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Apr 16, 2016, 08:2704/16/16
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Persian Position

For the last three days I have been teaching an entire coalition on how to do PP. but no one believes me. Just goes to show that most of the players are losing out on a very fun aspect of the game. I think if Plarium just showed everyone what their bank level was we could see much more PP activity and a lot of players have been recommending this for some time now. btw, mini reduction was not 5% so I dont know what you guys are saying. seems more like 95% reduction.
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Apr 16, 2016, 09:2504/16/16
12/14/14
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WARNING !!!


Nobody should attempt positions.. the tweak was so hard..  one can not even come close to breaking even now..


Good Luck..



Apr 16, 2016, 14:4604/16/16
Apr 16, 2016, 15:11(edited)
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Partials payouts have been dramatically reduced, but full payouts are normal AFAIK.


Remember before the previous change, you were getting NO PARTIAL AT ALL, and everybody yelled when they were introduced.


Lower partials should mean lower banks to pay back, thus more frequent full payouts.

At least we hope so. ^^


Apr 16, 2016, 16:4904/16/16
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ThatBloke said:

Partials payouts have been dramatically reduced, but full payouts are normal AFAIK.


Remember before the previous change, you were getting NO PARTIAL AT ALL, and everybody yelled when they were introduced.


Lower partials should mean lower banks to pay back, thus more frequent full payouts.

At least we hope so. ^^


we like the partial system :P
Apr 16, 2016, 16:5204/16/16
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patakal said:

Can you help me out... any new update on positions?? how should we do it now... i have been losing troops terribly without any considerable payout... 
join lionsgate pride 5 and I teach you everything!
Apr 16, 2016, 16:5404/16/16
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Yes, so did I. But the partials are now worth around 1/0th of what they were once worth... :(
Apr 16, 2016, 18:4704/16/16
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ThatBloke said:

Yes, so did I. But the partials are now worth around 1/0th of what they were once worth... :(
its funny how they said 5%. expected more from elitephantom at the least. 
Apr 16, 2016, 20:3704/16/16
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ThatBloke said:


Yes, so did I. But the partials are now worth around 1/0th of what they were once worth... :(

I'm confused AF because my last big payout was 700 macs and several positions later I get 450 phalanx  so now I'm actually in the negative on paying the bank back.

Not happy about this and that 700 mac payout was before the last tweak so do you think this phalanx payout was my new "big one"???

Apr 16, 2016, 21:2504/16/16
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lil_uzi94 said:

patakal said:

Can you help me out... any new update on positions?? how should we do it now... i have been losing troops terribly without any considerable payout... 
join lionsgate pride 5 and I teach you everything!
i mean lost souls pride 5
Apr 16, 2016, 23:0904/16/16
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lil_uzi94 said:

lil_uzi94 said:

patakal said:

Can you help me out... any new update on positions?? how should we do it now... i have been losing troops terribly without any considerable payout... 
join lionsgate pride 5 and I teach you everything!
i mean lost souls pride 5
where is your pride guys, when u joined dying LS? :)
Apr 17, 2016, 02:2504/17/16
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Rob May said:

lil_uzi94 said:

lil_uzi94 said:

patakal said:

Can you help me out... any new update on positions?? how should we do it now... i have been losing troops terribly without any considerable payout... 
join lionsgate pride 5 and I teach you everything!
i mean lost souls pride 5
where is your pride guys, when u joined dying LS? :)
There's nothing wrong with strategic mergers :)
Apr 17, 2016, 08:3304/17/16
Apr 17, 2016, 08:35(edited)
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lil_uzi94 said:


its funny how they said 5%. expected more from elitephantom at the least. 

Yeah, it's more like 90% decrease... :p



RIX said:


I'm confused AF because my last big payout was 700 macs and several positions later I get 450 phalanx  so now I'm actually in the negative on paying the bank back.

Not happy about this and that 700 mac payout was before the last tweak so do you think this phalanx payout was my new "big one"???

You shouldn't confuse them anymore, since partials are now always ridiculously small. :p


Now about your full payouts values, don't forget they're only based upon the level that gives them and have nothing to do with your actual investments.

That's the only relevance for using a spreadsheet : knowing when you have to stop hitting low level positions and focus on higher ones only to get a decent payout when it drops.


