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14 июль 2016, 21:1114.07.16
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BG went terribly wrong

Hello, can someone please explain to me what force i should have sent to that BG for zero-loss tactic to work.

Level 16  BG i've sent 34871.3, off force, to be exact.

http://imgur.com/a/b4PJ2

I thought that multiplying by 3 expected force of level 16 BG, 8790, would allow me to clear it safely. Sadly that wasnt the case.


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14 июль 2016, 21:4114.07.16
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RightThingToDo said:

Hello, can someone please explain to me what force i should have sent to that BG for zero-loss tactic to work.

Level 16  BG i've sent 34871.3, off force, to be exact.

http://imgur.com/a/b4PJ2

I thought that multiplying by 3 expected force of level 16 BG, 8790, would allow me to clear it safely. Sadly that wasnt the case.


To start with you those were 109 demons. The second thing I noticed is you had several Legendaries without enough support troops. The lowest I have successfully attacked a level 16 is 82K offense. I believe you have an outdated calculator, since demons were not on the pictures of units you were attacking.
15 июль 2016, 03:1715.07.16
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RightThingToDo ha detto:

Ciao, qualcuno può spiegare a me che cosa forza avrei dovuto inviato a quella BG per il valore zero la perdita di tattica al lavoro.

Livello 16 BG ho mandato 34871,3, fuori la forza, per essere esatti.

http://imgur.com/a/b4PJ2

Ho pensato che moltiplicando per 3 la forza prevista di livello 16 BG, 8790, mi avrebbe permesso di cancellare in modo sicuro. Purtroppo che era il caso.


max value x11.5, you lose 10% where 0.5% count not die
15 июль 2016, 09:2815.07.16
24.02.16
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brunsonthomas said:


RightThingToDo said:


Hello, can someone please explain to me what force i should have sent to that BG for zero-loss tactic to work.

Level 16  BG i've sent 34871.3, off force, to be exact.

http://imgur.com/a/b4PJ2

I thought that multiplying by 3 expected force of level 16 BG, 8790, would allow me to clear it safely. Sadly that wasnt the case.


To start with you those were 109 demons. The second thing I noticed is you had several Legendaries without enough support troops. The lowest I have successfully attacked a level 16 is 82K offense. I believe you have an outdated calculator, since demons were not on the pictures of units you were attacking.

I am using english version of Stromfall and those 109 creatures,  are called marennons just as in the calculator i am using http://www.stormfallbgscalculator.com/defensebgs.html

It may be outdated, though. It definetely wasnt updated after the last changes in BGs mechanics.


Zero-loss tactic i am refering to consists of sending one of each type of units you have (i sent 77). If their total force is greater than 3 times the force of BG you are attacing, in theory you, you wont lose a single unit (I lost all but 1 pikeman). That is way my Legendaries were without proper support.


Unfortunately all my knowledge comes from this forum, and I might have not understood how to properly use this method (pretty obvious is you saw the screenshot :)). That's why i am asking if someone could clarify how to use it correctly.


@ Jumy I might end up doing that, sending pikes or whatever as  sacrificial lambs, but that wont be the lossless method I was hoping to find.


Thank you guys for responding i know many people here are reluctant to share their knowledge.


18 июль 2016, 08:0218.07.16
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Balur troops have bonus to types of troops, if you send only bestiary Marennon defense is 240, vs other type is 80, vs mix type is a mix % (if with beast)

for accurate calculation need all % you send for each type

23 авг. 2016, 00:2523.08.16
23 авг. 2016, 01:55(отредактировано)
31.07.16
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fairly new at this.

I have no idea what to send to a battleground - I just send all my offence to a red and all my defense to a green. seems to work at lower level bgs.

I just stop fighting when I get losses I can't replenish fast enough. .. and wait til I have enough units and fight the bg level again.

Is this wrong? crazy? silly? whats the right way?

Is the calculator necessary and if so why does the game not provide those stats without it?
29 авг. 2016, 18:2429.08.16
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Lord JINIX90,

as a player as you are I would advice you to yellow as much Bg's as you can.

