In general, but especially to the last one of villas, that nor arriving at x2. Even one-half of the units spent could be recovered.

Although I am pleased to see that in this last PVP tournament. They have fixed that failure that had great jump points, without giving great rewards of troops.

jaesnas said:

In general, but especially to the last one of villas, that nor arriving at x2. Even one-half of the units spent could be recovered.

Although I am pleased to see that in this last PVP tournament. They have fixed that failure that had great jump points, without giving great rewards of troops.

Hello Archon

The x2.2 tournaments, you need to work with your team to get the maximum rewards, and split the losses. All coalitions tournaments are worth playing, but you need to get all your teammates on the same page.

About solo tournaments, I must agree, the rewards are not so great, so, i just leave them at the bottom of my plans.

The Massacre event, the one you also mention in your comment, i like it too, I had a lot of fun, and i also had some positive feedbaks from other coalitions.

You just need to plan and play in tournaments that suits you best...

Above all, have fun.

Best regards

This game Archon , is a long term game.

This game Archon , is a long term game.

Do the tournaments you deem worthy and leave out the rest. In the mean time, raid for resources and build your army!

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Do you mean some specific Tournaments, or in general? 

in general,Alyona,in any tournament rewards are too small and there is no reason to play any tournament.i skip almost every other tournament,because we loose troops all the time and rewards are cheap.i'v posted for small rewards few times,you or delete my post because i'm violator of something,or your answer is :its all ok,just put more money in the game and everything gonna be ok :(

i play game more then 2 years,i know all players who complain on forum,about same things,its not nobs,its high lvl players who play game long as me,if we all saying same thing and complain about same stuff,why cant you ,plarium workers,understand that.what else should we do?to leave game and delete account ,so you can recruit new players and milk them til their wallets are dry?

before your BAD changes of the game,there were pvp tournament every weekend and every other weekend persian tournament,rewards was good,for 10k pvp points it was 480 REGULAR promachos,or 960 thure,now they are not even close on 2.2x reward,thats the problem you dont want to see.why to go to war and kill troops from other players if you gonna loose much more then you will get as reward,what is the point?now you give saris rewards,or imperial promachos,thure,and small number of them,when new tournament show up,i open just to see which troops are on rewards,i see imperial troops,i skip tournament,why?because imperial troops have no value on persians,and thats why a lot players lost all troops they'v builded for months and years,and you Alyona answer to me:every troop have certain value :(  i didnt say that only one time,i said many times,and then some strange players(disguised moderators)answer its not truth,and all players who read that dont know who to believe,and when they loose all army,they understand who is right.I PLAY game every day,i PLAY PERSIANS,you,Alyona and Nikita meteor,DONT PLAY GAME AT ALL,so I KNOW and you DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TROOPS VALUE ON PERSIANS.i am sick and tired of typing and complaining here anymore,it is like talking with the wall,nothing changes,no result,when you loose all players and kill the game,then you will understand but its gonna be too late,and SULFUR will explain to you how greed is bad!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

Tonaya 

Take your time and build your army slowly, gain drachma through pvp slowly and then in about a year of meticulously and painstakingly developing your army, you will lose it all in one hit from some guy that bought his army the week prior. ROFL

Tonaya said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Do you mean some specific Tournaments, or in general? 

in general,Alyona,in any tournament rewards are too small and there is no reason to play any tournament.i skip almost every other tournament,because we loose troops all the time and rewards are cheap.i'v posted for small rewards few times,you or delete my post because i'm violator of something,or your answer is :its all ok,just put more money in the game and everything gonna be ok :(

i play game more then 2 years,i know all players who complain on forum,about same things,its not nobs,its high lvl players who play game long as me,if we all saying same thing and complain about same stuff,why cant you ,plarium workers,understand that.what else should we do?to leave game and delete account ,so you can recruit new players and milk them til their wallets are dry?

before your BAD changes of the game,there were pvp tournament every weekend and every other weekend persian tournament,rewards was good,for 10k pvp points it was 480 REGULAR promachos,or 960 thure,now they are not even close on 2.2x reward,thats the problem you dont want to see.why to go to war and kill troops from other players if you gonna loose much more then you will get as reward,what is the point?now you give saris rewards,or imperial promachos,thure,and small number of them,when new tournament show up,i open just to see which troops are on rewards,i see imperial troops,i skip tournament,why?because imperial troops have no value on persians,and thats why a lot players lost all troops they'v builded for months and years,and you Alyona answer to me:every troop have certain value :(  i didnt say that only one time,i said many times,and then some strange players(disguised moderators)answer its not truth,and all players who read that dont know who to believe,and when they loose all army,they understand who is right.I PLAY game every day,i PLAY PERSIANS,you,Alyona and Nikita meteor,DONT PLAY GAME AT ALL,so I KNOW and you DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TROOPS VALUE ON PERSIANS.i am sick and tired of typing and complaining here anymore,it is like talking with the wall,nothing changes,no result,when you loose all players and kill the game,then you will understand but its gonna be too late,and SULFUR will explain to you how greed is bad!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

Tonaya 

We would like to emphasize that Tournaments should not be considered the only way to receive Units, Crystals, or Items. Tournaments may add a bonus to all actions you perform in the game, such as fighting rivals, capturing Pantheons, attacking and defending Persian Positions, developing your City, etc., but they are only a nice addition. The main purpose of the aforementioned actions is to get Resources from Raids, rewards from PPs, and actively develop your City.

