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9 июль 2017, 17:4609.07.17
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War requests

Its silly that the other league has to click accept ...
I dont recall germany waiting for permission before starting WW2.


This whole system where the other league has to accept if one wants to go to war "officially" only creates a hiding place.
This should be fixed imo

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9 июль 2017, 17:5909.07.17
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Marcel Stokvis said:

Its silly that the other league has to click accept ...
I dont recall germany waiting for permission before starting WW2.


This whole system where the other league has to accept if one wants to go to war "officially" only creates a hiding place.
This should be fixed imo

Why should a league agree to a state of War and give the opposition tournament points and league accomplishments. I will not agree to a War unless there is a good chance of winning. Why agree to a losing War? So many War challenges are traps.
9 июль 2017, 18:1309.07.17
18.12.14
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but DV I don't wanna go to war with you :(


also beacon holding leagues are usually afraid to go to war because they don't want their beacons to get hit and everyone to know how weak they really are :)
9 июль 2017, 18:4109.07.17
04.10.13
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Marcel Stokvis said:

BiohazarD said:


Marcel Stokvis said:


https://youtu.be/im2SoltmZEc


http://prntscr.com/ftkai0
http://prntscr.com/ftkapv
http://prntscr.com/ftkaz8
http://prntscr.com/ftkb4y



What does any of that have to do with this topic?

Easy, I shouldnt have to wait for an ok before being able to declare war to in this case resevoir dogs.
War should be declared by 1 party, not ok'd by the second.

Screens are to show that them not accepting the war request doesnt make a difference in us being at war


Like I said in my 1st post ... germany didnt wait for an ok by poland before invading them

Ah ok, makes sense :)
9 июль 2017, 18:4309.07.17
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BiohazarD said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

BiohazarD said:


Marcel Stokvis said:


https://youtu.be/im2SoltmZEc


http://prntscr.com/ftkai0
http://prntscr.com/ftkapv
http://prntscr.com/ftkaz8
http://prntscr.com/ftkb4y



What does any of that have to do with this topic?

Easy, I shouldnt have to wait for an ok before being able to declare war to in this case resevoir dogs.
War should be declared by 1 party, not ok'd by the second.

Screens are to show that them not accepting the war request doesnt make a difference in us being at war


Like I said in my 1st post ... germany didnt wait for an ok by poland before invading them

Ah ok, makes sense :)
The song should be abeacon of hope for RD ... who knows I might run out of ports in the next month or so
9 июль 2017, 19:1709.07.17
9 июль 2017, 19:18(отредактировано)
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nice song jez ,i let it continiou play and i heared more song of them ,i did nt know them they rock ! :)



am i out of the topic?  ow sorry guys just now i noticed it ;-)



11 июль 2017, 07:5211.07.17
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Hello :)

We think that setting the State of War automatically is not a good idea. 

This could be against some Leagues’ policies. Besides, there could be some League members whose actions do not align with their League's intentions not to attack certain Leagues. 

We believe that such cases should be solved through negotiations, and if two Leagues agree that it is time for War, they they can start it.

11 июль 2017, 17:1711.07.17
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Alina Phenix said:


Hello :)

We think that setting the State of War automatically is not a good idea. 

This could be against some Leagues’ policies. Besides, there could be some League members whose actions do not align with their League's intentions not to attack certain Leagues. 

We believe that such cases should be solved through negotiations, and if two Leagues agree that it is time for War, they they can start it.

This game isnt called farmville but Stormfall : Age of war

11 июль 2017, 17:3711.07.17
04.10.13
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Alina Phenix said:


Hello :)

We think that setting the State of War automatically is not a good idea. 

This could be against some Leagues’ policies. Besides, there could be some League members whose actions do not align with their League's intentions not to attack certain Leagues. 

We believe that such cases should be solved through negotiations, and if two Leagues agree that it is time for War, they they can start it.

That's the problem though, your enemies aren't going to agree to the war request you sent because they know you want them to accept it.  And not doing what you want is what makes them enemies in the first place.  And when we're trying to destroy a league I'd imagine getting destroyed is usually against that leagues policies. 

14 июль 2017, 13:0014.07.17
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djmoody said:


Is there any point in having this discussion when the points mechanisms for wars and challenges are so broken.

If that was fixed then more people might want to take part in something challenging, enjoyable and with a result driven by skill, knowledge and experience.

Until then any other discussion around the mechanics it a bit of a waste of time.


Dont agree there, this isnt the same as BG's being broken or game been uneven or flawed, ie code that needs to be rewritten or checked
This is simply a matter or changing a setting ..

2 very different things

15 июль 2017, 05:5415.07.17
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The feature was implemented   for many reasons. Yes I understand that real life   works different compared to what we have in the game. Apart from the reason given by the CM, other reasons​ for this feature are:


To​ safeguard decision making to players that a league Marshall have appointed. Imagine if everyone in your league had an ability to start war with any league.


