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16 июнь 2016, 09:0316.06.16
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General Item Drops (Compiled Data)

Last update: 12 July 2016 (PROJECT NOW RETIRED)


I wanted to share what I have found about the item drops in the new general feature. Below is selected information based on what I have been able to gather. I will update as I find out more.  There are 2 issues to note: (1) I got 2 legendary drops before I started tracking so the rarity numbers are a little off and (2) I am only hitting positions up to around 30 so I don't have data for higher level positions.

Update 1:

Class level thresholds follow a 20 level pattern (thank you NECAB15-GAMES for confirming).

Update 2:

Correlation coefficients are now added for level, position type, rarity and item type. At the moment, nothing appears to be correlated, but hopefully the picture will continue to become clear as time goes on.

Update 3:

There is now a public sheet where you can log your positions as you take them. I will pull in and compile all the data once a day.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M2DWrFlMastziV37A8kZxbYBASWI1PGaNLbz_oJT3QA/edit?usp=sharing 

The overall spreadsheet can be found here here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q8dGjkP5LRJM3kjTIti5lv_0s0IBvH0DbMlydg_cb1A/edit?usp=sharing



Total Number of Data Points
241
Key Drop Rarity
2.07%
Rarity Dispersion
Common 201 84.7%
Uncommon 31 12.9%
Rare 4 1.7%
Legendary 2 0.8%
Class Level Thresholds
Class 1 1
Class 2 21
Class 3 41
Class 4 61
Correlation Coefficients
Level : Rarity 0.0104
Level : Item type -0.0114
Position type : Rarity -0.1124
Position type : Item type 0.0893




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16 июнь 2016, 09:2616.06.16
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Thank you for sharing this. I'm sure that many players will be glad to get such info.
16 июнь 2016, 14:4416.06.16
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16 июнь 2016, 14:5916.06.16
03.08.15
505

would be nice if it was for higher positions! Ask your coal for more data!!
20 июнь 2016, 19:5320.06.16
231746

Well I played only 1 PP and got box class 3 .. I'd clear lvl16 (special PP) 

I hope I have helped you a bit  
21 июнь 2016, 18:0321.06.16
231746
excellent info! Many thanks I shall put this to good use!
3 авг. 2016, 07:3803.08.16
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pom said:

i hit about 40 positions in range 61-65 and only 1 uncommon chest (class 4) dropped.

its either too rare or i have to go up to get better items...

I think there are more chances to get better equipment on higher levels.
12 авг. 2016, 00:5512.08.16
27.01.15
546
The good stuff is up top but I have only gotten 1 class 4 legendary chest above level 70.  99% of the time it's all class 4 common, uncommon and rare and I've played higher levels until I have filled every single slot purchasable and the temporary slots too
22 авг. 2016, 11:5022.08.16
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Hi, TLS, I'd like to show you something: http://wiki.plarium.com/index.php?title=SF_Hero_Equipment 

As you can see, your information is being used not only by Sparta players, but also by Stormfall players. Well done! And keep up a good work!

27 авг. 2016, 08:0127.08.16
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hahahahahahaaa
30 авг. 2016, 07:5330.08.16
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Is there a relation to geography as well ?
2 сент. 2016, 19:1802.09.16
30.03.15
8

i am very close to leaving this game, i find the constant ' moving the goalposts' extremely annoying, positions are a prime example of this. The ' General' is an almighty con, you are better off keeping your original 'off/ def'.

i have completed all 'scrolls' and yet i still get them as a so called reward, and can't trade them, i have some 2000 silver caduceus which i will never use but i cannot sell or trade them.

upgrades in 'off/def' seem to count for nothing in cap city, i still lose massive amounts of units in positions for very little gain.

my son has an acc here also and despite the fact that he has very little in the way of upgrades in Academy seems to build the same amount of units as i do on a daily basis, i have no upgrades left to do, he has hundreds yet we still build close to the same amount of units, WHY,

i can send 5000 thuros at a 150 position and win and yet i can send 200000 thuros at a 150 position and lose 5000 ????? am i missing something here, this is with all my gen and cap city upgrades.