Also, Tournament rewards have always been subject to change. We regularly add some new Items, remove some old ones, change the amounts of things you get, etc. Our developers carefully calculate each Tournament reward emphasizing that rewards are a bonus, not the main point of participating in Tournaments. There are, however, rewards that can only be obtained in Tournaments. Those have a greater value since they are rare, and we do want players to participate in Tournaments to get them.

the only new game feature that I really would like is the 'messages bug'   

It's about 6 months we have it now. If the dev's of Plarium Games shall implement the new features you are refering to now Alyona in also that timeframe , then at least we still have something to look forward  

And if you really can count? We had in that timeframe of the messages bug already 37 new packages offers, with a totally different outlook of it      

 I really start to think that we have to buy your slaved dev's free. I have no other reasons why all these packages shows up.       

i agree with all what Hundigo said on last 2 posts.

1.with so many tournaments now,we simply dont have time to build troops for any of them.(one of the reasons why i ask to speed up troops build time for double,Alyona answered DECLINED)

Alyona said:We would like to emphasize that Tournaments should not be considered the only way to receive Units, Crystals, or Items. Tournaments may add a bonus to all actions you perform in the game, such as fighting rivals, capturing Pantheons, attacking and defending Persian Positions, developing your City, etc., but they are only a nice addition. The main purpose of the aforementioned actions is to get Resources from Raids, rewards from PPs, and actively develop your City.

1.what crystals you are talking about?

2.for all others you said,we need troops to participate on capturing pantheons,capital,PP....we cant play if we dont have troops,right?

players dont have troops because you changed pp system,and nikita meteor said no more cheating with 1 bar strategy it is better to play from one hit....some players listened to nikita and they lost all troops on pp,i'v msged all my members NOT TO PLAY FROM 1 HIT OR THEY WILL LOOSE ALL TROOPS!who listened to me,have army,who didnt he dont have.btw if nikita played more then 20 pp in her/his life,i will take my 38 special and shot myself!

what is result of nikita's smart words to play from 1 hit=players dont have any more troops.what can player do when he dont have any troops?he can raid for resources with swords?that is fun?he can build troops again,how much time needed to build 100 macs for raid?do you know,Alyona?no,you dont know,because you dont play game.Player can participate in some tournaments to collect some troops from rewards and to try to get his troops back from pp.IF YOU GIVE IMPERIAL TROOPS as rewards from tournaments,it is impossible,because IMPERIAL TROOPS HAVE NO VALUE on PP because they are not made with RESOURCES  and they dont fill the bank on PP.on PP its all about how much you are in with RESOURCES and when you are IN enough,you get payout.loosing imperial troops  on pp is useless.

and of course,there are one easy way out,put money in game and REVIVE troops you've lost on PP,right?

did you,Alyona,ever looked on some player graveyard?how much drachmas is needed to revive troops you lost on PP on 75% discount?

NO,you didnt.why?because you,Alyona,dont play game at all and you dont play persians.

amount of drachmas needed to revive troops from graveyard after playing PP from 1 hit,like smart nikita said,is like brand new car.

so what we should do?to put money in game and not to eat for 1 month?

interesting is,that all changes plarium made in last 1 year or so,is to players loose their troops faster,and because of SLOW build time,only solution is to REVIVE with real MONEY(1 new car=troops are alive again).

and with this pantheon massacre and capital flag tournament its even worst,and finally some blind people can see what is your BALANCE in game.BALANCE=MONEY.

