Hello!

I understand that a typical reaction to any change is a denial. Especially, when the change is big and brings a lot of the new staff.

The first thing everyone should keep in mind is that Elysian is a feature for experienced players who upgraded the majority of things in the main City.

Such players are active in different kind of in-game activities where they can earn Drachmas. So, it's the second thing to consider: you don't need to spend real money to get Drachmas, you need to be active in the game and earn them from the in-game activities.

To complete the tutorial quests for the Elysian city, you don't need to use the in-game purchases, but completing them gives a perfect chance to start developing this City step-by-step.

You don't need to spend anything to have the first Artisan, you can get it absolutely for free.

Yes, it's easier to say that the feature brings nothing positive, but it would be nice if you at least try playing it for some time before making such conclusions.

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello!

I understand that a typical reaction to any change is a denial. Especially, when the change is big and brings a lot of the new staff.

The first thing everyone should keep in mind is that Elysian is a feature for experienced players who upgraded the majority of things in the main City.

Such players are active in different kind of in-game activities where they can earn Drachmas. So, it's the second thing to consider: you don't need to spend real money to get Drachmas, you need to be active in the game and earn them from the in-game activities.

To complete the tutorial quests for the Elysian city, you don't need to use the in-game purchases, but completing them gives a perfect chance to start developing this City step-by-step.

You don't need to spend anything to have the first Artisan, you can get it absolutely for free.

Yes, it's easier to say that the feature brings nothing positive, but it would be nice if you at least try playing it for some time before making such conclusions.

Dear Alina, thank you for your answer. I obviously did not expect the understanding of those who must protect the image and interests of the developers ... But your analysis is objectively lacking in objectivity.

First of all, I am an active user since 08/2015, and as such I think I can define myself as an expert user, since I have witnessed all the great news of the game. Secondly, I am a very active player in game, and I dedicate to the game, on average, 3-4 hours a day (I do not know if you can verify it, but I assure you that you would not need it, as I say the truth). What I am not is a compulsive buyer of packages and drachmas, even though until now I have spent not a few euros for this game (just take a look at my city to realize it).

That said, I can say that what you said in your post, does not correspond to the truth. You said that the various activities of the game can provide the drachmas necessary to allow a certain development, but this is not absolutely true. Drachmas can be procured mainly in two ways: empori or tournaments. But we all know how difficult it is to get the thousands of drachmas serving for buying drafts, relics, the second craftsman (15,000 drachmas ... you're crazy!), The walls of the new city, etc ... So do not insult the intelligence of those who perfectly understand the mechanisms of this game.

You have not taken into account all the efforts and expenses made so far by the players. You have not introduced any news, but you have distorted the game! It was a novelty the general, the filarca (despite the numerous bugs that still presents) ... But not this Elysian city! I completed the construction of the acropolis to make sure that all my units were put directly away from attacks ... But now there are the elixie units, and the initial cost to send directly into the acropolis the only light infantry is 4,000 drafts , which corresponds to 40,000 drachmas! Do you realize?

You have introduced new accelerations, while the old ones no longer count for anything. And even those, as you said, are part of the activities that players play within the game, and that you mentioned yourself ...

Can you understand what I'm saying? I would be sorry to leave everything ... I've been here for almost 4 years, I've built a nice city and a good army by spending a lot of money. I met many people that I do not want to say hello ... But I'm tired (and I assure you ... I AM NOT ONLY) of this scarce consideration that the Plarium has its users, and above all, to spend money just to be a little more competitive.

I hope to have been clear. This is not rhetoric, it is the truth.

Diogene said:

I wrote this in the special section "News and announcements" I report it here, because with my message I want to reach as many players as possible, so that they can realize what Plarium has for them. The most aberrant news are reported (by the way, again there is nothing, it is just about building a new city from the beginning... The only real news is represented by the bonuses of the new units, which have very little to do see with reality and history; see for example the function of invisibility), whose purpose is aimed at the disbursement of money by users.I would like Plarium, at least for once, to listen to us users. So, if you agree with me, please make your voice heard...

