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1 сент. 2021, 20:0501.09.21
15.03.16
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graduated tiering on package pricing

wanted to share this with all and let you know plariums position on packages... i recently contacted plarium on the fact that the more pakcages you buy the more it costs and the less you get ... they had moved the pricing up again so i asked them why and told them i would not pay that.. there response is that a computer does all of that and there is nothing they can do.. in other words, they would rather me shut the city down and buy nothing(which i am doing) because they really dont care if its priced out of range or not... to me this is a problem with the mindset of this company... i didnt question the amounts for packages, merely the tiering of the offers.. they will do nothing, so i will now do nothing til the end of the year..lol.. so no matter what whether you buy some or a lot , they will move you up and dont care... even upon a request, they will do nothing

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Forget Me NotCommunity Manager
8 сент. 2021, 13:3508.09.21
05.04.21
939

We have got lots of different offers in the game that can suit any taste or pocket. In addition, we often launch special limited seasonal and holiday offers at a discounted price.
Here are also the tips on how to get more drachmas in the game: do not miss Spartan Allegiance; always open Coalition Chests; take part in our tournaments & quests.

We appreciate our players' feedback, especially their useful advice in our communities. We liked your answer in this thread a lot and want to send you a reward for being so helpful. Could you please answer the moderator in PM?

8 сент. 2021, 16:5108.09.21
15.03.16
39

lets get this straight... if you have packages at a price and i like them i buy several of them... and by doing so you then raise the tier to a higher price for less value.. when i tell you to go back to where i was comfortable... you tell me you cannot.. which i have to say is bullshit.. i am the customer, period... i have told you and your support team i will not pay the higher prices for these tiers.. it is predatory .. i have also told you if this is not corrected i will not play at all.. so.. your are actually no help at all.. so no one should buy anything because you will just raise the price for less value if you participate a lot in doing business with you... this is totally backwards,, the hubris is stunning to watch... so.. either its fixed to where i was comfortable or im out of here... here is a hint... its called CUSTOMER service... not there is nothing i can do.. a computer tells us what to do and we follow like robots

8 сент. 2021, 16:5908.09.21
15.03.16
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btw .. computer do exactly what they are programmed to do by people... talk to your people to rectify the program.. or tell me how long i ned to not sign in for it to be corrected.. i will leave my coa so it does not effect them.. but how long do you need to be totally inactive for it to change?... you are giving me zero options at this point.. just that you are helpless and held hostage by a computer program

8 сент. 2021, 17:1508.09.21
15.03.16
39

as far as my tone... im frustrated, disappointed and have run ot of venues to try to adress this concern... it is obvious you do not work for plarium... so, for that i apoligize.. i now what to do now... and i this point i cannot recommend anyone play on plarium games ,, i feel thta thye are tryng to get evrything back from the ars fiasco.. and to be honest.. dont give a damn what anyone (customers ) think.. it isnt your fault.. and i would not like being in your position to field questions related to a game that is so predatory in nature for money that it is totally inflexable when dealing with people

9 сент. 2021, 00:0809.09.21
14.02.18
545
LEM

as far as my tone... im frustrated, disappointed and have run ot of venues to try to adress this concern... it is obvious you do not work for plarium... so, for that i apoligize.. i now what to do now... and i this point i cannot recommend anyone play on plarium games ,, i feel thta thye are tryng to get evrything back from the ars fiasco.. and to be honest.. dont give a damn what anyone (customers ) think.. it isnt your fault.. and i would not like being in your position to field questions related to a game that is so predatory in nature for money that it is totally inflexable when dealing with people

Hello LEM: I have been trying to contact you for several days. Can you check my PM, please?

Regarding your tone and your general feelings... What can I say? I am not a computer. And I don't work for Plarium either. But I am sorry to see you in a bad mood.

My offers in-game are always low because I rarely coin. In past, they raised a bit sometimes, but they went back to "normal" quite fast when I stop buying them. 

Of course, we would like to see you happy playing our favorite game, but prices on packages are Plarium policy. If you disagree with the prices, or you don't find any offer suitable right now, you can choose not to buy. The offers will change according to your activity. 