FUN does not exist ANYMORE in this game.

i'v just calculated today,where i am in bank on PP,and it makes me SICK!! 

i'v burned 83.584.376

=83.5 million in resources,for last 2 months or more,only building high cost troops

i need to burn more 86.374.045=86 million in resources

and then to try for payout.

btw,everything in my academy(troops speed time)is on maximum!

do you,Alyona,know how much time is needed to build troops worth 86 million in resources?

i dont know either,but around 3 months or more,raiding every day,all raids,and only build,and of course if someone dont kill me in the mean time.

does it looks like FUN,Alyona?

more fun is to argue here on forum with you >:(

there it is,i try to plastic explain to you,Alyona,what is the problem with this game,and if all ,2 years players,80-100 lvl players,telling you, and other moderators, few months same things,same problems,same suggestions...few months! and you,Alyona and other moderators,DECLINED 99% of those suggestions,and you give no explanation then famous game BALANCE.

i think,or it is something wrong with your game developers(not listening to costumers) or it is simply plariums goal in this game GIVE US MORE MONEY.i think its 2nd reason,you are not stupid there.

you did apply 1 of my suggestions,troops from capital to return to acropolis ,but you didnt implement it in game and that was 2,3 months ago!

WHEN ITS GONNA HAPPEN,ALYONA?

you cant disable ghost msgs and reports 2,3 months! WHY? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR SMART DEVELOPERS?

i stil didnt get answer,WHY in TOTAL DOMINATION relocation pools cost 700 drachmas and discount on wheel of fortune goes to 70%,and here in sparta everything cost so much?

and just to show you how Tonaya read you like open book,i'm gonna tell you,Alyona,what you will do next,with my post

this time you wont delete my post,you gonna skip 70% of my words,and just answer what you want,why?because you can :D

i hope i didnt violate something this time,as you can see i try to behave,but it is stronger then me and i must give you one great idea,if problem is not in you,Alyona,then in your game developers or your 6 greedy bosses(funny is that all 6 bosses is from one special country,maybe there is that problem with greed? ) 

maybe if your game developers take those crystals(which i dont know what they are,but i assume they are sharp)and all those flags,from capital massacre,if they stick them there where sun dont shine,maybe they will understand it all and start to listen to costumers and start to do their job

ps.i didnt use single rude word and i didnt violate nothing,so,please ,mighty Alyona,dont delete my post,read it 2 times if you needed and answer to me for all i just ask and said

you know Tonaya love you,just my love to you Alyona is weird 

Tonaya 

Tonaya said:

1.what crystals you are talking about?

2.for all others you said,we need troops to participate on capturing pantheons,capital,PP....we cant play if we dont have troops,right?

3. did you,Alyona,ever looked on some player graveyard?how much drachmas is needed to revive troops you lost on PP on 75% discount?

4. and with this pantheon massacre and capital flag tournament its even worst,and finally some blind people can see what is your BALANCE in game.BALANCE=MONEY.

FUN does not exist ANYMORE in this game.

5) you did apply 1 of my suggestions,troops from capital to return to acropolis ,but you didnt implement it in game and that was 2,3 months ago!

WHEN ITS GONNA HAPPEN,ALYONA?

6) you cant disable ghost msgs and reports 2,3 months! WHY? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR SMART DEVELOPERS?

7) i stil didnt get answer,WHY in TOTAL DOMINATION relocation pools cost 700 drachmas and discount on wheel of fortune goes to 70%,and here in sparta everything cost so much?

Tonaya 

1) Drachmas, sorry :)

2) Right, you can't attack anything without Units. But the good news is that you can a) build them, b) get them as the reward for quests and Achievements, c) Get them from Tournaments, d) Buy them with Drachmas that can be received in Tournaments, Quests, Achievements, Rankings, Emporia (yeah, I know you don't like them much, we're working on that part).

3) Sure I did. The numbers for some players are incredible. However, it's not necessary to revive all of your lost Units. You can always choose the strategy that is the best for you - either train Units, or revive, or receive them as a reward for your game activities.

4) Too bad that you feel that way, Tonaya. Our new Tournaments were created to allow players participate in new kinds of game activities, and do it together with their Coalition members. 

5) I don't have this answer, unfortunately. Development of each feature takes time. Please be patient.

6) Our devs are working on a fix. As soon as it's ready, it will be implemented.

7) Different games have different economy. It's normal that some prices are different in different games. 

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Tonaya said:

1.what crystals you are talking about?

2.for all others you said,we need troops to participate on capturing pantheons,capital,PP....we cant play if we dont have troops,right?

3. did you,Alyona,ever looked on some player graveyard?how much drachmas is needed to revive troops you lost on PP on 75% discount?

4. and with this pantheon massacre and capital flag tournament its even worst,and finally some blind people can see what is your BALANCE in game.BALANCE=MONEY.

FUN does not exist ANYMORE in this game.

5) you did apply 1 of my suggestions,troops from capital to return to acropolis ,but you didnt implement it in game and that was 2,3 months ago!

WHEN ITS GONNA HAPPEN,ALYONA?

6) you cant disable ghost msgs and reports 2,3 months! WHY? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR SMART DEVELOPERS?

7) i stil didnt get answer,WHY in TOTAL DOMINATION relocation pools cost 700 drachmas and discount on wheel of fortune goes to 70%,and here in sparta everything cost so much?