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/news-and-announcements/122827_a-brand-new-feature-has-come-to-hellas---explore-your-elysian-city-today/?post=577537

Congratulations Plarium! Once again you have hit the center. You have made this game a very pleasant pastime, a real trap. As I expected this city Elysia is nothing but a way to fuck money to us players. You are really embarrassing! Having a second master craftsman costs the beauty of 15,000 drachmas ... Madness! I had 4 artisans, 3 of which paid by spending real money; now they are practically no longer needed, and so my spending is frustrated. Then ... Most of the buildings can be built using the drafts, which of course are paid. The walls of the new city can be built only by spending real money, because their construction price is in drachma (in my first city I spent money to have the walls level 8, but this obviously was not enough). You have entered a myriad of new pacts, without even considering the idea of ​​entering a new ambassador (because of course that is a paid option). And you, Alyna ... In another post you said that everyone can choose whether or not to play the new city. Can you explain this to me as it is possible, given that the new city produces advantages and bonuses that only increase the gap between players? It's all so frustrating ... I spent my heart, time and money on this game, adoring his starting idea. But now I am sadly disappointed, because in spite of all my efforts and expenses, Plarium can not get enough of it. I sincerely believe that my time here is finished ... But I do not think I'll be the usual one. Get ready for so many abandonments and empty and desolate cities, for the joy of those who can spend without brakes. It's what you deserve ... You can also ban me, it does not matter anymore ...

Diogene, i agree with you 100%

Calm the **** down. Blablabla. This complain about unbalance... I read one guy saying like it was way better 1 year ago.. Like wtf. I played a few years now, and its been unbalanced since I started. I am still here. So are you. One of you is like... its about getting us addicted.. Well yeah. You are already addicted. Thats how the brain works, how life works. Its about making money... Well yeah. I am still here. So are you. All of you are basically complaining about people that spend money, or more money than you, get things done faster than you, thats it! Uuhh you can't keep up with the elite... Like you did that 2 weeks ago, or 2 years ago. Fact is, you can develop the elysian city slowly, but free. Also. Let me say this, if this game doesnt get new features, we can call this update an expansion.. Then I would leave, and trust me I am not alone (as you would say). I need new features. Why don't you go find a 15 year old game and play, they wont get a update ever. Go find some old game.. Figure out the meta or look it up on the internet and play that day in day out for the rest of your life. And no I don't like the unbalance - I already stated that several times in several threads for plarium to see. But it is what it is - and you can just leave the game. 

Now you people are going to blame me for working for plarium or something like that... But no. I say what I want about them and you, whenever I want. I dont care about any of you. I am just here to play a ****** game. Do you want my coords?

gentlepeople, whilst I respect your right to air your views, please refrain from using swear words out of respect for younger members, on this occasion I have edited them out but I really don't want to be doing this every time I log on 

morteeee said:

gentlepeople, whilst I respect your right to air your views, please refrain from using swear words out of respect for younger members, on this occasion I have edited them out but I really don't want to be doing this every time I log on 

many thanks 

Yeah I know.

Coeus said:

Calm the **** down. Blablabla. This complain about unbalance... I read one guy saying like it was way better 1 year ago.. Like wtf. I played a few years now, and its been unbalanced since I started. I am still here. So are you. One of you is like... its about getting us addicted.. Well yeah. You are already addicted. Thats how the brain works, how life works. Its about making money... Well yeah. I am still here. So are you. All of you are basically complaining about people that spend money, or more money than you, get things done faster than you, thats it! Uuhh you can't keep up with the elite... Like you did that 2 weeks ago, or 2 years ago. Fact is, you can develop the elysian city slowly, but free. Also. Let me say this, if this game doesnt get new features, we can call this update an expansion.. Then I would leave, and trust me I am not alone (as you would say). I need new features. Why don't you go find a 15 year old game and play, they wont get a update ever. Go find some old game.. Figure out the meta or look it up on the internet and play that day in day out for the rest of your life. And no I don't like the unbalance - I already stated that several times in several threads for plarium to see. But it is what it is - and you can just leave the game. 

Now you people are going to blame me for working for plarium or something like that... But no. I say what I want about them and you, whenever I want. I dont care about any of you. I am just here to play a ****** game. Do you want my coords?