There are a lot of features right now you can play for drachmas and inventory, as Anastasia described. Also, being in an active team can help with conflict rewards (that are a lot) and coalition tournaments. 

I am sorry to read that you are considering leaving. Besides this issue... don't you enjoy playing? 


9 сент. 2021, 01:5509.09.21
15.03.16
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this reminds me of a parable i read once... a good shepherd sheers his sheep wisely to feed his family for life, for cuts too deep will kill what he shepherds and can only feed his family once..  and yes i am considering it... why wouldnt i?.. being active and particpating in buying packages has rewarded me with a more expensive game because of it... i fight against coas bigger than mine always, never smaller.. i fight for the small coas and small players that are getting ravaged by larger more powerful ones.. and i never complain and i never blink.. hopefully i stand for something, for fairness and competition in the spirit of the game.. to fight up , not down.. to do this has a cost... and a risk/reward.. you wnat more fighting and competition.. do not punish those that actively participate in doing business.. be fair.. allow players to chose what level they participate in spending.. dont foce them into the position i am in.. sheer me, but dont cut so deep that i wont allow myself to continue

9 сент. 2021, 02:1809.09.21
15.03.16
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if you want a real suggestion.. allow players to chose their tiers of packages... some can only afford smallers ones, but if they buy it goes up. this game is turning into a tournament format because frankly, most cannot afford to fight due to these tiers... and them gradually moving up and taking months to go down.. i have nevr been interested in tournaments in a game that at its heart and soul is one of conflict.. and how you conduct yourself in those conflicts... you win some and lose some... but in the end what drives the game is motion, activity... being better that day then the other guy... or worse, and how you overcome it... most of the people i trust the most i have had the bloodiest fights with.. becasue we have each had the full measure of the other.. and the respect earned led to friendship with honor.. and that is growing more distant a thing.. a brotherhood based in competition... head up, no holds barred and laughing with an opponent worthy of what was shared

9 сент. 2021, 02:4009.09.21
15.03.16
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and the shame of the ars deal.. is that plarium should pay attantion to what sold those packages... pricepoints,, 1 dollar to 20 dollars u.s. and even though i didnt know about them til way late in the game.. its a lesson that pricepoints are what sells.. i bet if everyone woke up tomarrow and there were packages for 1.95 every player would buy all they could stand.. or even 4.95.. it is about price points especially with covid.. sheer the sheep... dont kill them

9 сент. 2021, 22:5009.09.21
14.02.18
545

Hello LEM. Thanks for your feedback again. I see your point, and as a player myself I share some of them. I really think that cheaper packages would increase purchase, yet, is not our call. What I wanna say if that, despite buying or not, Sparta is a nice developed game with a lot of features you can play without spending. Of course, with a sweet big inventory, you will enjoy more the game, but this is not a must. 

I don't know your coalition or your game, but sometimes for lack of activity, I changed coalitions. Also, coalitions can merge to be a stronger team, make easier to get the rewards, more team activity and rewards for everyone. Maybe you can try that. To be in a full active team is big fun :)

10 сент. 2021, 03:2110.09.21
15.03.16
39

ive been in several... all sizes... agim, tfa, me (lem) and bones that we shared, went to nordmann as the 4 horseman... that was back when they couldnt even take a pan.. lol.. and changed that coa into what it became.. an offensive coa , instead of just defense.. we have all left serv1 now.. tfa and i are in assasins on server 2.. we actually like being outnumbered .. not a challenge if we are in big ones.. been there done that... i think you have to be a better player in small ones... and we only like to fight... lol.. we dont do tourneys, could care a less about them or seiges and ori from pans.. we dont even like playing with a cap over lev 5.. we dont care about rank either.. what does rank mean if #15 can kick #3s butt.. lol... we play for the challenge of it .. why else play a war game.. ?

10 сент. 2021, 17:1610.09.21
17.06.16
129

A war game? in the past maybe ...


Plarium surpasses itself with its new offers xD, it is cheaper to buy ferrari xD



i

yesterday 7€ and today 73€ xDDDDDD   ,plarium is my idol.

