's irrelevant too. 

I have also said that(coiners) you, and veterans do 1-5 BG, I didn't specify when you do those BG. 

A quick search in the forum for the phrase English method, bring out an answer to your question. In short English method of banking is yellow barring, then finishing one of the yellow barred BG to earn your reward. It's different from the "Russian method". 

Again keep my name out of your posts - you know nothing about me or my play style - 3 years of raiding, building and bg's - if i bought my army it would be a lot bigger than it is 

Also you are using 'made up' terms to make yourself sound like you know what you are talking about 

Talk about your own experience and do not pretend to know anything about anyone else's

There is no denying the established fact that you are a coiner. The mere screenshot of your army will provide all he evidence we need. 

Raid, siege, 😎, LO/L. Freenzy is the only coiner who I know that raided enough to build her army. She won over 50 raid tournaments, and you didn't win 1. You are a coiner, be proud of it. At least you are using your army, like the time you raided ms, LOL. 

If I coined the term, then I should sue all the private websites, leagues forums and players who use that term for copyright infringement. 

Mentioning you, LOL. Terms of use, and forum rules clearly states that Plarium is the sole property holder of anything and everything in this game and forum, that includes your ingame name and experience (game play). 

You don't believe me try suing. No forum rules say I can't say how you or anyone plays the game.

 Gedheras is a non coiner and Biohazard is a bad captain. See they aren't making a fuss about it.

Think I spent maybe 60 USD or something in total since I started play, not quite sure. But my thumb rule is never sink more than 10 into a game a month. I see those that spend 10-20 times that easy, and think they are bat shit crazy for doing it. But that is my own opinion. 

Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

LOL I do not play bg on a regular basis - If I was a coiner using BG to build my army you would see me in the rankings along with Jerry and the rest of them but I do not believe in spending huge dollars to do it - I usually play BG once every 6 months after I have spent the time to BUILD troops for BG.  Keep my name out of your posts since you know nothing about me & that payout was not mine it was my member's and they do not spend money on this game.

Please explain what the "English method" is, I have never heard of it - just another thing you made up to try to sound like you know what you are talking about?  If anyone is still playing this game seriously and do not know how to do BG then I suggest they join a decent league that knows how to BG and learn from them.  There are many methods and theories I use mine and it works but I also do not play BG frequently (hence why I do not have a 500 million offense hammer)

A coiner is anyone who buys his army rather than grind it. The game we play also means that anyone who has a certain amount of units is automatically a coiner, cause it's impossible to build that much without coining. The amount spent on coining and method is irrelevant, weather you buy 9$ deals or 1-2 330 deals, it's irrelevant too. 

I have also said that(coiners) you, and veterans do 1-5 BG, I didn't specify when you do those BG. 

A quick search in the forum for the phrase English method, bring out an answer to your question. In short English method of banking is yellow barring, then finishing one of the yellow barred BG to earn your reward. It's different from the "Russian method". 

Again keep my name out of your posts - you know nothing about me or my play style - 3 years of raiding, building and bg's - if i bought my army it would be a lot bigger than it is 

Also you are using 'made up' terms to make yourself sound like you know what you are talking about 

Talk about your own experience and do not pretend to know anything about anyone else's

There is no denying the established fact that you are a coiner. The mere screenshot of your army will provide all he evidence we need. 

Raid, siege, 😎, LO/L. Freenzy is the only coiner who I know that raided enough to build her army. She won over 50 raid tournaments, and you didn't win 1. You are a coiner, be proud of it. At least you are using your army, like the time you raided ms, LOL. 

If I coined the term, then I should sue all the private websites, leagues forums and players who use that term for copyright infringement. 

Mentioning you, LOL. Terms of use, and forum rules clearly states that Plarium is the sole property holder of anything and everything in this game and forum, that includes your ingame name and experience (game play). 

You don't believe me try suing. No forum rules say I can't say how you or anyone plays the game.

 Gedheras is a non coiner and Biohazard is a bad captain. See they aren't making a fuss about it.

HAHAHA you think frenzy raided enough to build nearly a billion offense?  Do you even know how long that would actually take?

Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

LOL I do not play bg on a regular basis - If I was a coiner using BG to build my army you would see me in the rankings along with Jerry and the rest of them but I do not believe in spending huge dollars to do it - I usually play BG once every 6 months after I have spent the time to BUILD troops for BG.  Keep my name out of your posts since you know nothing about me & that payout was not mine it was my member's and they do not spend money on this game.

Please explain what the "English method" is, I have never heard of it - just another thing you made up to try to sound like you know what you are talking about?  If anyone is still playing this game seriously and do not know how to do BG then I suggest they join a decent league that knows how to BG and learn from them.  There are many methods and theories I use mine and it works but I also do not play BG frequently (hence why I do not have a 500 million offense hammer)

A coiner is anyone who buys his army rather than grind it. The game we play also means that anyone who has a certain amount of units is automatically a coiner, cause it's impossible to build that much without coining. The amount spent on coining and method is irrelevant, weather you buy 9$ deals or 1-2 330 deals, it's irrelevant too. 

I have also said that(coiners) you, and veterans do 1-5 BG, I didn't specify when you do those BG. 

A quick search in the forum for the phrase English method, bring out an answer to your question. In short English method of banking is yellow barring, then finishing one of the yellow barred BG to earn your reward. It's different from the "Russian method". 

Again keep my name out of your posts - you know nothing about me or my play style - 3 years of raiding, building and bg's - if i bought my army it would be a lot bigger than it is 

Also you are using 'made up' terms to make yourself sound like you know what you are talking about 

Talk about your own experience and do not pretend to know anything about anyone else's

There is no denying the established fact that you are a coiner. The mere screenshot of your army will provide all he evidence we need. 