I did not understand anything of what you wrote, nor even if you are in a polemical tone with me or someone in particular. But I'm not interested in it; I'm not here to make controversy with other users, but to complain about a "bad" news from certain points of view. I express my point of view, but I can assure you that this is not just my thought (there are users in my league who have already expressed their intention to leave the game). As I said, the point is that this city Elysia has nothing functional to play, if not to spend money on users to develop a new city from the beginning. But if I wanted to develop a new city, with more or less the same functionality as the previous one, I would create a new account and have the same effect.

What do you want to demonstrate with your incomprehensible comment? What people are totally for nothing? Well ... This is still people who are part of the game, and whose opinions should also count something, otherwise you'll find yourself playing with the other spenders, and raiding 80-90 level cities desolately abandoned by other players. Do you understand it? You can not ask 15,000 drachmas to buy a second master craftsman, after that, previously, I bought 3 for the first city paying a lot of money (and now they do not need anymore, because most of the buildings have been developed) . You can not ask for 4,000 drafts (40,000 drachmas) to develop the acropolis so that light infantry elixie units are immediately placed inside it once they are produced. For the elisia cavalry, how many drafts will they serve? 6,000? 7,000? I spent a lot of money to upgrade the acropolis ... You can not put me in the condition to spend more in this way! If I spend money I want it to buy something I like, not something I necessarily need! Why do I have to spend 1,300 drachmas per single building to build the level 1 walls? Or 4,500 for the gate only (always lv.1)? Why can not I use the resources obtained through the buildings of my first city already enhanced with drafts? Tell me! And the accelerations elixie? What do you tell me?

I want to ask you a question: if you are a spendthrift, why should you be well off spending more money? Tell me! I speak for the benefit of everyone, not for the exclusive benefit of some. And I repeat that I spent a lot of money up to now, to build the best walls, to buy champions and legendary units and also to better dress the general and activate all his skills (lv.25)! What else do you want from me? I adore SWOE, and that's why I'm complaining about these things; I do not want to be forced to leave a game I've spent almost the last 4 years on. But I will, if the developers prove insensitive to this. But I want to try, even if surely I will not succeed. I do not care who you are, nor if you work for Plarium and you are trying to mask a general discontent and that is found on the game map, considering the many ghost towns.

Give peace to you, faithful man! I do not want the evil of the game; only that this is more accessible to everyone. Greater accessibility, more users, I believe ...

I agree with Diogene

I think the Elysian city is like putting make-up on a pig... it's still a pig!  Plarium is not willing (or able) to fix the long list of current - and well documented - bugs in the game so they throw out a huge "new feature" and hope players will be so awed that they forget how badly the game works right now.  The new "feature" is nothing but more of the SOS... nothing new or interesting here.  No new strategies. No new features.  Just more boring clicks, endless wait times and expensive stuff to buy.  Alina tows the company line: you don't need to buy it, you can spend Drachmas you win to pay for it... I call this BS.  I have discussed this illusion with a friend who is a "Super-coiner" and he said that even at his level (128) and spending huge amounts he still doesn't get any significant drachma rewards for his spending.  He stated that the only way to make a Drachma profit in the game is not to play :) He ranks in the top 10 all-time in several categories and is Hegemon of one of the top 10 coalitions in Sparta so he definitely knows what he is talking about.

The Elysian city is a hook baited for those who feel they have invested too much to quit so they'll jump on it and throw their money away. It could backfire on Plarium if too many players decide to quit instead of throwing more money in the hole.

Like Diogene I am a moderate coiner, played the game for 5 years and I have been buying packages regularly.  But I refuse to spend money on Guardians, City Skins, "Window dressing" units (units that you cant build and have to buy), & PAs because I really dont like those features but I could ignore them and still compete.

With the Elysian city and its super costly features you are raising the ante... You are telling me that in order to stay in I have to invest more money and more time.  I will call your bluff. All package purchases from me stop today.  If the Elysian city proves to be the demise of Sparta at least I wont throw any more money away.

Mikalosos said:

Like Diogene I am a moderate coiner, played the game for 5 years and I have been buying packages regularly.  But I refuse to spend money on Guardians, City Skins, "Window dressing" units (units that you cant build and have to buy), & PAs because I really dont like those features but I could ignore them and still compete.