Although that tactics was better before even now you can score more troops than you've loosed. At least it works with me.

So, instead of defeating few Bg's per day wait for a while and defeat ten of them or more per week. It might help.
31 авг. 2016, 06:5131.08.16
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Bgs arent profitable unless  you are throwing around a  2 million troops. Thats part of the problem with lower level players not seeing much pay out. 
31 авг. 2016, 21:4531.08.16
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just find a good strategy i do agree BG's are not easy but if you master them they are worth it

1 сент. 2016, 02:0101.09.16
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@EXXXE

How much resources you spent to get that payout?
1 сент. 2016, 07:5201.09.16
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exxxe said:

http://prntscr.com/ccoljs


just find a good strategy i do agree BG's are not easy but if you master them they are worth it

 That's a good one!
6 сент. 2016, 09:1106.09.16
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Most welcome strategy change or pure luck, but today is a good bg day for me, and it ain´t the big payouts.
22 сент. 2016, 22:4022.09.16
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gediminas.skunsmonas said:

Hello, this question for plarium, you can tell my rules how you calculate payout
As far as I'm aware plarium does not disclose those rules, it's up to the players to figure them out.  There are multiple other threads explaining them, you just have to look around. 
23 сент. 2016, 07:5723.09.16
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BiohazarD said:


As far as I'm aware plarium does not disclose those rules, it's up to the players to figure them out.  There are multiple other threads explaining them, you just have to look around. 
You're right, we don't :)
3 окт. 2016, 09:2103.10.16
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gediminas.skunsmonas said:

So I get 3.4mln resources less then I spend

Hmm...and what if you look at BGs in a long run? I mean not just 1-2 BGs, but 10, 30, 50. Are the results the same?
3 окт. 2016, 16:2903.10.16
04.10.13
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

gediminas.skunsmonas said:

So I get 3.4mln resources less then I spend

Hmm...and what if you look at BGs in a long run? I mean not just 1-2 BGs, but 10, 30, 50. Are the results the same?
Yeah pretty much.  The average return rate is about 90%. 
3 окт. 2016, 22:3503.10.16
3 окт. 2016, 22:42(отредактировано)
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

gediminas.skunsmonas said:

So I get 3.4mln resources less then I spend

Hmm...and what if you look at BGs in a long run? I mean not just 1-2 BGs, but 10, 30, 50. Are the results the same?
before upgrade always I get exactly how I spend (always I kill 10%  more then I get revard before). After upgrade every higer lvl I get 1-3 mln less then I spend
3 окт. 2016, 22:4503.10.16
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BiohazarD said:


Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


gediminas.skunsmonas said:

So I get 3.4mln resources less then I spend

Hmm...and what if you look at BGs in a long run? I mean not just 1-2 BGs, but 10, 30, 50. Are the results the same?
Yeah pretty much.  The average return rate is about 90%. 
I no need formula how need kill BG, I just want know how or when I can expected normal revard

4 окт. 2016, 08:1204.10.16
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Lord GEDIMINAS.SKUNSMONAS,

you can make your own calculation. It might be helpful.
4 окт. 2016, 10:5004.10.16
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gediminas.skunsmonas said:


before upgrade always I get exactly how I spend (always I kill 10%  more then I get revard before). After upgrade every higer lvl I get 1-3 mln less then I spend
Maybe you feel the difference because you started doing higher-level BGs?
5 окт. 2016, 07:0605.10.16
5 окт. 2016, 07:06(отредактировано)
04.10.13
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gediminas.skunsmonas said:

BiohazarD said:


Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


gediminas.skunsmonas said:

So I get 3.4mln resources less then I spend

Hmm...and what if you look at BGs in a long run? I mean not just 1-2 BGs, but 10, 30, 50. Are the results the same?
Yeah pretty much.  The average return rate is about 90%. 
I no need formula how need kill BG, I just want know how or when I can expected normal revard

With bgs you will always lose more than you win back.  That's just how the current algorithm works. 
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