Hello everybody,
Here you can post your experience and opinion about persians and the newly modified system of rewarding there.
Is there somthing wrong with them, or now system is more ballanced?
no balance anymore
i lost today 25M offense
bank is not working anymore
boosts with 50% are not effective , you will loose much more then before
hope they fix it soon otherwise only casual palying
Server update ??
will fix persians ??
any message to support , will be not answered. And if you get an answer , it will be very polite and give you no real help in your matter.
we are all like dummies for them, we have to test out everything, if it is wrong , you are happy to find the bug , but what you loose is gone forever and they dont care . this is real good service on the costumer.
You lost 25mil offense. now you use another 5mil offense to recover from PP. so total u invest 30mil. you get payout of 15mil. 50% straight loss. good game and enjoy lolServer update ??
will fix persians ??
any message to support , will be not answered. And if you get an answer , it will be very polite and give you no real help in your matter.
we are all like dummies for them, we have to test out everything, if it is wrong , you are happy to find the bug , but what you loose is gone forever and they dont care . this is real good service on the costumer.
Persian Positions are just pathetic since the upgrade. I used to hit them heavy. I had over 10 000 Agemas that I used to smash them with. Now they are nearly all gone. Swapped for Sarrs. I don't even think that the bank works anymore. I messaged Plarium and told them that I thought that there must be a bug with the new Upgrade for persians. I told them that I am down 35 Million Offense. There reply to me was just ridiculous, links to beginners pages explaining how persians worked.
Something has to be done. I used to enjoy Persians. Now I just play them trying to get my troops back and digging myself a bigger hole.
Why do you think they're pointless, EBOLA?I just explained the entire mechanics. 50% straight loss. was i wrong?
Fully agree. Had the same experience only with deffPersian Positions are just pathetic since the upgrade. I used to hit them heavy. I had over 10 000 Agemas that I used to smash them with. Now they are nearly all gone. Swapped for Sarrs. I don't even think that the bank works anymore. I messaged Plarium and told them that I thought that there must be a bug with the new Upgrade for persians. I told them that I am down 35 Million Offense. There reply to me was just ridiculous, links to beginners pages explaining how persians worked.
Something has to be done. I used to enjoy Persians. Now I just play them trying to get my troops back and digging myself a bigger hole.
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:
Why do you think they're pointless, EBOLA?The PP used to me an effective way of upgrading light and heavy, at 80% loss that was OK and only slightly worse than the best 2x pvp tourneys. Now the losses seem to be larger there is no point to it.
ebola said:
The PP used to me an effective way of upgrading light and heavy, at 80% loss that was OK and only slightly worse than the best 2x pvp tourneys. Now the losses seem to be larger there is no point to it.
But we didn't increase "losses". In fact, only one strategy was affected by the change.
And changes were not about getting payouts later, or with bigger losses. It was about not getting overwhelming payouts (actually there were only a few players who really were affected by the change).
Well u changed the one bar system which could influence normal players and payouts. If the one bar changes make the payout suck then depending on how it works then people who play normally could still be affected by this change.
Let say if i 1 bar 1 positions and complete all others normally will the payout suck. There is no info on what affects this system has.
How many positions do u need to 1 bar before the system thinks your cheating.
What if u dont complete a position because u got no troops left, does the system flag u as a 1 bar cheater.
Since we dont know how system works, it could be punishing everyone since payouts suck.
Besides that the new level payout 140+ have less good rewards then lower positions.
Yes, our change has affected 1-bar strategy, But not the size of payouts you can get by using it. You will just need to 1-bar more Positions to receive a big payout than before.Well u changed the one bar system which could influence normal players and payouts. If the one bar changes make the payout suck then depending on how it works then people who play normally could still be affected by this change.
Let say if i 1 bar 1 positions and complete all others normally will the payout suck. There is no info on what affects this system has.
How many positions do u need to 1 bar before the system thinks your cheating.
What if u dont complete a position because u got no troops left, does the system flag u as a 1 bar cheater.
Since we dont know how system works, it could be punishing everyone since payouts suck.
Besides that the new level payout 140+ have less good rewards then lower positions.
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:
Yes, our change has affected 1-bar strategy, But not the size of payouts you can get by using it. You will just need to 1-bar more Positions to receive a big payout than before.
I do not think you understand what everyone keeps saying. Please allow me to explain it in most simplest terms using hypothetical examples too.
Bottom line is Plarium capped max bank loan (reward) but did not cap the max repayment for the bank loan so here are my hypothetical examples for you based on you hitting the max payout at level 125 and then repaying the loan and hitting 125 for the next reward and SO ON and SO ON:
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 90 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 100 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 110 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 120 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 130 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 140 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources paid loan, 150 million resources
I can keep going but I hope and pray you finally get the point of what everyone is saying rather than assume it's the actual method of playing Persians that we are complaining about.
