if a pvp event is on then you will get credited on what you kill, doesn't mater offense or defense... 

defending or raiding 

they were stating that the reason why you don't get points for defeating other players troops while defending is that it is a tactic to combat players who use alts to send smaller amounts of troops against their main with a huge defense.

are you stating that:

1. this is not in effect during pvp events.

2. that there is an amount of troops sent that is large enough to cancel the effect.

3. ***********************

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johanrayne said:

This post has been edited for writing falsified information.

im pretty sure she is defining the offense that was used to kill you defense in a battle, say someone sent 1k dragons at you,

it is calculated by what you lost on the battle and not what they lost, as the person whom hit you, their calculation would be on what offense they destroyed killing your defense.....

If you can direct me to the post she had mentioned this...

I can better understand .

But i do know you do get pvp points defending your self, that is the whole point in this game is the combat purpose 

take that away and then what purppose do any of us have 

i brought the whole thread to the front by making a couple of posts in it, it is third in row at present. if you look at the last 2 posts i made in it. another player showed results from an attack, zero loss attacker gained 108 points, defender lost 97% of troops and gained 21 points.

the defender gained 21 points by losing, the attacker gained 108 points by not losing, but instead destroying.  if you have 1m defence and attacker has 1m offense. the defender gains points on their losses, while the attacker gains points by destroying, and the pvp points gained favors the attacker.

so at 1m defense you get no points if attacked by someone with 10k offense because you did not lose any troops, even tho you destroyed 10k worth of offence.

"that is the whole point in this game is the combat purpose

take that away and then what purppose do any of us have"

exactly

johanrayne said:

i just read a post from a forum mod that you DO NOT GET PVP POINTS FOR DEFENDING YOURSELF BY KILLING OTHER PLAYERS TROOPS, YOU ONLY GET POINTS FOR LOSING YOUR OWN TROOPS!

This is actually not true. Depending on units affinity you may get more or less points. For example griffins are good to defend against beastiaries but not that good for infantries. 850 def to beasties, 400 def against infantries.

So if you put 100k def (numbers that appears on the bottom) in griffins against infantries you'll get less points than if you defend using demons with the same def points for example. That's because you killed less. 

However if your defense is too big compared to the ofens the defending party will get no point. Not sure about the comparison, maybe 5%? Like 5k ofens for 100k def? idk.

Sifr said:

johanrayne said:

This post has been edited for writing falsified information.

"This is actually not true. Depending on units affinity you may get more or less points. For example griffins are good to defend against beastiaries but not that good for infantries. 850 def to beasties, 400 def against infantries.

So if you put 100k def (numbers that appears on the bottom) in griffins against infantries you'll get less points than if you defend using demons with the same def points for example. That's because you killed less. 

However if your defense is too big compared to the ofens the defending party will get no point. Not sure about the comparison, maybe 5%? Like 5k ofens for 100k def? idk."

so are you saying that community manager alyona was incorrect when they stated that when defending, you only get points for your lost troops and not troops of the attacker that you have killed?

more points or less points is irrelevant to the topic. the question is how can you not gain points on defense if you kill any significant number of attacking troops? "significant" simply being enough to register pvp points such as 2 pikes or whatever it takes.

DJmoody yesterday i had a league do nine attacks against my castle, yet they walked away with a ton of points and i hardly got any. They lost about 85-90% i lost 35%. But my defense is larger than my offense is. And to be frank it felt one sided on the points.

Me 390 pvp points

Lord Johanrayne,

I've edited your post's cause they were containing  falsified information's. Since I haven't found anywhere Alyona's post you're referring to (neither in deleted posts and topics) hereby you're warned for posting falsified informations.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

djmoody said:

I am glad I pointed out how wrong the info was, even though the groundswell of opinion on the threads was telling me I must be wrong because "Plarium said so".

I'm also glad you did it. 

lol, ok this is my last post.  you just agreed with djmoody, when to the best of my deciphering the two of you disagree on the mechanic. and i still do not know which one of you is more correct.  or if both of you are.  which of my two scenarios is closer to agreeing with both of you. 

i spent my 5 days in the forums. now my experience is complete.

done

IMO that's a good thing for alyona admitting her mistake. And unless I misunderstood something alyona is basically saying djmoody is correct.

Sifr said:

IMO that's a good thing for alyona admitting her mistake. And unless I misunderstood something alyona is basically saying djmoody is correct.

Yes, he is correct 

johanrayne said:

Sifr said:

johanrayne said:

This post has been edited for writing falsified information.

"This is actually not true. Depending on units affinity you may get more or less points. For example griffins are good to defend against beastiaries but not that good for infantries. 850 def to beasties, 400 def against infantries.

So if you put 100k def (numbers that appears on the bottom) in griffins against infantries you'll get less points than if you defend using demons with the same def points for example. That's because you killed less. 

However if your defense is too big compared to the ofens the defending party will get no point. Not sure about the comparison, maybe 5%? Like 5k ofens for 100k def? idk."

so are you saying that community manager alyona was incorrect when they stated that when defending, you only get points for your lost troops and not troops of the attacker that you have killed?

more points or less points is irrelevant to the topic. the question is how can you not gain points on defense if you kill any significant number of attacking troops? "significant" simply being enough to register pvp points such as 2 pikes or whatever it takes.

Yes, she was wrong.  And for why we don't get points for killing ofen while we have overwhelming defend is I don't know. "However if your defense is too big compared to the ofens the defending party will get no point. Not sure about the comparison, maybe 5%? Like 5k ofens for 100k def? idk."

That's a question for developer to anwer, I'm just a player who knows few things.

I put comparison on griffins and demons as an example as to why when defending some get more points, it's because of the units they kill. Demons will kill more infantries easily than griffins. So in my mind it's not very OOT.

my thread has to do with more than 1 subject.  initially in your post you stated that pvp points would be given based on enemy troops you destroy regardless of whether it was offense or defense.

in your second post you stated to the effect that defense gets their pvp points based on defensive losses. these 2 posts on the same day in the same thread.

this is not just a topic, it is a game mechanic, one in which you stated that if the mechanic does not function in a reasonable way, what purpose do we have in the game.

is this not the jist of what we have communicated?

johanrayne said:

why are we penalized for having overwhelming defence is the topic

ive seen it now, thank you,

 Im sided struck not understanding her at the moment, and there is a pretty big discussion over it already

now im confused why the same topic was put here that will only take on what is already talking about in another thread, 

now we will be talking about the same thing in two different threads about the same topic 

( *Side note* Aloyna  is a community manager of plarium she is not a MOD, Mods are volunteer players ) 

I've edited my comment to make it less confusing and more accurate. There's no penalty for being a defender. Actually you do get points for your lost Units. it's a kind of compensation for your losses. But also you get points for your rival's losses.

blasphemy found the post by alyona

i brought it back to the top of the page by quoting the falsified post. if you check the last post on the last page you will see it.

it should at this time be the first topic in line.

johanrayne said:

why are we penalized for having overwhelming defence is the topic

ive seen it now, thank you,

 Im sided struck not understanding her at the moment, and there is a pretty big discussion over it already

now im confused why the same topic was put here that will only take on what is already talking about in another thread, 

now we will be talking about the same thing in two different threads about the same topic 

( *Side note* Aloyna  is a community manager of plarium she is not a MOD, Mods are volunteer players )