I am a moderate coiner aswell. Just like you.. I don't buy guardians packages, city skins, I actually only buy certain packages and only when they are cheaper. And like you said still able to compete. - at least on some level. There is still people I have to avoid ofcourse, but I have super strong players in my coalition aswell, so they fight eachother - not me. Unless I want to - you can always get action. There is alot more moderate players versus super-coiners as you call them. Play around them guys. I could break down how you do that, but I mean.. Many of you played for years, you know how to play the game. Actually if all free/low/moderate players did play around the biggest players, it would change the game. It will take time but it would change the game. And trust me, playing around "the problem" is the only way to solve it. It could end up in, super coiners only playing super coiners and that will end quick - because they are not stupid, money is money. 

Again, I sometimes see a comment like.. It was better 1-2-3-4 years ago.. 1. Maybe, but not anymore. 2. I know for a fact that the last 2-3 years its been like it is now - huge unbalance. No change, if any the gab only gets bigger. So, that leaves us with - play around it or leave.

Coeus said:

Diogene said:

Coeus said:

Calm the **** down. Blablabla. This complain about unbalance... I read one guy saying like it was way better 1 year ago.. Like wtf. I played a few years now, and its been unbalanced since I started. I am still here. So are you. One of you is like... its about getting us addicted.. Well yeah. You are already addicted. Thats how the brain works, how life works. Its about making money... Well yeah. I am still here. So are you. All of you are basically complaining about people that spend money, or more money than you, get things done faster than you, thats it! Uuhh you can't keep up with the elite... Like you did that 2 weeks ago, or 2 years ago. Fact is, you can develop the elysian city slowly, but free. Also. Let me say this, if this game doesnt get new features, we can call this update an expansion.. Then I would leave, and trust me I am not alone (as you would say). I need new features. Why don't you go find a 15 year old game and play, they wont get a update ever. Go find some old game.. Figure out the meta or look it up on the internet and play that day in day out for the rest of your life. And no I don't like the unbalance - I already stated that several times in several threads for plarium to see. But it is what it is - and you can just leave the game. 

Now you people are going to blame me for working for plarium or something like that... But no. I say what I want about them and you, whenever I want. I dont care about any of you. I am just here to play a ****** game. Do you want my coords?

I did not understand anything of what you wrote, nor even if you are in a polemical tone with me or someone in particular. But I'm not interested in it; I'm not here to make controversy with other users, but to complain about a "bad" news from certain points of view. I express my point of view, but I can assure you that this is not just my thought (there are users in my league who have already expressed their intention to leave the game). As I said, the point is that this city Elysia has nothing functional to play, if not to spend money on users to develop a new city from the beginning. But if I wanted to develop a new city, with more or less the same functionality as the previous one, I would create a new account and have the same effect.

What do you want to demonstrate with your incomprehensible comment? What people are totally for nothing? Well ... This is still people who are part of the game, and whose opinions should also count something, otherwise you'll find yourself playing with the other spenders, and raiding 80-90 level cities desolately abandoned by other players. Do you understand it? You can not ask 15,000 drachmas to buy a second master craftsman, after that, previously, I bought 3 for the first city paying a lot of money (and now they do not need anymore, because most of the buildings have been developed) . You can not ask for 4,000 drafts (40,000 drachmas) to develop the acropolis so that light infantry elixie units are immediately placed inside it once they are produced. For the elisia cavalry, how many drafts will they serve? 6,000? 7,000? I spent a lot of money to upgrade the acropolis ... You can not put me in the condition to spend more in this way! If I spend money I want it to buy something I like, not something I necessarily need! Why do I have to spend 1,300 drachmas per single building to build the level 1 walls? Or 4,500 for the gate only (always lv.1)? Why can not I use the resources obtained through the buildings of my first city already enhanced with drafts? Tell me! And the accelerations elixie? What do you tell me?