12 сент. 2021, 09:4512.09.21
03.12.14
101

Recently my lowest offer size increased 5 times but the value of the items in the offer increased only by 2.2 - 2.5 times. As there is less value for my money, I'll wait to spend till the 'system' understands that my interest to spend has decreased as well.

14 сент. 2021, 02:2714.09.21
15.03.16
39

btw... i had no idea this many people feel the same way i do... i have gotten dozens of pms now... and i didnt know that many people get on this site... i had believed many felt the same way i do on this matter but know i know it...and this should be addressed by plarium.. i am absolutely amazed at the response

17 сент. 2021, 22:4217.09.21
15.03.16
39

i have never joined any discussion at all in these forums.. i appreciate the input of everyone whether we agreed or not it is important for all to exchange ideas and empliment things that work.. i have inputted as much as i can to improve the game and though those that participate have no control of what the maker does it is important for the maker to at least hear the concerns of the body of players that actually support them finacially because without players there is no finacial benefit for the maker and no game for those that play.. my thanks to all that participated and i wish all of you and your families the best

 regards

 lem

22 сент. 2021, 18:2522.09.21
15.03.16
39

ionnis,, lol.. now thats funny.. everyone plays guardians... as far as raiding for resources.. i dont need to.. i produce plenty in my city.. but you are right.. i probably suck... ivery rarely play persians.. because it has changed so much you HAVE to buy soldiers back... i very rarely do.. i dont use special soldiers and never use champs.. ever.. i use very few ponies and phalanx.. so, you are right .. i probably suck.. unfortunately ive never lost  a challenge or a war , ever... i only fight larger coas.. i must be lucky... but you are right... you could probably beat me fighting me... you assume a lot to not know me or how i play at all... i love it... a mind is like a parachute, my friend.. it works better when it is open... i dont play the game you do.. at all... but in the end, my method has worn out everyone we have faught, even uotnumbered... if you truly want to find out how good you are... go to a small coa, have no diplomacy.. and see what really happens to the small guys... as in all thing you are more than welcome to confront me especially because i am a horrible player that only uses a cc... man the hubris dripping off of you is something to see and pity

22 сент. 2021, 19:0422.09.21
15.03.16
39

niw.. lets talk abut this game and drachma... because the game revolves around it... skteches, upgrading of generals (which you can do thur persians, but because of the power upgrading and the guardians takes you more time to pay in to get a payout and the risk is greater for the player), elysian city etc.. all of it revolves around drachma.. buting soldiers back is not the smartest way to play.. if you play it correctly you CAN fight all the time and the power of your army will go up.. you just have to play primarily with builds,, the game rewards you in the largest soldiers anyway... but in the end drachma and the prudent use of it is what makes players competative no matter what anyone tells you.. most do not wait  days to boost buildings, generals etc.. there is a difference with people that famr mostly and those that dont... many of the farmer/fighters now hide in very large coas and impose their wills on the weak.. because thats all thats left.. and thensit back and judge others. like you are... you have to be a better player in asmall coa than a large one.. thats just a fact... you can always ask anyone ive had conflicts with and they will all tell you the same.. first , it isnt easy and second its always bloody and protracted but never personal.. to be honest, my give a shit level at this point is almost zero.. how i can not buy any packages for a motnh and it doubles in price twice in the last 3 weeks kind of amazes me.. but of course there is nothing anyone can do because a computer runs people here... lol.. and i shouldnt complain because is , of course is infallable.. ive faught lamost everyone on here as i did on server 1.. it been fun, but if i see something wrong i dont just say something.. i do something... which is more than many sunshine soldiers in many coas... or at least  i try to... but i dont hide in a big coa.. and there is no coa left to even give semper (your coa) a game , nor bok... the competition point of server dominance is over.. so, if it gets to where i find it too far out of wack.. then you will have no one to play with... because there isnt many left on the other side of the ledger that i know of... and you can basically play a version of sparta farmville.. and of course now your coa has take in many cowardly bully types that prey on the weak... and only them... really disgusting to see... for the most part most there are ok... but now in many ways semper have become what they despised

