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24 окт. 2017, 12:4524.10.17
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What is the point of pantheon massacre?

Community manager ,could you explain to me : what is the point of pantheon massacre(now with different name:zombie carnage event ) ?

to be more clear,what is the point for us(players),not for plarium ?

you decided to take 10-20% of our troops,and we  cant do anything about that.

what players got from pantheon massacre? nothing,no rewards,pvp is never on massacre time,we only lost 10% troops officially,but its more like 20%,because we cant revive all loses,and not to mention champion troops loses

ps some of us finished elementary school and math is not rocket science for all


Tonaya 

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24 окт. 2017, 15:4824.10.17
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Tonaya said:


Community manager ,could you explain to me : what is the point of pantheon massacre(now with different name:zombie carnage event ) ?

to be more clear,what is the point for us(players),not for plarium ?

you decided to take 10-20% of our troops,and we  cant do anything about that.

what players got from pantheon massacre? nothing,no rewards,pvp is never on massacre time,we only lost 10% troops officially,but its more like 20%,because we cant revive all loses,and not to mention champion troops loses

ps some of us finished elementary school and math is not rocket science for all


Tonaya 

Hello Tonaya!

Long time since we last chatted!

Well I'm not a CM but I would answer to your question from my point of view as a player.

First of all I never use my champion units during pantheon massacre (or zombie carnage event is this occassion)! They are hard to get and so easy to lose, especially during this event so it's up to you to use them or not.

Second of all, I personally play during pantheon massacre (not every single time of course) so that I can get XP (and increase my level) and also get intellect points to unlock the next levels and therefore the next features.

It's up to every player whether they participate in this particular event or not.

I wouldn't recommend it for smaller players cause they may level up quickly but I believe the troops can be put to better use than using them during pantheon massacre. 
24 окт. 2017, 20:0324.10.17
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Tonaya said:

Community manager ,could you explain to me : what is the point of pantheon massacre(now with different name:zombie carnage event ) ?

to be more clear,what is the point for us(players),not for plarium ?

you decided to take 10-20% of our troops,and we  cant do anything about that.

what players got from pantheon massacre? nothing,no rewards,pvp is never on massacre time,we only lost 10% troops officially,but its more like 20%,because we cant revive all loses,and not to mention champion troops loses

ps some of us finished elementary school and math is not rocket science for all


Tonaya 

They would fine if  there were some rewards. Currently they are just damn annoying and costly.
24 окт. 2017, 22:4724.10.17
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looking lyk athena took severe beating...
25 окт. 2017, 07:3925.10.17
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Pantheon massacre is a supplementary event that is designed to aid players in their game activities that they already perform regularly. It allows you to be bold with your strategy without the risk of suffering unsustainable losses. As such, we believe no additional reward is required - the fact you can revive the absolute majority of your army after successful or unsuccessful attacks on enemy Pantheons is the "reward" of this event.
25 окт. 2017, 14:1425.10.17
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No one is laying a claim to your troops, Tonaya. And no one is forcing you to go attacking Pantheons. But it does give Coalitions a chance to try and take the Pantheons they need by force, while at other times they would be too worried about their losses. However, we cannot give out a full revive either, otherwise there is no risk left in trying to play aggressively and nothing at all stopping players with strong Offense going around the map and downgrading Pantheons that Coalitions worked hard to build up. What we are trying to do with Massacre is reach a balance of giving players the freedom to be bold, but not removing the risk factor entirely.
26 окт. 2017, 07:5426.10.17
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Tonaya 
It is not guaranteed that the original Coalition that held the Pantheon will be able to capture it back as the new owners may well entrench themselves well enough to defend it against counterattacks. As Fraii mentioned, you also get a lot of experience points for these battles if you choose to participate. Furthermore, I know that many Coalitions make agreements before the Pantheon Massacre begins and do not attack each other - if you are worried about any of the Pantheons you hold use diplomacy to minimize risks. In the end, there is always a way to either use the event to your advantage or remove yourself from participation in it. And if someone does decide to attack you, make sure that your defending forces are strong enough to withstand it. This is a war game after all.
27 окт. 2017, 17:1927.10.17
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Tonaya said:


Dimitri Molchanov said:


Tonaya said:


i am hegemon and i run diplomacy,and i know all about that.

our pans were attacked,but they didnt capture'd it.attacker's lost all their troops,and we lost 10% of our def in pan.none get nothing,we both loose.what we get?nothing.no achievement,no reward,nothing,just -10% of our troops.that is what i'm asking,whats the point of loosing 10% troops for nothing?