Tonaya 

1) Drachmas, sorry :)

2) Right, you can't attack anything without Units. But the good news is that you can a) build them, b) get them as the reward for quests and Achievements, c) Get them from Tournaments, d) Buy them with Drachmas that can be received in Tournaments, Quests, Achievements, Rankings, Emporia (yeah, I know you don't like them much, we're working on that part).

3) Sure I did. The numbers for some players are incredible. However, it's not necessary to revive all of your lost Units. You can always choose the strategy that is the best for you - either train Units, or revive, or receive them as a reward for your game activities.

4) Too bad that you feel that way, Tonaya. Our new Tournaments were created to allow players participate in new kinds of game activities, and do it together with their Coalition members. 

5) I don't have this answer, unfortunately. Development of each feature takes time. Please be patient.

6) Our devs are working on a fix. As soon as it's ready, it will be implemented.

7) Different games have different economy. It's normal that some prices are different in different games. 

Alyona,i play game more then 2 years and i'm a hegemon,i know all about game and you explaining to me like i dont know anything ^^

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Hundigo, the game evolves, and so do our players. Changes are inevitable. I'm sure that you enjoy the new game features.

Alyona,to evolve is when monkey evolve to a man,and with your game changing its the opposite,you want from us to go up on trees again and to eat bananas,but we'v been there and now we are down on the ground^^change game in different direction,from worst to better,not the other way around

Tonaya

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Hundigo, the game evolves, and so do our players. Changes are inevitable. I'm sure that you enjoy the new game features.

Alyona,to evolve is when monkey evolve to a man,and with your game changing its the opposite,you want from us to go up on trees again and to eat bananas,but we'v been there and now we are down on the ground^^change game in different direction,from worst to better,not the other way around

Tonaya

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Tonaya said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Hundigo, the game evolves, and so do our players. Changes are inevitable. I'm sure that you enjoy the new game features.

Alyona,to evolve is when monkey evolve to a man,and with your game changing its the opposite,you want from us to go up on trees again and to eat bananas,but we'v been there and now we are down on the ground^^change game in different direction,from worst to better,not the other way around

Tonaya

Maybe you have some suggestions for our devs? :)

i had a lot suggestions Alyona,you already declined all,but 1,and you didnt apply it in game yet

for game  devs i have only  bananas  :P

Tonaya said:

i had a lot suggestions Alyona,you already declined all,but 1,and you didnt apply it in game yet

for game  devs i have only  bananas  :P

Tonaya 

Once the idea is submitted in the community, I pass it further to our devs. When there are enough suggestions, they consider each idea. Sometimes they make a fast decision, and sometimes they need more time for consideration. Some ideas require data analysis and cooperation with several teams. 

Even if it is accepted, it doesn't mean that it will appear in next update. It's added to the work plans, and as soon as our developers have enough time and resources for it, they will start working on this idea.

Besides your suggestions they have long-term plans for game development, and there are some features which must be done according to their plan. That's why our player suggestions may be postponed for some period of time.

In some cases it seems that the task is very simple and it can be done till the next update, but when they start working on it, they find out that it's not that easy and they need more time to put into it. Or there can be some technical complications. 

I hope this information helps you to better understand why we don't implement your suggestions right away.

As for the ones that were declined, I always give player a reason why. Also, I've added a thread called "Which suggestions we (do not) accept" so you could have a general understanding of the limitations that apply to player suggestions, and why I say "no" in certain cases.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Tonaya said:

i had a lot suggestions Alyona,you already declined all,but 1,and you didnt apply it in game yet

for game  devs i have only  bananas  :P

Tonaya 

Once the idea is submitted in the community, I pass it further to our devs. When there are enough suggestions, they consider each idea. Sometimes they make a fast decision, and sometimes they need more time for consideration. Some ideas require data analysis and cooperation with several teams. 

Even if it is accepted, it doesn't mean that it will appear in next update. It's added to the work plans, and as soon as our developers have enough time and resources for it, they will start working on this idea.

Besides your suggestions they have long-term plans for game development, and there are some features which must be done according to their plan. That's why our player suggestions may be postponed for some period of time.

In some cases it seems that the task is very simple and it can be done till the next update, but when they start working on it, they find out that it's not that easy and they need more time to put into it. Or there can be some technical complications. 

I hope this information helps you to better understand why we don't implement your suggestions right away.

As for the ones that were declined, I always give player a reason why. Also, I've added a thread called "Which suggestions we (do not) accept" so you could have a general understanding of the limitations that apply to player suggestions, and why I say "no" in certain cases.

but it is same as you applyed already for pantheons,troops from capital to go directly to acropolis and not in the city,it shouldnt be so complicated to apply if they already apply it for pantheons.and it was 2 or more months ago