I want to ask you a question: if you are a spendthrift, why should you be well off spending more money? Tell me! I speak for the benefit of everyone, not for the exclusive benefit of some. And I repeat that I spent a lot of money up to now, to build the best walls, to buy champions and legendary units and also to better dress the general and activate all his skills (lv.25)! What else do you want from me? I adore SWOE, and that's why I'm complaining about these things; I do not want to be forced to leave a game I've spent almost the last 4 years on. But I will, if the developers prove insensitive to this. But I want to try, even if surely I will not succeed. I do not care who you are, nor if you work for Plarium and you are trying to mask a general discontent and that is found on the game map, considering the many ghost towns.

Give peace to you, faithful man! I do not want the evil of the game; only that this is more accessible to everyone. Greater accessibility, more users, I believe ...

Yeah my message is very hard to understand/comprehend. You express your opinion, I see. What do you think I do, pleb? People's opinions matter, I see. Do my opinion count? Do I have to share your view to not answer the same questions twice? Find myelf playing with other spenders, I see. You mean like you? You probably spend more than me. But anyways, I dont care if people spend money or not. I am way stronger versus someone that has never spend a dollar. And there is people out there 1000000 times stronger than me. So what. I don't care. I simply try to avoid the super huge players, its very simple dude. Its been like this since I started. I played the game a few weeks and then I already knew whats up, besides that its always been like that in games like this. So, if I end up playing with other spenders as you say, then I find a new way to move, or leave the game if I cant handle the situation. So you and the plebs can leave now okay. Do you understand? Hah. Ridiculous. I can not ask blablabla for more drachmas... As already said once - you plebs are complaining about you wont get what you want as fast as people with deep pockets. Thats it. Also. A game like this is a very long termed game right.. you played 4 years yourself you say, thats a long time.. So what is the problem. Can you comprehend it? The problem is you immediately think about, oh no this and this guy will have everything upgraded in two days or whatever, oh no they will have a huge advantage big benefits oh no. Again. You were never stronger, as strong, even close to these people in the first place, not two weeks ago, not two years ago, not four years ago when you started. But you managed to play around that and grow, right. So what is the damn problem. The problem is money. Accept the fact that people spend money, just like all the four years you have been playing or leave the game. Do you understand? 

So, why should I be well of spending more money you say. I am not advocating for that. But thats the way it is. I either accept it or leave. I already said this aswell, but the words was I know.. incomprehensible. I dont like the unbalance. There you go. Do you understand it? I can add here what I personally would do if I had a game like this or all the money in the world... I would make several servers. 1 with a limit on spending money, could be $50-100-200 something. And 1 with no limits. Maybe one with no spending at all, but then there have to be a monthly payment - the servers are not free. But hey, its not like that here, accept it and play around it, or just leave.

Do not qoute my opinion again. You waste my time. Do you understand that? So soft.. Oh no he maybe talk about me. Im hurt. Babies. Play the game or leave. I am not alone, many people share my view, leave. 15000 drachmas oh no, leave. Try all you want you wont succeed, leave.

If you think an employee would write like I do... leave.

Plebs ... Ridicolous ... Babies ... Leave ... I hope that the moderators of this forum will do their job. You are a great rude: you offend people for a trifle, because obviously you are not able to confront civilly. I have not offended you in any way, while you can not do anything else. It is clear that your purpose is not to discuss "a new feature", but to attack a lot, probably to cover the real problems. You have not replied to anyone, ANYONE of the points that I have highlighted. Believe that the problem is related to the development times of the city, not realizing that before or after expenses not just in terms of drachmas or money will have to be supported anyway. Your arguments are even worse than your writing. Give me a courtesy: do not reply to this post anymore ... You can go and attack a fight elsewhere.

Plebs ... Ridicolous ... Babies ... Leave ... I hope that the moderators of this forum will do their job. You are a great rude: you offend people for a trifle, because obviously you are not able to confront civilly. I have not offended you in any way, while you can not do anything else. It is clear that your purpose is not to discuss "a new feature", but to attack a lot, probably to cover the real problems. You have not replied to anyone, ANYONE of the points that I have highlighted. Believe that the problem is related to the development times of the city, not realizing that before or after expenses not just in terms of drachmas or money will have to be supported anyway. Your arguments are even worse than your writing. Give me a courtesy: do not reply to this post anymore ... You can go and attack a fight elsewhere.