Apr 17, 2016, 11:1804/17/16
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ThatBloke said:



You shouldn't confuse them anymore, since partials are now always ridiculously small. :p


Now about your full payouts values, don't forget they're only based upon the level that gives them and have nothing to do with your actual investments.

That's the only relevance for using a spreadsheet : knowing when you have to stop hitting low level positions and focus on higher ones only to get a decent payout when it drops.


Makes sense.  Build your repayment on the lowers and hit the highest for a maximum payout. So I will assume that phalnx payout was the big one since I just started Persians again after the tweak.
Apr 17, 2016, 14:1704/17/16
Apr 17, 2016, 14:21(edited)
08/25/14
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Hitting medium levels such as 49-60 has been easier as quests came (or I would never have enough fodder for higher ones).


Then I got very close to paying back my bank and switched to higher levels. I don't wait to the last moment, because I know payouts often frop sooner than expected (actually, it may come from the fact I'm misinterpreting the rules.I consider partials add to the full payout to form the next bank, while others consider partials reduce your investment. Well, either cases, smaller partials should mean smaller paybacks anyway), so I first hit a level 71 and got another partal (a ridiculous one : 71 Promachoi + 14 Thureophoroi).


Then I hit a level 72 with a good probablity to get the jackpot. I could actually have hit a level 74 or 75, but since I wasn't 100% sure, I considered I couldn't afford hitting another big one if I lost too many troops, so I aimed at a more accessible one).


Of course I should have hit that level 74 or 75, but you never know... ;) Anyway, that was the right moment : 950 macedonians + 191 Mounted Peltasts. :)

At least, full payouts aren't broken. Phew. ^^


My previous payout was from April 1st. As you can see, I'm not rushing... Building fodder takes lots of time, and I can't play every tournament (or just a few hits to get the lower tier rewards).
Apr 19, 2016, 11:2204/19/16
01/06/16
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Last week I got a full payout of 6500K Sarissophoros from a level 102! there are still good numbers out there, You just need to risk it all. lol
Apr 19, 2016, 13:3404/19/16
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andrewjmcmahon said:


Last week I got a full payout of 6500K Sarissophoros from a level 102! there are still good numbers out there, You just need to risk it all. lol

I don't support risk usually, but I agree.


Apr 20, 2016, 02:4204/20/16
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Persians are not about high risks and possible high wins, its simple math and when u track your resources u well know how much troops u get on payout, only surprise is which types of units u going to get, cavalry or phalanx


overplaying Persians do nothing, u get tons of XP and high level and lose some % of your entire army.

Apr 30, 2016, 15:1104/30/16
04/24/15
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yes sure, my as,

i hit a lot high positions, lost more than 3 mil, for poor 17 agema, 40-50 promo and 100 mpeltast, 

u increase some, but not toys for us, u increase our lose, to spend more money, but who is stupid can spend, i dont think to play more, if  he dont ban me again , im all time under ban, only 30 dominion points to make and leave, 

players will have good farm lvl 82, to make mission raid big city annd make siege on big city, u will make him service.

when i write u give discount only 110 i need, after u will never take money, u give me 20%,. i reject, now when i have only 30 dominion points to dom 10, u first give me dominion activator, after 30 min u change in dominion points and 60 %, but thanks i will not buy, 30 points is 10 days log, and some mission, aand found with raid will finish for 5 days if dont ban me, if ban me, good luck in new game who u   must create, this is read from all players and leave, only your mercenary , sponsored player, which u give a lot toys to make points to see other and to buy, to make revenge, but im old wolf, not stuipid like some kids here

good game,. and u that bloke, from u expect again ban, u must deserve your salary in toys, promachos, agema ans some gorila


May 1, 2016, 10:0505/01/16
04/24/15
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again thanks i answered u ib other post
May 1, 2016, 05:4605/01/16
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partials seems smaller I think around 50 agemas from lvl ~80, but partials doesn't matter anyway


and I also received payout as expected, was around 25mil resources, which I banked with fodder i produced over last cca 1-2 months. it was payout as expected, nothing surprising happened.

Apr 21, 2016, 01:2904/21/16
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Absolutely.
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