22 сент. 2021, 21:5222.09.21
15.03.16
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ok.. last point... numbers of soldiers... i doubt i will run out of soldiers.. i do things based on principal.. and im stubborn over principal... i have a little over 7 million soldiers so that isnt the issue... i just counted them for ya.. it is the principal, period.. predatory pricing, predatory players and a map that is set up the same way for the limited number of players in these larger coas that prey on the weak,, that has me frustrated with this game

22 сент. 2021, 09:2422.09.21
04.09.16
288
LEM

intersting you say that iaonnis, i do yes.. any larger players does.. and any coalition to be viable on the server needs players exactly like me.. the difference is what you do with what you have and how you conduct yourself. i dont hit players with 80k agema, nor dimecha..lol.. i could but i do not.. as far as the attitude that players bring to the word "coiner" or commentary like that.. to be honest its offensive... im one of the best players in this game.. and its not from just using a credit card.. and here is something else.. i use my card so my coa doesnt have to... and smaller ones that get hit by abusing their size.. that kind of commentary is just damn offensive.. because im one of those guys that would defend a guy like you if i thought your were being bullied or yoru coa was.. its easy to say its just the card.. but it isnt.. everyone spends.. but the why and what you do with it is the difference.. 

I don’t know how say that you are one of the best player in this game. 

The game in general has sessions, PvP and PvE 

In PvP Session there are Tournaments that Players attack or defense Cities, Pans, Capitals,
Emporia etc. 

In PvE session there are Tournaments like Guardians, Positions, Coalition Arena, Cult
Acolyte Recruitment Race etc. 

You don’t play Guardians 

You don’t play Positions 

You don’t raid for resources 

You Buy Resources and complain for the buy Limit on them. The reason is simple because
even if you make all the daily Raids the resources in not enough for you to replace
by training your lost units in PvP session and boosting the training process
using Boosters you Buy using your Credit Card.   

You are active in PvP session (you over play actually) and wait the next Monday to Revive
your lost Units using Drachmas you buy using your Credit Card.

With Your Credit Card also you buy all the useful items you need like Holy Bonds, Sketches,
GPs etc that make your units more Powerful than regular Players.    

If you don’t make use of your Credit Card in how many days you will run out of units and Quit the Game ?  

16 сент. 2021, 20:4516.09.21
15.03.16
39

in an amazing twist of irony.. i have bought nothing since it went to 79.oo minimum package price... and now its 99.00... so, i dont believe that there is nothing they can do..lol.. because they did the exact opposite of what it was supposed to do.. so basically this is like the modern democratic party in america... shut up or pay for it.. lmao... so speaking up changed things didnt it?.. not a smart move by your computer programming

14 сент. 2021, 18:3514.09.21
15.03.16
39

yes it is iannis, a never ending wargame... and i can tell you from experience, it takes a better player to be in a small one because of the odds.. what i do not like is midlevel bullies that hide in them. as far as cc players reviving.. i very rarely do because i know how to attack and work with resources to build what i need, so i dont see that arguement.. i have faught every coa on server 2 in some form or fashion and a cc is not what made any of it competative..lol.. its tactics, force composition and skillset.. you have to have drachma to build things in reality to be competative.. soldiers die or not, but the most expensive things are all bought in one form or another from buildings, guardians, generals.. and upgrading.. and that is where the real cost is.. not soldiers.. people  that spend a lot on soldiers simply do not know how to attack and sustain an effort and have to use a cc. little things th game has done.. like guardians for persians or making your soldiers more powerful throws off the time to get a return because you still have to pay in the same amount to get a payout. which bring me to the new general upgrades...lol.. i have seen more people lose their armies on persians than fighting... but everyone has to spend some to be competative period... and the graduated tiering favors the more affluent... and the gap widens because of it... it isnt the soldier revie that does it.. its the rest that cost everyone at some point and with all the upgrading being introduced the time player is over matched especially if the ar ein smaller coas that get pounded by players in very large coas and use that size coa to hide in