this was war game,maybe 2 years ago,now it is pay to play game and pay to win game,and when i got email to start playing sparta,it said: free to play.all players are not same in this game:coiners are vip,they receive all kind of rewards that other players cant even know about it,moderators receive 3 k drachma's per week,regular players dont get anything,they are or will be killed and user deleted soon.there is no more fun in game like it was 2+ years ago.no strategy,no fun,only pay to win,if you do care about this game,you may do something about it,tell game devs to change back game like it was before,playable for all players not just to chosen one's with credit cards.

for all what i write'd here and on previous post,99% regular players will agree,only moderators and plarium workers wont and they will try to explain something else :) how everything is ok,and balance is good in game and that regular players can became strong,the'll just need little more time,like 5 years or so.....

sorry for my bad and basic english 


Tonaya 


The other Coalition 's reward would have been taking the Pantheon if they were to succeed. Your Coalition managed to hold it and thus proved its claim to a strategically important location. Additional rewards are not guaranteed or promised, this is merely providing players with extra possibilities. 


I should also note that not all "coiners" as you put it are VIPs and not all VIPs spend on the game, there are other criteria that we use when selecting them. As for moderators, they are spending their personal time to help other players and keep the community orderly. Regular players have plenty of in-game events where they can secure additional advantages. This is a topic that has been brought up numerous times and there is really no other response that can be provided 

Dimitri,all i'v said is 100% truth.i can provide screenshots if needed :)  if i dont know something i keep my mouth shut and tell i really dont know anything about that

about moderators:my good friend was moderator,and all plarium did,i got info(with a screenshot) before you officially post some changes :)

about VIP:my VIP friend gived me password to help him to get his troops back from pp,which i did.i'v also talk with his VIP agent(agent didnt know with who he was talking and i'v asked him a lot of questions)^^,VIP players receive info for every tournament before all of us poor,regular,players know about,they receive all kind of rewards(just like that,just because they are VIP)champions,imperial troops,different kind of boosters...they get info when gonna be 75% revive discount(before officially announcement),they receive gifts for birthday(drachma,city schema),they receive extra rewards if they make certain amount of pvp,pp,exp...points.......we,regular players dont get anything,my VIP friend spend more than 10 000 euro on game,his city is maybe 10% stronger and more developed than my city,he never show up on forum,i did a lot,.....so how he is VIP and i am not(if i'll quote your words:

"I should also note that not all "coiners" as you put it are VIPs and not all VIPs spend on the game, there are other criteria that we use when selecting them."

so,what is criterion to became VIP ?


did you read my idea for baby pantheons or i must post that in suggestions?i know it'll be declined,like all my suggestions(ask Alyona about that,and say hello to her from Tonaya )

i talk a lot with Leonidas as well,so i'm very good informed for all kind of stuff in game

Tonaya 

Not all you have said is true, but some of them are.

First, i know some big players and big spender in this game that are not VIP, just an example (Usgu of Titans300) he is not a VIP . you can pm him ingame and ask him if you want.

2nd, You are asking what is the purpose of Pan Massacre? i dont think you dont know the purpose of it and just pretend that you dont know?

3rd, i have seen you so many times in this forum and since i started playing this game all i read about your post are questions that "common sense" to answer. You've been ban on the forum and now you are back, is there anyway you can change how you post some threads here because the way i see it no one listen to you, specially mods and CM.

4th, if you really dont like how plarium runs this game, why on earth your still here and playing? why not just go look for other games? Tetris maybe?

5th, This is pay to win game? i dont think so, generally when you say pay to win game it means when you buy something you win. but i dont, i buy some packages but never win a big war, yes sometimes i win during small battle....

6th, those big coiners are also losing in battle but the only advantage they have is they have money to buy back their troops.

and lastly, if you complain several time or you ask plarium several times and you dont get what you really want to get for an answer then recommend for you to quit playing sparta. 


Dont get at on me please... Peace Tonaya :-)

3 нояб. 2017, 08:5503.11.17
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Tonaya has a very good point.
6 нояб. 2017, 09:1306.11.17
6 нояб. 2017, 09:14(отредактировано)
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Wow I have spent hundred of USD on this game and never heard about VIP status and such. How unfair!  I guess this is a Russian game and Russians in general just don't like americans. I am one lonely soul and FUD is being an internet punk or maybe he's just an attention troll.
19 нояб. 2017, 18:0819.11.17
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Dimitri Molchanov said:


@ Tonaya


VIP players are chosen by a variety of criteria, the most important ones are their activity in the game and how long they have been a player for. But it is important to understand that not every player that fits these will be chosen for the program, it is yet to expand. As for their advantages, if they do get information about upcoming tournaments, this information does not give them a big window of opportunity to prepare. I am not even certain if that is done at this time, the system is constantly changing and evolving. As for gifts such as City Schemas, those are perks of the VIP status.

If moderators are given information about a feature prior to update it is also done very close to the update itself. The purpose is simple - to make certain they are able to test it more efficiently and answer any questions that players may have. As you know, Community Managers are not around 24/7 and we always strive to make certain our players have someone around the forum who could help them should any issues arise. 


