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Mar 19, 2019, 23:3403/19/19
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What future for SPARTA - Quel avenir pour SPARTA


I gave myself a simple calculation, counting the number of archontes potentially still present in the first 200 coalitions of the game. Here is the result:

In the first 100 coalitions 10,801 archonts

In the following 100 coalitions 4.818 archonts

A total of 15,616 archonts. An average of 78 per coalition.

If you consider that a number of accounts are inactive and that for the rest of them are alternative accounts, how many are really players. Grand max 5000.

This is certainly not enough for the game to be profitable for Plarium. So the end is probably very close. No need to spend more money here.



Je me suis livré à un petit calcul tout simple, comptabiliser le nombre d'archontes potentiellement encore présent dans les 200 premières coalitions du jeu. Voici le résultat :

Dans les 100 premières coalitions 10.801 archontes

Dans les 100 coalitions suivantes 4.818 archontes

Soit un total de 15.616 archontes. Soit une moyenne de 78 par coalition.

Si l'on considère qu'un certain nombre de c'est comptes sont inactifs et que pour le reste un bon nombre sont des comptes alternatifs, combien sommes nous réellement de joueurs. Grand maximum 5000.

Cela n'est certainement pas suffisant pour que le jeu soit rentable pour Plarium. La fin est proche. Inutile de continuer à dépenser de l'argent ici.


Zukunft für SPARTA,

Ich habe eine einfache kleine Berechnung gemacht, die Zahl der möglichen Archive, die in den ersten 200 Spielkoalitionen möglicherweise noch vorhanden sind, zu erfassen. Das ist das Ergebnis:

In den ersten 100 Koalitionen

In den 100 folgenden Koalitionen:

Entweder insgesamt 15.616 Archive. Oder durchschnittlich 78 pro Koalition.

Wenn man bedenkt, dass es eine Reihe von Konten gibt, die nicht aktiv sind und für die Restkonten eine Alternative sind, wie viel sind wir wirklich Spieler? Höchstens 5000.

Das reicht sicher nicht aus, damit das Spiel für Plarium rentabel ist. Das Ende ist nah. Es ist nicht sinnvoll, hier Geld auszugeben.


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Mar 20, 2019, 00:3903/20/19
231710
Did Plarium remove your post about their refusal to acknowledge that the loss of your 22,000 venators due to app malfunction?  i hate when they remove posts that criticize them.
Mar 20, 2019, 02:4303/20/19
04/08/18
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C.U X99 LACAZ said:


A total of 15,616 archonts. An average of 78 per coalition.

If you consider that a number of accounts are inactive and that for the rest of them are alternative accounts, how many are really players. Grand max 5000.

if you consider that all non coiners ( 80%-85% ) of  players have 2-5 alts average, =  1000 coiners   14.000 free riders
Mar 20, 2019, 13:4103/20/19
118

I am always supportive of players being heard about their opinions and view with the regards to the game but also we do have the Forums rules which need to be followed.

With all the respect towards every view or opinion of players we need to remember to follow the rules of the Forum.



 Much appreciated views and opinions can be rephrased and re-post according to the rules of the Forum.

Thank you for understanding.

Mar 20, 2019, 22:0403/20/19
12/03/15
14

I totally agree with CU


The prospect for newbies when they enter the game is just daunting. To get to the elysians for example will take forever and when they see their cities and coalitions being attacked with these superhuman troops will be very off putting. So the only way for them to get there quickly is to spend a mountain of money just to be on par with the players already in the game. As well as that the whole maintenance of your cities and getting any progression within the game has become a plethitude of mouse clicks and a complete time sink to get everything up to scratch for the day, and hey at the end of it you might just have a few minutes to play a wargame. After all of this once they get to a reasonable level they are going to experience constant lag, hang, glitzes and features that dont work as they should and then come to forum or agents about these problems only to be ignored. No wonder they are not going to hang around too long to play this game as it was originally intended. I would probably leave but have made so many friends and am fiercely loyal to my coalition that is the only reason I struggle and persist with this game.
Mar 21, 2019, 04:0503/21/19
04/05/17
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i support lacaz....CU L8R
Mar 21, 2019, 07:5903/21/19
01/02/15
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Bator reporting Abuse of Power demonstation  from Moderator Marteee have been  " succefully " deleted and Bator " banned"


IMAO


Mar 21, 2019, 08:2303/21/19
01/02/15
17

customer care training  with  Plarium MOD


Me: There is bug....