Bank loan is capped but repayment is not capped and increases each time you pay it back
RIX said:
I do not think you understand what everyone keeps saying. Please allow me to explain it in most simplest terms using hypothetical examples too.
Bottom line is Plarium capped max bank loan (reward) but did not cap the max repayment for the bank loan so here are my hypothetical examples for you based on you hitting the max payout at level 125 and then repaying the loan and hitting 125 for the next reward and SO ON and SO ON:
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 90 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 100 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 110 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 120 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 130 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources, paid loan 140 million resources
Level 125: max payout 100 million resources paid loan, 150 million resources
I can keep going but I hope and pray you finally get the point of what everyone is saying rather than assume it's the actual method of playing Persians that we are complaining about.
Bank loan is capped but repayment is not capped and increases each time you pay it back
Thank you, Rix. May I ask some questions about your example? Just for better understanding.
So you mean that there is some kind of % you need to return to the Bank after each payout, right?
So in your examples, you pay 90 mil, then 100 mil, then 110 mil, etc. And each time the max payout you can get is 100 mil.
But why do you pay more each time, if the 125 position is the highest level (let's imagine it is).
Following your logic, you should have paid 110 mil each time, because the % size depends on the payout size.
I know, I'm a bad student, but I really want to understand you
And one more question.
Let's say your chain continues. There will be a moment when you will need to pay 200+ mil to receive a 100 mil payout. But as the bank already has 100+ mil extra, shouldn't it give you one more 100 mil payout without new investments? Just curious, if you've been at that point.Alyona Kolomiitseva said:
Thank you, Rix. May I ask some questions about your example? Just for better understanding.
1) So you mean that there is some kind of % you need to return to the Bank after each payout, right?
2) So in your examples, you pay 90 mil, then 100 mil, then 110 mil, etc. And each time the max payout you can get is 100 mil.
3) But why do you pay more each time, if the 125 position is the highest level (let's imagine it is).
4) Following your logic, you should have paid 110 mil each time, because the % size depends on the payout size.
I know, I'm a bad student, but I really want to understand you
And one more question.
5) Let's say your chain continues. There will be a moment when you will need to pay 200+ mil to receive a 100 mil payout. But as the bank already has 100+ mil extra, shouldn't it give you one more 100 mil payout without new investments? Just curious, if you've been at that point.
Alyona'
1) YES
2) YES
3) Because Plarium capped the payout at some point but failed to cap the loan
4) YES! You should net a profit of about 10% as the loan increases and you do until you reach the largest payout in the game then my example kicks in for good
5) Exactly! The bank continues to grow and grow but the payout once you pay the bank back remnains the same. Persians have an END game, So everyone's point was once you reach level 125, there is no longer a point to play Persians and let's be honest here, Persians are fun when you profit.
Finally you see what everyone is crying about 
RIX I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WHEN I SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO PLARIUM!!!Alyona Kolomiitseva said:
Thank you, Rix. May I ask some questions about your example? Just for better understanding.
1) So you mean that there is some kind of % you need to return to the Bank after each payout, right?
2) So in your examples, you pay 90 mil, then 100 mil, then 110 mil, etc. And each time the max payout you can get is 100 mil.
3) But why do you pay more each time, if the 125 position is the highest level (let's imagine it is).
4) Following your logic, you should have paid 110 mil each time, because the % size depends on the payout size.
I know, I'm a bad student, but I really want to understand you
And one more question.
5) Let's say your chain continues. There will be a moment when you will need to pay 200+ mil to receive a 100 mil payout. But as the bank already has 100+ mil extra, shouldn't it give you one more 100 mil payout without new investments? Just curious, if you've been at that point.Alyona'
1) YES
2) YES
3) Because Plarium capped the payout at some point but failed to cap the loan
4) YES! You should net a profit of about 10% as the loan increases and you do until you reach the largest payout in the game then my example kicks in for good
5) Exactly! The bank continues to grow and grow but the payout once you pay the bank back remnains the same. Persians have an END game, So everyone's point was once you reach level 125, there is no longer a point to play Persians and let's be honest here, Persians are fun when you profit.
Finally you see what everyone is crying about
You're welcome brotherRIX I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WHEN I SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO PLARIUM!!!
After upgrade i continued plaing persians and after several payouts i ended with 5 mil offense loss ans 2 mil def loss.
what i mean is instead of getting resourses (army ) back, they are all gone , FOREVER.
Now i am trying to rebuild. Persians and persian tourneys are no more for me...