You offend me when you quote me. - and it was not to discuss anything. You are full of negativity. Like you are here to discuss anything. You make a comment on the new feature. And I make a comment on all you constant haters. You felt I talked to you, well it was also you, but you chose to reply to me. Its a forum. Not your forum. Just a forum. And now you cant handle it. Oh please moderators help me.. But you are right, I am not here discuss anything I am here to destroy your constant negativity. - and I clearly get through. My arguments are even worse than my writing... mmm okay. Oh uh that hurt. I hope the mods will do their job.. He bully me.. Oohh. Let me just say your english has alot of mistakes aswell. Also you couldnt comprehend my basic english, remember? And english is not my first language - and I still destroy you. I could even destroy you in Italian through a translator. I look forward to the highly educated discussion that will take place here... you ridicolous monkey.

hijadelafortuna T.I.A. said:

why we were never informed that you will take out the right that we had for years since the beginning of game of the 30-55 seconds free to recall troops for free (reinforcement or attacks)? another hidden actions to take out something good from us, now we have to pay .... thats a hidden tax of this new city, and the worst, is that it was done with malice, not informing. hoping we will not realise? we would not complain? we know plairum does not care for us, but this is going beyond any customer service i have seen in my life....

It's trueee! I had not noticed this "novelty". Perfectly in line with everything else: obliging users to use the "Immediate recall of troops" which is a paid feature. From bad to worse! GG PLARIUM!

Coeus, who are you? A plarium developer or are you a shareholder of it? But anyway, it does not matter at all. One thing you are above all: bad mannered!

But, coming back to the topic itself. If a game developer like plarium does not have any other solution to "improve" a game starting a new city in a disney like fairy world to restart game completely as if all players just play game to waste more money - it is certainly not because of "motivating" experienced players as claimed - it only shows one thing: an embarrassing lack of fantasy and proves that plarium developers never really had any meaningful plan to develop a game improving step by step to keep it up, on the contrary! Plarium responsibles very well know that players once spending time and money to build up city, units ... do not stop playing just because they treat us as if we were stubborn and stupid kids only complaining about every new feature. But if admins, mods and all others belonging to plarium claim to be respectetd at every opportunity, they really should start thinking about the fact that plarium only cheats players and - even they do not like to read it - just treat us like to be stupid nerds! Anyone who does not agree with me should probably read following comment by Alina Phoenix carefully again, especially following passages:

"a typical reaction to ANYchanges is a DENIAL"... What a nonsense!

..."where they can EARN Drachmas"... Earn Drachmas??!! What game are you talking about?!

" To complete the tutorial quests for the Elysian city, you don't need to use the in-game purchases"... Right! But then ou need years to develop anything then and finally you have to spend money to develop it for sure. Or has anybody forgotten how game works?

Finally all of us who dare to criticise so called "improvements" are being punished to behave like stubborn children: "it's easier to say that the feature brings nothing positive, but it would be nice if you at least try playing it for some time before making such conclusions."

So, all of us criticising god like plarium responsibles do not criticise we COMPLAIN ABOUT every single in game improvement. You see the difference? We should be ashamed to behave like this. Is this a respectful behaviour towards us as players? I play this game not because of it but the fact i am still getting aquainted with other adults (a fact, that does not apply to most other online games...). If I played it because of game I would have stopped playing it for years...

But now the whole comment:

"Hello!

I understand that a typical reaction to any change is a denial. Especially, when the change is big and brings a lot of the new staff. 

The first thing everyone should keep in mind is that Elysian is a feature for experienced players who upgraded the majority of things in the main City.

Such players are active in different kind of in-game activities where they can earn Drachmas. So, it's the second thing to consider: you don't need to spend real money to get Drachmas, you need to be active in the game and earn them from the in-game activities.

To complete the tutorial quests for the Elysian city, you don't need to use the in-game purchases, but completing them gives a perfect chance to start developing this City step-by-step.

You don't need to spend anything to have the first Artisan, you can get it absolutely for free.

Yes, it's easier to say that the feature brings nothing positive, but it would be nice if you at least try playing it for some time before making such conclusions."

RED KITE said:

Coeus, who are you? A plarium developer or are you a shareholder of it? But anyway, it does not matter at all. One thing you are above all: bad mannered!