Plarium Mod: Shut up !


Me: But i lost 300$ worth of troops due to the Bug


Plarium Mod : No no  you will get them back 


Me : How ?


Plarium Mod: Its  client app problem, customer fault, your fault .


Me: But there is  proof its a bug , look i have proof.


Plarium Mod : Shut up and pay

Plarium Mod : Player "Me" banned from forum  untill 2021


Mar 21, 2019, 10:5503/21/19
03/10/15
1569

for over 3 years some of us come to forum to try to improve game for the rest. this kind of situations where players lose their troops because of glitches /bugs of the game, it has been happening for a long time, and the attitude of technical support, cm or vip agents is always the same, "not me, all is good here, it must be that you dont know how to play, you dont know the rules, you must have bad internet connection, your computer is old, your pc /mac is full of bugs"  (thi is a fact that can be seen in all answers given along the years) ... i can go on with the excuses given to us to prove that its not their fault, even if they dont bother looking if there is a problem first... always first, blame the customer, to save them time


I though alina was going to change the attitude at least here in the forum, but new cm seems to have the old school cm attitude against us.... a pitty.  


In case you all dont know why your posts are being deleted is the new rule they included in forum after the "drachma boicot" when they included up to 32 levels in agreements, all posts that suggest a boycott get deleted ... We all know they dont care about our opinions the only thing they care is money (again this is a fact)


https://plarium.com/forum/en/rules/

 



There is absolutely nothing in my post that breaks the rules! or reason to threat me with banning again


If moderation team and cm want respect from players, thats a two way road... 
Mar 21, 2019, 14:0503/21/19
Mar 21, 2019, 20:40(edited)
12/21/15
3

i support Lacazz said:


customer care training  with  Plarium MOD


Me: There is bug....


Plarium Mod: Shut up !


Me: But i lost 300$ worth of troops due to the Bug


Plarium Mod : No no  you will get them back 


Me : How ?


Plarium Mod: Its  client app problem, customer fault, your fault .


Me: But there is  proof its a bug , look i have proof.


Plarium Mod : Shut up and pay

Plarium Mod : Player "Me" banned from forum  untill 2021


A simple request and the mod Treats a simple request like a huge asshole, I came here for the first time to see if that was true.

If Plarium treated his teammates like this I will not buy anything here myself.

If you treat customers as if they were bums you can keep your stuff in the future!

Yours sincerely

Merlin

Mar 21, 2019, 14:5403/21/19
Mar 21, 2019, 16:17(edited)
03/10/15
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salt we all can have our own opinions but here one of the main points its the treatment plarium forum team gives to users when there is a problem in game, i am sure we can all agree that its not correct :)
Mar 21, 2019, 21:5103/21/19
11/29/14
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Salt said:


im sure many will be upset on my post. been reading the post of lacazz and heres what i can say about the issue. this are facts.

You are right on every points


You just forget one point: Quality. you you purchase a service, a good you have quality expectations, the relation price / quality is maybe not familiar for you.

And plarium have make a pretty  damm shiit work on that side.

Also support is same level. with low end free Moderators that rathen ban people than trying to understand the players problems.


Sad that after over 5 years , plarium keep developing new thing to suck out your money ( elysia..) , ´
but isnt capable or willing
to fix  basic glitch that really matters.
Last breath for sparta i guess, they will come with new "$$" sucking toys anyway

Mar 22, 2019, 12:0403/22/19
231710

Good day, Archons! Thank you for your calculations and your thoughts. This forum is a place where you can share your thoughts regarding the game. However, there are forum rules and we always should remember about them :)


As for the game, as a community manager, I can assure you that we're not going to close this game. As you may see, each month we release some new features. And while our devs are working on this game it will live. There are a lot of players who still enjoy Sparta and actively play. 


