and when a fair game, transparent, with normal rules, no this slot machine oracle, who only kill our units, at least be fair and face it, to no more play normal players such game! shame! greed, spam, stealing units, cheat is all what we receive for our lost time and money here, nice work  plarium, you will stay here with your employees with 20-30 clones-accounts, only they know your rules, and have for free unlimited credits, and unlimited big rewards every day, while us you give few javellines at a won level 100 pp, shame again! !

easy, don't consider some players favorites, and give them a lot of big payouts, and blacklist other players; oracle must to be a logical investment, with equal rewards, no one ask to receive more than his initial investment, but you must offer o fair reward system, based on initial investment for all, not only for your favorites. If you put money inside a bank, you have that investment any time you want, not waiting for months till bank reset or give you the right to have a big reward, while other players, play quest after quest and receive a lot of big payouts! finally , you must give us the oracle rules, is not slot machine here, any game must have transparent rules, not only for your favorites / employees! and never, but never blacklist a player because complain and tell you the true, that is the only way to know that you make mistakes, and can become better and give us finally fun for our lost time and money here! I , for example,, invested, like I many times already said, over 36 millions, all my army, in oracle, and now i am total blacklisted, maybe because told you the true, and receive 1 mounted at won level 125, or few heavies at all won positions ??? that is impossible, and only will make all normal players to run away from your game!

I have notice some abnormalies with positions. And as soon as I can speak.... There updated again..

Will you guys leave them alone...

Tonaya said:

speed up building troops time at least for double or 10 times faster,or we all gonna die until we build enough troops to play PPs after payout!

As I said somewhere on this forum, it's very complicated. Let's imagine a situation: You've lost all Units and now you need 2 months to rebuild to compete with others.

Even if we cut training time by 50%, you will still need 1 month to rebuild. Which is still too long. It's not 1 day as most of you would like to. And players would still be dissatisfied.

Moreover, if you build faster, it means that your rivals also build faster. So you can't take over and get an advantage of it - all players will rebuild as fast as you, and you will need to build more and more Units to compete with them. Which results in more time.

If we drastically change building time, it would be fair to change the price of Units as Sapphires are mostly designed to save your time. So if you need to spend twice less time, it would be fair to spend less Sapphires for it, right?

And it would allow some players to buy even more Units than they can buy now.

What does this mean for you? Even longer to build to compete with them. It's called inflation. Your Units will cost less in a fight. If you need 1 mil. now, you will need 2 mil after changes. Which still results in the same building time.

As you can see, it's not our devs who don't want you to build Units faster. It's about keeping our game balance which is not so easy as it seems to be.

Some games have a different dynamics which includes 1-2 hour rebuild of a full army. But our game is using a different approach. You need to invest your time and spend Resources to build a large army. Sometimes it takes several months of building for a single epic strike. And such strikes are more epic and more exciting than everyday 10k hits.

Feel free to debate, maybe you will find some points that I could use to convince our devs.

Thanks for your reply, Hundigo. I agree that in our games PvE is a bit different from (for example) MMORPG games where you only need to invest your time to get rewards. Here you don't need to invest so much time, but it is compensated with the necessity to wait until your Army builds. 

Alyona,when i said to speed up troop building time,i meant for all players,not only for me.it would be great from plarium to do for the first time,something what players ask.difference between 1 month and 2 months is huge.if you speed up troop building time for double,you will make all players in this game happy,try and you will see.i dont have any problem if other players will be able to build more troops as you said,i ask this for all players.problem is not between players,problem is between plarium and all players in this game.i dont want to take advantage on other players as you said,i want to spend less time for building troops,because players are leaving game because time needed to rebuild army,or other option is put huge money just to be there were you was with army,which is too much evan with 75% revive discount(and that is what is good only for you,who taking real money from players) look on map and look how many USER DELETED are there.if it'll take to troops cost double more to build in resourses,it is ok,just cut off time for building troops for start for double,and you will see how all players will be happy,and all will war more then.

for Hundigo...Tonaya was never used by anyone,i dont know what you think and why you dont like Thatbloke,he is my friend in this game,i dont know him in real life,as i dont know you :)

Alyona,no need to waste more words and time on this topic,try to be fair for the first time(i dont mean for you personally,i mean for plarium)and speed up troop build time for 50% and if that dont make all players happy,change it back like it was before and i'll stop to play this game.

Tonaya

really? no buttons for your favorites, no blacklisted players at all? and how name you my situation, I take for every won position, for more than a month, only few heavies or lights as reward, while many other players make hundreds of k in takeover quests? invested all my army , over 36 millions, and your game give me that mockery? look at that please, and so was all my rewards in the last month, with 1 or 2 exceptions, but still no big or regular payout at all:

http://prntscr.com/ct5z38 

http://prntscr.com/ct9io3

http://prntscr.com/ct9iwl

and I can give you another 100 proves that I am blacklisted, because complains against your unfair and greedy!

do you have an answer for that? what will you do in my case, lose all you army, all your 2 years work, and receive instead that mockery rewards, more, then such answers, that you have the same system for all? lie and greedy are sins, remember that! let the game free, no normal player will invest money in such mockery game!

Alyona you've answered to me 2 times with same answer ^^

lets not imagine nothing,just cut training time for 50% and make us happy :) you ask what mean to me is it 2 months or 1 month....it means a lot,1 month exactly :)

it is very simply,just change time needed to build each troop for half,50%...not to make us all stabbing some fat dude and wasting our time^^

here:

http://prntscr.com/ctg2sl

just change time from 1hour 40 min 53 sec to 50 min :) it is not so hard to be nice,but you need to try and see ^^

for Alexander,download persian calculator from fb group ...here is where:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/spartatroopcalculator/?ref=bookmarks

read info there,you cant get big payout from low lvl positions,you can only get big payout when your bank is full,and plarium made it so complicated,that is hard to explain :S or if you play on plarium server send me msg and i'll try to explain to you,instead this moderators,and its their job^^

Tonaya

Alyona you've answered to me 2 times with same answer ^^

lets not imagine nothing,just cut training time for 50% and make us happy :) you ask what mean to me is it 2 months or 1 month....it means a lot,1 month exactly :)

it is very simply,just change time needed to build each troop for half,50%...not to make us all stabbing some fat dude and wasting our time^^

here:

http://prntscr.com/ctg2sl

just change time from 1hour 40 min 53 sec to 50 min :) it is not so hard to be nice,but you need to try and see ^^

Tonaya

There is no doubt that PP were designed in that particular way to bring Plarium more money. By every update and especially on higher levels, it is harder and harder to get something close to full payout. Plarium devs are smart, and they know for instance, if you have army worth 1 million drachmas trapped at PP, you will risk 50, 100k or even more drachmas to get your army back, not to wait several months to produce enough new army to free you trapped army at PP. 

As a PP player with entrapped big army, you have basically 3 choices: 

1. to keep buying drachmas until you get your army back,

2. to wait for weeks/months until you make enough new units, or

3. to quit the game.

I doubt that Plarium will change something until they will start losing lots of their drachma buyers, but hunderds of players have aleady realized what is this game and especially PP all about, so you better listen to us.

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