the 50/60% upgrades should mean 50/60% not some weird maths calculation that plarium have invented.

as i said earlier i am close to leaving this game and if things do not change 'i will'
5 сент. 2016, 08:3805.09.16
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jackovitch said:


i am very close to leaving this game, i find the constant ' moving the goalposts' extremely annoying, positions are a prime example of this. The ' General' is an almighty con, you are better off keeping your original 'off/ def'.

i have completed all 'scrolls' and yet i still get them as a so called reward, and can't trade them, i have some 2000 silver caduceus which i will never use but i cannot sell or trade them.

upgrades in 'off/def' seem to count for nothing in cap city, i still lose massive amounts of units in positions for very little gain.

my son has an acc here also and despite the fact that he has very little in the way of upgrades in Academy seems to build the same amount of units as i do on a daily basis, i have no upgrades left to do, he has hundreds yet we still build close to the same amount of units, WHY,

i can send 5000 thuros at a 150 position and win and yet i can send 200000 thuros at a 150 position and lose 5000 ????? am i missing something here, this is with all my gen and cap city upgrades.

the 50/60% upgrades should mean 50/60% not some weird maths calculation that plarium have invented.

as i said earlier i am close to leaving this game and if things do not change 'i will'

As I already said in another thread, our devs are considering if there need to be any changes made to PPs right now.

They are also aware of the "Caduces" issue. They will find a way to resolve it.

There are several game features which allow you to build Units faster. And we are planning to add some more. 

As for the bonus calculations, I could explain you in more details if you wish. 

 Let's imagine 1 builder can build a house in 1 day (or 24 hours).

Earlier our Bonuses were cutting the construction time. Let's say the bonus is 50%. In that case 1 builder will build 1 house in 12 hours (50% less).

But a few months ago we have changed the way your bonuses are applied. Now they rise speed instead of cutting the time.

How does it work?

Let's imagine that our builder started working 50% faster.

It means that 1 builder will build 1,5 houses in 1 day (24 hours), or 1 house in 16 hours. Not 12 like it would be if the Bonus cut the building time for a house.

The same formula is behind all construction/training/etc. bonuses.

7 сент. 2016, 16:1707.09.16
1
Thank you
8 сент. 2016, 11:0008.09.16
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balantrodoch said:

Thank you
You're welcome. If you have any questions, please ask.
29 сент. 2016, 05:0829.09.16
27.08.16
1
:)
16 окт. 2016, 18:4716.10.16
27.01.15
546
You can no longer get class 4 items at positions 70-90. Or at least in my case I can't.  I play PP quite often and now I am getting close to 50% of my general items as coffers.  I just destroy them too.  They are a waste of time.
17 окт. 2016, 11:1817.10.16
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RIX said:

You can no longer get class 4 items at positions 70-90. Or at least in my case I can't.  I play PP quite often and now I am getting close to 50% of my general items as coffers.  I just destroy them too.  They are a waste of time.
We didn't change the drop rates.
24 дек. 2016, 00:5724.12.16
13.02.16
40

Hi , I paid 1800 Drachmas (approx USD9.90 advertised) for a Legendary Class 2 box Key, opened it , but I already had the same item equipped.

Which I also paid 1,800 Drachmas for another Key earlier.  

Can the game please not duplicate the General's Items if opening Boxes ? 

Thanks 


26 дек. 2016, 10:2426.12.16
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Flipper said:

Hi , I paid 1800 Drachmas (approx USD9.90 advertised) for a Legendary Class 2 box Key, opened it , but I already had the same item equipped.

Which I also paid 1,800 Drachmas for another Key earlier.  

Can the game please not duplicate the General's Items if opening Boxes ? 

Thanks 


Hi! Unfortunately, you get a random Item when you open a Chest. So you need to always remember that there's a chance that the Item you get will be a duplicate of what you already have. 
26 дек. 2016, 13:0026.12.16
13.02.16
40

Hi , in that case the Class 2 Legendary 1800 drachmas Key cannot be costing US$10.50 (being US$9.90 for 1650 drachmas the normal rate).


It should be much much lower than that, because of the Duplicate issue.  Either that, or allow us to trade General's Items.

Thank you