My last payout was for 140mil, i just finished another lvl 138 with a total of 190 mil invested and still didnt get payout. After the b.s. reward i got now im at 180 mil invested. Does anyone have suggestions on how to get my payout without smashing my laptop in the process?
Wait to smash your laptop.
Plarium Games already working with all their teams on a new drachma package 
with includes a new laptop 
They can't even fix a bug with the reports, but you shall discover they are verry fast in creating new drachma packages 
for the needs of their "hardcore gamers". Totally free of course to start.... if you have payed for a VIP agent.... 
Hundigo, please, stop spreading false information on forum.Wait to smash your laptop.
Plarium Games already working with all their teams on a new drachma package
They can't even fix a bug with the reports, but you shall discover they are verry fast in creating new drachma packages
he is not spreading false info there ...They can't even fix a bug with the reports, but you shall discover they are verry fast in creating new drachma packages
there is a large percentage loss with each payout, some say its 17-20%, but acording my losses its more than 30 %. so playing often in persians will lead to enormous and permanent losses of army.was it always like this or has it changed and gotten worse?
Hello Archons
PLAY PP's is actualy VERY SIMPLE, its not about luck, you just need to know half a dozen things, and you don't need spreadsheets, their even are also a way to find out if your "bank" is full or not, but if you don't have anything else to do, you can waste your time on spreadsheets, and whine yourselfs in forums. ..
With all this said, be smart, and play with your brain, not with your heart.
Best regards
What you gonna tell here moderator Nuno Paiva ?
That all the players that made topics and posts on the forum are 'STUPID' ? Or that they doesn't have any 'BRAINS' ?
They only thing you did with your post is protecting Plarium with your silly answer and that just to protect your daily drachma pay out and nothing else, because you don't have any cleu what happend ingame.
You get payed by Plarium , at the start it was to help the players, and to help Plarium with their forum. So as long you don't write that guideline that explaines every detail of the PP's and that with solid proof how it works, you are just the biggest 'whiner' on the forum, that revives all the time his troops with what he gain in drachma's as moderator and that ones and a while post how much pay-out he has but never post any picture or post on how much he had to spend to able to gain it .
Players are a little bit smarter then you think they are and they are more civilazed then you think they are. Not any time I had one messaged back from different authorities worldwide that I'm a 'whiner'. They only thing I had as answer is; we agree with your argumentations, it only takes time to have that in regulations and laws to protect the players.
Nuno Paiva said:
you just need to know half a dozen things
We're all ears.. 
Hello Kakos
My statment is based on facts, based on my experience and some of my members playing PP's, studying what those "gurus" said, in short, losing a little more time on what we think it is an important aspect of the game, and gathered all the pieces, we discovered some mechanisms by ourselfs, no one taught us anything, by which I believe it should be so.
EVERYTHING i said in this post is TRUE and SERIOUS, all you have to do is find out for yourselfs.
I agree that some of the mods in here just treat the players like mushrooms, keep us in the dark and feed us bu-ll sh-it, Keep investing in a hope that you get a payback, thats the same ...it they tell everyone here in Las Vegas. At least here in las vegas they post the rules and they dont change them in the middle of the game. I tried the method everyone says to try, I got a payout of 2,000,00 then I invested in the bank 3 million and got a payout of 3.4 million then I invest over 5 million and no payout, I write down every man I lose and I subtract every man I win as I try to figure out when the bank is going to pay out, there is NO WAY to know. The bank has been paid out almost twice of what it paid me last time, Im getting sick of this game your playing with PP. nothing is true to what we are told and I will prove it. When I do get paid back I will come back and let everyone know, either your all liars or I will apologies and tell everyone that what your telling us is the truth, but so far I have heard your b s long enough and have never seen a player that has been proven wrong otherwise that your telling the truth, only the mods say its true and no one trust that line. So time will tell when I post how much I invested and how much I was paid back for my investment. Unless I get booted out of the game because you dont want player to know the truth. Lets see if this gets posted so other players can read it.
And still no one answered Tagtrenfans question, just skirted around it. Like usual. I never saw a business, were they are so hated by their customers. I worked in Silicon Valley for 50 years, I have shopped in every major city in the USA and Plarium is the worst company when it come to pleasing their customers, if you would have treated your customers right from the very beginning you would be 10 times bigger than you are, eventually you will run out of customers because you dont treat us like customers. Players shouldnt feel like they got ripped off.jgvrolijk85rsa said:
Aaagh Kakos ... whine-whine-whine as usual.
At best you have me confused for someone else, at worst you're just slinging mud..
About the rest of your post;
"If you read the forums you will know that Moderators will not let you in on the secrets of Persian Positions, because Plarium does not want that"
Your "conspiracy theories" are just nonsense..
"The post from Nuno was as respectful as you'll ever get on any forum"
Posting in a thread of someone who just lost 198m and saying that winning in PPs is "VERY SIMPLE" is quite callous, insensitive and totally disrespectful IMHO. Adding insult to injury, instead of offering some advise he comes up with homilies like "play with your brain, not your heart", thank you Mother Teresa..
"Also, and others have said this to you before, please keep your apparent self-esteem issues out of the forums, and don't take it out on perfectly good people. Your sense of entitlement is worse than that of African Politicians ... or on par. Get a grip please."