For league security reasons 


To enhance league play styles. Remember not all league want to war, some are grind and social orientated. 


To safeguard against bullies which will abuse the feature to pummel small leagues. 


The major reason is giving players the ability to say no. So if wars are not league goals they can ignore requests. 

15 июль 2017, 18:5115.07.17
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Can some moderator delete oracle's post pls ... totally irrelevent and I dont want his rubish in my threads
15 июль 2017, 19:5215.07.17
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Can you please break my post bit by bit as to how it's irrelevant. I can debate with you those points in order to arrive at a better standing, maybe even meet a resolution to  your complaint together. 


15 июль 2017, 20:0115.07.17
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Oracle said:


Can you please break my post bit by bit as to how it's irrelevant. I can debate with you those points in order to arrive at a better standing, maybe even meet a resolution to  your complaint together. 


I wont ...



“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


― George Carlin

16 июль 2017, 05:0916.07.17
04.10.13
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Oracle said:


The feature was implemented   for many reasons. Yes I understand that real life   works different compared to what we have in the game. Apart from the reason given by the CM, other reasons​ for this feature are:


To​ safeguard decision making to players that a league Marshall have appointed. Imagine if everyone in your league had an ability to start war with any league.


For league security reasons 


To enhance league play styles. Remember not all league want to war, some are grind and social orientated. 


To safeguard against bullies which will abuse the feature to pummel small leagues. 


The major reason is giving players the ability to say no. So if wars are not league goals they can ignore requests. 

Only people given diplo permission by the marshal have the ability to declare war anyways. Making it so the target league couldn't refuse the war request wouldn't give everyone the ability to declare war.

Also, ignoring the war request doesn't mean the other league can't still destroy you.  It just means they won't get the war points towards the achievement for doing so.  
17 июль 2017, 14:4717.07.17
17.04.16
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Alina Phoenix said:


Hello, Lords and Ladies! :) 

The final reply regarding this question is that we'll not allow setting an automatic State of War status between the two Leagues.

Oracle is right, there are different reasons that led to this decision. But the main reason is that we don't want to make Leagues to enter a war as it could be against their policies. 

Also, War is not only about Battles, it's also about Diplomacy. So, you can solve such questions through negotiations.

So how can Diplomacy give you this http://prntscr.com/fwrgmf ? If all leagues refuse your war request because they can ? 

17 июль 2017, 15:5017.07.17
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OCTAVIAN said:

Alina Phoenix said:


Hello, Lords and Ladies! :) 

The final reply regarding this question is that we'll not allow setting an automatic State of War status between the two Leagues.

Oracle is right, there are different reasons that led to this decision. But the main reason is that we don't want to make Leagues to enter a war as it could be against their policies. 

Also, War is not only about Battles, it's also about Diplomacy. So, you can solve such questions through negotiations.

So how can Diplomacy give you this http://prntscr.com/fwrgmf ? If all leagues refuse your war request because they can ? 

That is why you will often see friendly leagues and even a league and their training league At War and in Challenges almost constantly. They communicate and set targets. Since they are actually allied they can determine the outcome and both gain points.
20 июль 2017, 09:5020.07.17
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roadstar Pitbull said:


Alina Phoenix said:


Marcel Stokvis said:


Juglar del Viento said:


Lord Marcel

i have edited ur coment and leave a yellow lines about ur behaviour

please refrain it and try to be respecfull with other people

Regards

please do the same everytime your fellow "moderator" abuses his powers ....
I realise this puts a strain on your alloted times online but it cannot be helped

Surely even the moderators must now realise what kind of flawed person he is if he is even being investigated by Lord Oberon himself
Besides this would not have happend if you had taken the time to delete his comment from this thread in the 1st place like i ASKED

Hello, Lord Marcel.

I don't see here an example when moderator abuses his power. 

Also, I would like to remind you that according to Forum rules it's not allowed to discuss moderstors and their decisions/actions on Forum.

You can discuss it with Lord Oberon in private.

Then perhaps you can ask Lord Oberon ( in private), just how many complaints have been logged against a certain 'moderator'.

Hello, my Lord :) 

I can assure you that any report sent to Lord Oberon is thoroughly checked and investigated :) 

20 июль 2017, 13:2620.07.17
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roadstar Pitbull said:

Then perhaps you can ask Lord Oberon ( in private), just how many complaints have been logged against a certain 'moderator'.

From my experience with other games forums

Could be plenty of complaints. I don't think Lord Oberon can disclose that information of how many times a moderator has been under investigation. Most complaints are investigated, and if there is evidence of ''abuse of power'' then action will be taken against that moderator. 

Lord Oberon will not be able to discuss the outcome of that investigation with third parties, but the complainer will be notified of the result of the investigation and the action taken.