I'm grateful for your willingness to make this game better. Moderators constantly gather your feedback and pass it to me so I can forward it to devs. We're always open for your fresh reasonable suggestions. 
Mar 23, 2019, 17:2403/23/19
01/02/15
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What was the purpose of the comment /  reply ?

Is it real ?

Does staff really care about players post and  outcome ?



Mar 23, 2019, 18:5703/23/19
Mar 23, 2019, 19:01(edited)
231710

Me one lost a lot of horses   because  an plarium app bug ...   when my city was attacked and catch all  my   offensive horses wich came back in this time  in city ..and  the   app was stucked .. their response was to give me back half  of the troups i lost for  free  ...and to pay to revive the rest ..my response 

i  deleted my account and was the best    thing i do ..refuse  to pay for their    mistakes ...  


 Skulder 



 p.s.     my "friends"  from here   now    know  who was  behind  this      account :)) ..what i do was only for  fun and  was bored ..sorry for  my conduct  :) 
Mar 23, 2019, 23:4103/23/19
Mar 24, 2019, 00:01(edited)
08/21/14
1025

hijadelafortuna T.I.A. said:


for over 3 years some of us come to forum to try to improve game for the rest. this kind of situations where players lose their troops because of glitches /bugs of the game, it has been happening for a long time, and the attitude of technical support, cm or vip agents is always the same, "not me, all is good here, it must be that you dont know how to play, you dont know the rules, you must have bad internet connection, your computer is old, your pc /mac is full of bugs"  (thi is a fact that can be seen in all answers given along the years) ... i can go on with the excuses given to us to prove that its not their fault, even if they dont bother looking if there is a problem first... always first, blame the customer, to save them time


I though alina was going to change the attitude at least here in the forum, but new cm seems to have the old school cm attitude against us.... a pitty.  


In case you all dont know why your posts are being deleted is the new rule they included in forum after the "drachma boicot" when they included up to 32 levels in agreements, all posts that suggest a boycott get deleted ... We all know they dont care about our opinions the only thing they care is money (again this is a fact)


https://plarium.com/forum/en/rules/

 



There is absolutely nothing in my post that breaks the rules! or reason to threat me with banning again


If moderation team and cm want respect from players, thats a two way road... 

Tonaya didnt read forum rules and Tonaya didnt agree with anything by joining anything.

i'v been banned 4 times,last one was forever but forever is relative :) 

if i understood good: moderator banned player until 2021 year?

i think it is not normal and i think moderator should be banned from moderators and from forum.

if a player lost troops because of game mailfunction,and have proof for it,plarium should revive troops for free and aplogize to player(customer,if plarium want to keep that customer).

if plarium stuff and moderators keep on deleting posts and baninng players,you will only kill activity on forum,like you already did.

if plarium developers keep doing what they are doing(not sure there is a word in english language for that kind of action) you gonna kill the game,like you already did.

many players already stop to play game,others are thinking about it....

plarium management is unique,but facts are facts:with small amount of costumers,a firm cant make  profit for a long time,by raising prices(you can milk a cow,but when cow is dead,you can milk it how much you want but there are no more milk)

plarium should make costumers happy,if costumers are not happy,they will go somewhere else where stuff is cheaper.

i dont know does any plarium worker play game,but its not really fun to click for 5 years,to wait 2 hours to build 1 horse.....(we will die before we build descent number of horses,and we cant click from grave)...first agreements was 20lvl,we finally get close to finish it,you rise to 32,all free like you said game is free,but no its not free,31,32 need sketches and sketches can buy with real money,or you can play 50 years to make that much sketches from some rewards,first there were 30% sketches discount,now 25% ccc,you rise lvl on pp,you change persian sistem and didnt told us about that,players loosing all troops on persians and you say: no,no,its all ok from here,you invented 2nd city,now we need to click double more,maybe to buy one more pc or monitor,and to look with one eye on old and with other eye on new  city,and when we expand our views so much that ppl gonna laugh on street when they see us,you'll say its our fault,we didnt watch how we should,now you rise coalition achievements from 10lvl to 20lvl,we needed 5 years to get to 10lvl achievement,do you really think we will click 5 years more to get 20lvl achievement,and then you to rise it to 30lvl?i remember how hard it was when i was little player to make gps to start training phalanax troops and horses,now we need to spend gps to train elysian troops,we cant recall troops like we could before,your all changes are really bad in last 3 years.we complain,you dont care,its not working,plarium do something until its too late .

