Innovates Sparta gear...LMAO...  you Plarium people r too much...

i wish to give some feedback on this warfare and spying developments in Sparta. These new options have no place in Sparta. Real history shows this was not possible. I understand the buying of gold concept... because throughout history gold was used to win & finance wars. I must say.. and i will use no negative remarks or slang...  Your consideration and implementation of these options conflict with history, real time game play, but most importantly... they conflict with your clients values relating to the game and what good game development should be.

Disappointment like this is precisely the reason why we do not make announcements. Unexpected problems happen in development and postponements are very common.

TheElitePhantom said:

Disappointment like this is precisely the reason why we do not make announcements. Unexpected problems happen in development and postponements are very common.

The new items (requested by players for use against political attacks) are not the only feature of the new update. Check out the new emporias.

HAHAHA EPIC we asked for removal or some buidling not DRACHMA bought stupid item...dont say we asked that... you cannot see political so best would be to have shield 24 hours 7 days a week active...are you bloody insane!

Buildings are reserved for more permanent functions. A shield against political attacks has to be temporary.

1. make an announcement before u make changes, since i lost over 1 m army for no reason when u applied changes, i can live with that, yet it does not make me happy, my member lost his off only cause he was not able to put it to safety in time since game crashed.

2. if i can not do something properly, then i do not do that at all. in this case, if u guys can not ensure things go smoothly, then do not make any updates.

now here goes the question: let's say i start hitting ls pantheons really hard, and then i apply that protection thing, so obviously some guys would not like that, yet would they be able to raid my city when protection thing would be applied? if it works the same like protection when u begin to play this game, i do not think they would be able to do that? or would they?

johnthaman said:

So you guys, actually realize, that such a changes or new stuffs will bring disappointment in majority of players and yet they are still implementeded in the game?!?!?!?

I am sorry but that could be described with a world like I N S A N I T Y.

I was referring to the people who were disappointed that pantheon report filters were unable to arrive on time.

@Lyderis

None of the changes are improvements. Heavy coiners can now apply safety for their city, since when in history could you apply a protection that would make it impossible to either attack or scout you?

Heavy coiners can raid the heck out of others but when they go to sleep, they put on their protection. Zero chances for people who spend just a few bucks every now and then.

Normally strength would decide who wins a war. Now only $$$ decides. Ridiculous 'improvements'.

Arturos said:

None of the changes are improvements. Heavy coiners can now apply safety for their city, since when in history could you apply a protection that would make it impossible to either attack or scout you?

Heavy coiners can raid the heck out of others but when they go to sleep, they put on their protection. Zero chances for people who spend just a few bucks every now and then.

Normally strength would decide who wins a war. Now only $$$ decides. Ridiculous 'improvements'.

Is that so different from using the acropolis?

TheElitePhantom said:

Disappointment like this is precisely the reason why we do not make announcements. Unexpected problems happen in development and postponements are very common.

The new items (requested by players for use against political attacks) are not the only feature of the new update. 

There were no unexpected problems, there were drachma purchasable items that had priority in development over the pantheon filter, which is evident in the recent update.

No you did not give us protection against politicals, you gave the protection to very people we were complaining about. Lyderis hit it on the spot, so now someone can do a lot of damage and be carefree since he can buy some scifi bubble that protects them from vengeance hits. We wanted an option to block a certain individual from throwing greeks at us, not to "Raise shields!" and stop all activity.

We wanted an option to protect our scouts, best you came up with is no scouting at all.

Seems to me we should stop suggesting things because every single time you take our idea and turn it in to the simplest drachma purchasable option that only seems you are doing it in our favour, but actually is complete opposite of what we wanted.

I'm sure if recent features were put on hold and effort was concentrated on the desperately needed free pantheon filter it would have been made months ago. 

Yes we did want a counterplay against assassins, but not something that would block our gameplay as well. Shield stops all operations. Why are we unable to raid if the purpose of the shield is to stop assassins? You just gave them an option to send an assassin and then initiate shield so there's absolutely nothing we can do against them. Did you know assassin lands within 3 minutes and you cant see him coming? Shield would have to be active all the time, thats pricy and stops all activity in the city.

Your selective memory is not amusing. You said the same thing in that topic and I replied giving you all details you requested. Even if I didn't (but I did) then you initiate a further discussion asking for the details and not criticize every suggestion posted on the forums and then come up with something more convenient for plarium to make and sell. Just so you would have an excuse that you tried. At least a scout tower would give a little strategy to the game, you have to pick if you would rather have more city defense bonus or guard your scouts. All these new features are just shortcuts taking away all strategy. I'm a coiner and I shouldn't complain on those since I can have them at any time, but I am complaining because its killing the little strategy that's left in the game.

No one is asking you to read their minds, but then communicate and present the problems you are having on your side and give the community a chance instead of criticizing every suggestions and coming up with your own solutions that in the end are not nearly what we had in mind.

I have already left my answer concerning Filters in another thread, but I'll repeat it here for all Archons to see - the feature was almost ready, however, our engineers have found some serious bugs with Battle Reports and it was decided to release this feature with the next update in order to fix this bug. I don't think that players will be happy to receive errors in Battle Reports.

I have disclosed the situation we have faced with and I hope for your understanding

Well, I don't know if you had time to experiment while you were under your nice shiny bubble the other day, but AFAIK, beginners protection shouldn't completely drop if you raid another city : it only allows this specific target to attack you back.

Well, wait, maybe this actually works differently. The one I could experiment a few months ago was returning player's protection, and it was in Stormfall (as I had accidentally cilked on Stormfall 1 year ago and didn't move any further, so the castle was automatically created, and when i started playing to give it a try like 6 months later, I got returning player's shield).

Apparently, this one allows to stay protected from all but the ones you've attacked.

So I was wondering if that sci-fi shield lost in ancient Greece would work the same way... And since a pantheon isn't supposed to retaliate, then maybe a difference is made between attcking another player or somehting else (you should have tried with emporia as well ^^)

But I agree it's twisted. Safely attacking pantheons whille staying under shield protection... That's quite scandalous actually. :p Somehting should be done quickly IMHO...

Out of curiosity, sending sieges to pantheons will not break the city protection. Was this intentional or a bug?

Well, when beginners' protecton has been implemented, there was no pantheon yet, or nobody though a beginner would harm a pantheon with a pair of swordsmen...

So it was probably thought with only player's mutual interaction in mind.

It should be extended to attacking anything now, or it would be just unfair. :)