As for Pantheons, you can post it in Suggestions, however, I can tell you now that we are not planning any changes to Pantheons at the moment. It has nothing to do with who the suggestion comes from, it is simply a matter of game balance that requires a lot of planning prior to even the smallest of changes.

Dimitri,i'll quote your words:

VIP players are chosen by a variety of criteria, the most important ones are their activity in the game and how long they have been a player for....

and show you screenshots,first is VIP player:

http://prntscr.com/hcik8a

and here is my city:

http://prntscr.com/hcikpz


so why i am not a VIP ?


Tonaya

20 нояб. 2017, 09:1620.11.17
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Players are invited to join the VIP program. At the moment we are unable to take in everyone who fits the criteria and, unfortunately, it will likely be the case even after the program is expanded. The primary criteria are activity in the game, how long have you been a player in Sparta, how well you are generally doing in Tournaments and Weekly Rankings, etc.
20 нояб. 2017, 18:5120.11.17
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Dimitri Molchanov said:


Players are invited to join the VIP program. At the moment we are unable to take in everyone who fits the criteria and, unfortunately, it will likely be the case even after the program is expanded. The primary criteria are activity in the game, how long have you been a player in Sparta, how well you are generally doing in Tournaments and Weekly Rankings, etc.

i was in top 10 many times,i was number 2 1 time,i was many times number 1 in my league,you saw my stats,make me vip when you start adding new players


Tonaya NIP
21 нояб. 2017, 08:3021.11.17
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Tonaya, I personally wouldn't mind making you second to Leonidas himself, but, alas, that is not up to me.
21 нояб. 2017, 13:1021.11.17
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Dimitri Molchanov said:


Tonaya, I personally wouldn't mind making you second to Leonidas himself, but, alas, that is not up to me.

if its up to Alyona,then i can forget about it >:)


Tonaya 
27 окт. 2017, 15:5627.10.17
21.08.14
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Dimitri Molchanov said:


Tonaya said:


i am hegemon and i run diplomacy,and i know all about that.

our pans were attacked,but they didnt capture'd it.attacker's lost all their troops,and we lost 10% of our def in pan.none get nothing,we both loose.what we get?nothing.no achievement,no reward,nothing,just -10% of our troops.that is what i'm asking,whats the point of loosing 10% troops for nothing?

this was war game,maybe 2 years ago,now it is pay to play game and pay to win game,and when i got email to start playing sparta,it said: free to play.all players are not same in this game:coiners are vip,they receive all kind of rewards that other players cant even know about it,moderators receive 3 k drachma's per week,regular players dont get anything,they are or will be killed and user deleted soon.there is no more fun in game like it was 2+ years ago.no strategy,no fun,only pay to win,if you do care about this game,you may do something about it,tell game devs to change back game like it was before,playable for all players not just to chosen one's with credit cards.

for all what i write'd here and on previous post,99% regular players will agree,only moderators and plarium workers wont and they will try to explain something else :) how everything is ok,and balance is good in game and that regular players can became strong,the'll just need little more time,like 5 years or so.....

sorry for my bad and basic english 


Tonaya 


The other Coalition 's reward would have been taking the Pantheon if they were to succeed. Your Coalition managed to hold it and thus proved its claim to a strategically important location. Additional rewards are not guaranteed or promised, this is merely providing players with extra possibilities. 


I should also note that not all "coiners" as you put it are VIPs and not all VIPs spend on the game, there are other criteria that we use when selecting them. As for moderators, they are spending their personal time to help other players and keep the community orderly. Regular players have plenty of in-game events where they can secure additional advantages. This is a topic that has been brought up numerous times and there is really no other response that can be provided 

Dimitri,all i'v said is 100% truth.i can provide screenshots if needed :)  if i dont know something i keep my mouth shut and tell i really dont know anything about that

about moderators:my good friend was moderator,and all plarium did,i got info(with a screenshot) before you officially post some changes :)

about VIP:my VIP friend gived me password to help him to get his troops back from pp,which i did.i'v also talk with his VIP agent(agent didnt know with who he was talking and i'v asked him a lot of questions)^^,VIP players receive info for every tournament before all of us poor,regular,players know about,they receive all kind of rewards(just like that,just because they are VIP)champions,imperial troops,different kind of boosters...they get info when gonna be 75% revive discount(before officially announcement),they receive gifts for birthday(drachma,city schema),they receive extra rewards if they make certain amount of pvp,pp,exp...points.......we,regular players dont get anything,my VIP friend spend more than 10 000 euro on game,his city is maybe 10% stronger and more developed than my city,he never show up on forum,i did a lot,.....so how he is VIP and i am not(if i'll quote your words:

"I should also note that not all "coiners" as you put it are VIPs and not all VIPs spend on the game, there are other criteria that we use when selecting them."

so,what is criterion to became VIP ?


did you read my idea for baby pantheons or i must post that in suggestions?i know it'll be declined,like all my suggestions(ask Alyona about that,and say hello to her from Tonaya )

i talk a lot with Leonidas as well,so i'm very good informed for all kind of stuff in game

Tonaya 

27 окт. 2017, 07:3827.10.17
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Tonaya said:


i am hegemon and i run diplomacy,and i know all about that.

our pans were attacked,but they didnt capture'd it.attacker's lost all their troops,and we lost 10% of our def in pan.none get nothing,we both loose.what we get?nothing.no achievement,no reward,nothing,just -10% of our troops.that is what i'm asking,whats the point of loosing 10% troops for nothing?

this was war game,maybe 2 years ago,now it is pay to play game and pay to win game,and when i got email to start playing sparta,it said: free to play.all players are not same in this game:coiners are vip,they receive all kind of rewards that other players cant even know about it,moderators receive 3 k drachma's per week,regular players dont get anything,they are or will be killed and user deleted soon.there is no more fun in game like it was 2+ years ago.no strategy,no fun,only pay to win,if you do care about this game,you may do something about it,tell game devs to change back game like it was before,playable for all players not just to chosen one's with credit cards.

for all what i write'd here and on previous post,99% regular players will agree,only moderators and plarium workers wont and they will try to explain something else :) how everything is ok,and balance is good in game and that regular players can became strong,the'll just need little more time,like 5 years or so.....

sorry for my bad and basic english 


Tonaya 


The other Coalition 's reward would have been taking the Pantheon if they were to succeed. Your Coalition managed to hold it and thus proved its claim to a strategically important location. Additional rewards are not guaranteed or promised, this is merely providing players with extra possibilities. 


I should also note that not all "coiners" as you put it are VIPs and not all VIPs spend on the game, there are other criteria that we use when selecting them. As for moderators, they are spending their personal time to help other players and keep the community orderly. Regular players have plenty of in-game events where they can secure additional advantages. This is a topic that has been brought up numerous times and there is really no other response that can be provided 
26 окт. 2017, 20:0926.10.17
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as I mentioned before, I cant see the point of pans at my stage of gameplay, for me, holding a lot of pans after miles badge and cap L20 are achieved just stagnates the game, since my team gained both of those we hold 1 pan for PvP and run around merrily hitting everyone elses pans and caps 


that said I dont really bother with the pan massacre event either as it is of no value to our coalition and represents a net loss of 10% of troops which, with the size of combo hits we tend to throw out, can be a LOT! 
26 окт. 2017, 19:3426.10.17
26 окт. 2017, 19:43(отредактировано)
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dimitri, how about if change 95% or 99% haha


and please change back the old system at pp lol

26 окт. 2017, 19:2626.10.17
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oyana


I agree with you


nice post ;) 

26 окт. 2017, 16:3026.10.17
21.08.14
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Dimitri Molchanov said:


Tonaya 
It is not guaranteed that the original Coalition that held the Pantheon will be able to capture it back as the new owners may well entrench themselves well enough to defend it against counterattacks. As Fraii mentioned, you also get a lot of experience points for these battles if you choose to participate. Furthermore, I know that many Coalitions make agreements before the Pantheon Massacre begins and do not attack each other - if you are worried about any of the Pantheons you hold use diplomacy to minimize risks. In the end, there is always a way to either use the event to your advantage or remove yourself from participation in it. And if someone does decide to attack you, make sure that your defending forces are strong enough to withstand it. This is a war game after all.

i am hegemon and i run diplomacy,and i know all about that.

our pans were attacked,but they didnt capture'd it.attacker's lost all their troops,and we lost 10% of our def in pan.none get nothing,we both loose.what we get?nothing.no achievement,no reward,nothing,just -10% of our troops.that is what i'm asking,whats the point of loosing 10% troops for nothing?

this was war game,maybe 2 years ago,now it is pay to play game and pay to win game,and when i got email to start playing sparta,it said: free to play.all players are not same in this game:coiners are vip,they receive all kind of rewards that other players cant even know about it,moderators receive 3 k drachma's per week,regular players dont get anything,they are or will be killed and user deleted soon.there is no more fun in game like it was 2+ years ago.no strategy,no fun,only pay to win,if you do care about this game,you may do something about it,tell game devs to change back game like it was before,playable for all players not just to chosen one's with credit cards.

for all what i write'd here and on previous post,99% regular players will agree,only moderators and plarium workers wont and they will try to explain something else :) how everything is ok,and balance is good in game and that regular players can became strong,the'll just need little more time,like 5 years or so.....

sorry for my bad and basic english 


Tonaya