today is my 1673 th day in game ,and i dont understand 1673 days already,for plarium its all free,its virtual,you dont loose profit if you give some gratis to costumers,you make costumer happy and costumer buy more,if you disrespect costumer and giving less and less,you'll loose costumer,it is really simple and it is free for you,no real value from plarium perspective,its only pixels and its free for you,only for us it is not free,or money,or year or a few of our lives.think deep plarium.

btw i could be offtopic,but my intentions are good,unlike my  english 


http://prntscr.com/n21vjl


Tonaya 

Mar 25, 2019, 15:2003/25/19
07/08/15
31

salut

 je te soutien lacaz

moi aussi j'ai des bug sur "plarium play"exp:plus aces au forum,aux demandes d'amis,le plus marrant, c'est l'argentarium,quand je vais voir une autres cité,j'ais la barre de progression qui reste ^^le screen de ta cité lacaz ;)

Je ne veux pas arrêter le jeu pour autant, mais depuis des années, je fais le minimum aux tournois qui m'intéresse et ne fait pas les autres, les pertes sont trop importante par rapports au gain.

À quand un plarium ou on gagne plus que l'investissement????

best regards

benhur

https://gyazo.com/30e130585910a215c1e04caf48a2f82c

Mar 28, 2019, 15:3903/28/19
Mar 28, 2019, 15:40(edited)
08/21/14
1025

CU Support Lacaz Hobbit said:


Salt have completed The Russian training courses 1,2 and 3.


1-Brain washing 

There is  100 millions Russians still believe Putin is an honest man, despite his official  200.000 $- 1.000.000 $ official yearly incomes, he has 70 Billions +  assets.


2-Silencing

And when somebody speak up there, they silence him,

Plarium adopted the method, it works


3-Rewarding


Get a tap in the back and a clap for your services.

1.plarium is not russian,plarium is in Ukraine,first 6 owners was all from israel.(tonaya have all coords ^^  )

2.i am from Serbia,and i do believe Putin is honest man,and i really admire him,because he is the only one who can say no to (illuminati,zionist,usa,uk,...) pupets,who run this world.and all of you can keep on watching CNN,BBC and other fake,Rupert Murdoch controlled news,and you can keep believe that usa really spread democracy by bombs,but only there where is a lot of oil,like on Golan Heights,trump recognizing like israel soil these days(here is a link to open your mind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_Energy ),and btw Krim was and is Russia,no matter what you say or think :)


its out of topic,but i cant be silent about that.


Tonaya

Mar 28, 2019, 15:5603/28/19
07/06/15
20

3 days posted  issues


3 days sent 3  complaint / help request so  Cm / tech , not a pressing matter obviously.



Mar 29, 2019, 13:1003/29/19
231710

Hello, Archons. Thank you all for your feedback. 


First of all, I would like to ask you not to discuss politics here, on this forum. It was created not for this purpose. Please, check these rules before making any posts >>>


https://plarium.com/forum/en/rules/


Otherwise, we will be forced to delete your messages and you can even be blocked from posting for some time. 


Thank you for your understanding. 

Mar 29, 2019, 14:4203/29/19
231710

CU Support Lacaz Hobbit said:


Salt have completed The Russian training courses 1,2 and 3.


1-Brain washing 

There is  100 millions Russians still believe Putin is an honest man, despite his official  200.000 $- 1.000.000 $ official yearly incomes, he has 70 Billions +  assets.


2-Silencing

And when somebody speak up there, they silence him,

Plarium adopted the method, it works


3-Rewarding


Get a tap in the back and a clap for your services.


FYI, My mother train and thought me well. I am you your mother did the same thing to you. Happy:-)