Raid, siege, 😎, LO/L. Freenzy is the only coiner who I know that raided enough to build her army. She won over 50 raid tournaments, and you didn't win 1. You are a coiner, be proud of it. At least you are using your army, like the time you raided ms, LOL. 

If I coined the term, then I should sue all the private websites, leagues forums and players who use that term for copyright infringement. 

Mentioning you, LOL. Terms of use, and forum rules clearly states that Plarium is the sole property holder of anything and everything in this game and forum, that includes your ingame name and experience (game play). 

You don't believe me try suing. No forum rules say I can't say how you or anyone plays the game.

 Gedheras is a non coiner and Biohazard is a bad captain. See they aren't making a fuss about it.

You really need to learn how to read profiles before talking smack about people.

Have i spent on the game - yes - have you? yes so I suppose you are a coiner then - some spend more on this game than my bi-weekly mortgage payment (that $$ would be put to better use I would say) - major coining is what has ruined the game so do I support coining and am I proud of it? Nope.

Biohazard knows more about the game mechanics than you ever will and is willing to help people in his league and outside his league so he is one of the best Captains I have encountered in the game.

Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

LOL I do not play bg on a regular basis - If I was a coiner using BG to build my army you would see me in the rankings along with Jerry and the rest of them but I do not believe in spending huge dollars to do it - I usually play BG once every 6 months after I have spent the time to BUILD troops for BG.  Keep my name out of your posts since you know nothing about me & that payout was not mine it was my member's and they do not spend money on this game.

Please explain what the "English method" is, I have never heard of it - just another thing you made up to try to sound like you know what you are talking about?  If anyone is still playing this game seriously and do not know how to do BG then I suggest they join a decent league that knows how to BG and learn from them.  There are many methods and theories I use mine and it works but I also do not play BG frequently (hence why I do not have a 500 million offense hammer)

A coiner is anyone who buys his army rather than grind it. The game we play also means that anyone who has a certain amount of units is automatically a coiner, cause it's impossible to build that much without coining. The amount spent on coining and method is irrelevant, weather you buy 9$ deals or 1-2 330 deals, it's irrelevant too. 

I have also said that(coiners) you, and veterans do 1-5 BG, I didn't specify when you do those BG. 

A quick search in the forum for the phrase English method, bring out an answer to your question. In short English method of banking is yellow barring, then finishing one of the yellow barred BG to earn your reward. It's different from the "Russian method". 

Again keep my name out of your posts - you know nothing about me or my play style - 3 years of raiding, building and bg's - if i bought my army it would be a lot bigger than it is 

Also you are using 'made up' terms to make yourself sound like you know what you are talking about 

Oracle said:

BG are working as intended. The are many regulators that kinda spin and dertimine weather or not you will get a payout. Over time our understanding of this factors increase, thanks to people like juglar we discover and postulate some of this factors over time. Tax for example, method of banking, unit resource value, boost per unit power are some of this factors.

BG are units in resource out, and not base power in base power out. Thus how much units power you invest is irrelevant and mutually exclusive of the bank. 

Another note, your method of banking is inclusive of payout time, in a sense. What this means is that how you engage the BG ( fight bular) will determine when you get s payout. I won't get into technical stuff, but this is largely due to the effect of BG points algorithm, which kind of add another spin independent of the above mentioned spin. This s This spin works by either delaying or speeding up your payout. What I found out is that if you do the English BG method, or yellow barring , and your total units bank value is like 150%+ of your highest bank your chance of being affected by this spin is reduced. This is why most coiners like Jezebel and some old veterans who do 1-5 never notice the delay. Cause they can simply block it's effect by inflating their bank by a factor of 1.3 to 10. But non coiners and neophytes, well they are doomed, if they use the English method. 

Good luck with your battleground hunts. I have shared too much secrets :). 

LOL I do not play bg on a regular basis - If I was a coiner using BG to build my army you would see me in the rankings along with Jerry and the rest of them but I do not believe in spending huge dollars to do it - I usually play BG once every 6 months after I have spent the time to BUILD troops for BG.  Keep my name out of your posts since you know nothing about me & that payout was not mine it was my member's and they do not spend money on this game.

Maybe you don't really understand battleground mechanics? 

My soldier's payout from this morning http://prntscr.com/hmzk6v

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello.

There was no any change in the BGs for more than 1.5 years already. 

Neither BGs mechanics nor Rewards given for high, low Level BGs were changed as well.

If you guys were serious about this you'd release a set of BG regression test results following each update. To just say that no deliberate changes were made to BGs doesn't rule out that something was changed inadvertently as a result of other changes. 

I`ve been struggling to understand what was changed or what has gone wrong with BGs payouts. Peeps are saying plarium deducted the reward drop from high-level BGs, and increased the rewards from low-level BGs. I never say any announcement about that.

Yesterday started to do my BGs (I am not the usual BG player who do BGs daily, and who score millions of points in order to win any given tournament) But what happened kinda suprised me, because I started from level 48 and went up to level 68 (Deff BGs) didn`t got any payouts, so far I did lost around 6mill Deff. So I waited for the reset to come, because usualy when I wait the reset and go for 3-5 more D bgs I`d recover my loses......NOTHING like this happened!!! Lost another 4mill D and decided to stop.

This morning I did Off BG - 67lvl, and got as a reward 1.7k warlocks + 317 Demons. Which is rediculous low.

Any opinions how to get out of this ?! and eventually restore atleast 50-70% of the force I lost?