But, coming back to the topic itself. If a game developer like plarium does not have any other solution to "improve" a game starting a new city in a disney like fairy world to restart game completely as if all players just play game to waste more money - it is certainly not because of "motivating" experienced players as claimed - it only shows one thing: an embarrassing lack of fantasy and proves that plarium developers never really had any meaningful plan to develop a game improving step by step to keep it up, on the contrary! Plarium responsibles very well know that players once spending time and money to build up city, units ... do not stop playing just because they treat us as if we were stubborn and stupid kids only complaining about every new feature. But if admins, mods and all others belonging to plarium claim to be respectetd at every opportunity, they really should start thinking about the fact that plarium only cheats players and - even they do not like to read it - just treat us like to be stupid nerds! Anyone who does not agree with me should probably read following comment by Alina Phoenix carefully again, especially following passages:

"a typical reaction to ANYchanges is a DENIAL"... What a nonsense!

..."where they can EARN Drachmas"... Earn Drachmas??!! What game are you talking about?!

" To complete the tutorial quests for the Elysian city, you don't need to use the in-game purchases"... Right! But then ou need years to develop anything then and finally you have to spend money to develop it for sure. Or has anybody forgotten how game works?

Finally all of us who dare to criticise so called "improvements" are being punished to behave like stubborn children: "it's easier to say that the feature brings nothing positive, but it would be nice if you at least try playing it for some time before making such conclusions."

So, all of us criticising god like plarium responsibles do not criticise we COMPLAIN ABOUT every single in game improvement. You see the difference? We should be ashamed to behave like this. Is this a respectful behaviour towards us as players? I play this game not because of it but the fact i am still getting aquainted with other adults (a fact, that does not apply to most other online games...). If I played it because of game I would have stopped playing it for years...

But now the whole comment:

"Hello!

I understand that a typical reaction to any change is a denial. Especially, when the change is big and brings a lot of the new staff. 

The first thing everyone should keep in mind is that Elysian is a feature for experienced players who upgraded the majority of things in the main City.

Such players are active in different kind of in-game activities where they can earn Drachmas. So, it's the second thing to consider: you don't need to spend real money to get Drachmas, you need to be active in the game and earn them from the in-game activities.

To complete the tutorial quests for the Elysian city, you don't need to use the in-game purchases, but completing them gives a perfect chance to start developing this City step-by-step.

You don't need to spend anything to have the first Artisan, you can get it absolutely for free.

Yes, it's easier to say that the feature brings nothing positive, but it would be nice if you at least try playing it for some time before making such conclusions."

One thing you are above all : Predictable. And you seem pretty stupid aswell. - and its just one message so far. I assume you are here to "discuss" the issue aswell right, like the other pleb. But all I see is bs. None of you really say anything. You just state your negative opinion, thats it. And don't get me wrong - feel free to do that. Just understand that when you write in a public forum there is chance you get a reply you didnt expect or like. I understand you sheeps are not used to this and you didnt expect it here.. No.. It was the players versus plarium right. I know all your opinions sheep, its the popular one. I know everything about group mentality, everything about psychology , I know exactly how you guys function just by reading a few messages from you. Do yourself a favor, "discuss" this without meantioning my name/quote me, because I will reply, and you guys clearly can't handle it. You call it bad manners. Well I can call it wake up pleb, take control. You guys dont discuss, or bring anything to the table, at all - so take control - and leave monkey. Are you so addicted you can't control yourself?

Is there anything els you two plebs, I mean well mannered mature men and geniuses, would like to discuss with me? I will most likely get chat banned, even though I shouldnt be. I actually educate the so called younger people they say they protect agaisnt my wording. This might sound a bit.... But the world needs people like me. They dont need people like you at all. There is a billion of you. Boring and predictable.

Tonaya said:

Coeus,who is ridiculous monkey?

Tonaya

DIOGENE is a monkey. And to make it clear.. Its not like a racist thing. When I say monkey, I mean monkey-level. I talk about your brain.

ok I was hoping NOT to do this however this thread is starting to turn into a flame match 

opinions stated about the game are fine

swear words are not 

calling other members names is not 

insulting other game players is not 

knock it off everyone or else the Morteeee ban hammer comes out 

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