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13 фев. 2019, 13:4013.02.19
20.11.15
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Deffensive guardians

I have noticed that when you send deffensive troops to a deserted city, and guardian with them, it doesnt give you the bonus when your affinity is dominant. 

i can understand that about live city, if that player didnt activated any affinity, but how will a dead city activate it?


So in this case the attacker is always in advantage no matter what affinity guardian he/she sends.


now why is that? I think it should be changed, and that if you do send guardian to deserted city affinity should count and give you the bonus if it is a dominant affinity. If you can use offensive guardians on a deserted city, why you shouldnt be able to use deffensive one as well?
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15 фев. 2019, 15:1315.02.19
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Sandy HBG said:


I have noticed that when you send deffensive troops to a deserted city, and guardian with them, it doesnt give you the bonus when your affinity is dominant. 

i can understand that about live city, if that player didnt activated any affinity, but how will a dead city activate it?


So in this case the attacker is always in advantage no matter what affinity guardian he/she sends.


now why is that? I think it should be changed, and that if you do send guardian to deserted city affinity should count and give you the bonus if it is a dominant affinity. If you can use offensive guardians on a deserted city, why you shouldnt be able to use deffensive one as well?

Hello!

If you send Units with Guardians to a deserted City to Raid/Siege it why would you use Defensive Guardian?

15 фев. 2019, 20:4815.02.19
29.12.14
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course you would use defensive guardian to get extra strength for your defense/siege from raiders to this city. Surely even you can see this alina??
18 фев. 2019, 09:1818.02.19
20.11.15
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I was refering to deffensive units to hold the siedge, like jeff explained.
18 фев. 2019, 16:1918.02.19
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It's not possible to activate Guardian sent as Reinforcement no matter whether it's a dead City or not.

It's the reason why Affinity is not taken into account in case of reinforcements.
19 фев. 2019, 08:4219.02.19
20.11.15
51

Alina Phoenix said:


It's not possible to activate Guardian sent as Reinforcement no matter whether it's a dead City or not.

It's the reason why Affinity is not taken into account in case of reinforcements.

And why is that? It makes no sence to me. And what do you mean by activating Guardian, you dont need to activate them. You just send them with troops. Type of guardian depends on what are you doing.


And if you attack a siedge and can use offensive guardian, why players that keep the siedge shouldnt be able to use a deffense guardian? Like i mentioned it automaticly gives the attacker advantage. Or am i getting this wrong? but i doubt it.
19 фев. 2019, 12:1219.02.19
29.12.14
104
If the offensive guardian is left there with the siege do you get that bonus of defense instead? which if so would be contradictory to what the guardians purpose is originally for.
19 фев. 2019, 13:4219.02.19
29.12.14
104

Hi Sandy


just done an experiment so bear with me, siege with offense and offense guardian, after siege hits, send defense reinforcements with defense guardian, when defense lands with defense guardian, recall offense and offense guardian, you will still have siege with defense guardian in place. I asked friend to raid the siege and I got the 25% bonus from the defense guardian. Long winded way of doing things but it seemed to work. Hope this helps, experiment in small scale see if it works for you.

19 фев. 2019, 16:0119.02.19
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Yes you are right you can send a defense Guardian to any city active or inactive and bonus can be achieved while defending a siege, as you mentioned above it is a bit more on the long run but still available.


22 фев. 2019, 10:4922.02.19
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Let me explain in details how siege with Guardians works:

1. You can send City Offense Guardian for the siege.

2. Guardian will give Bonuses to your Units in the same way as with Raid.

3. In case of the successful siege, City Offense Guardian will stay as reinforcement with other Units, but it won't give any Bonuses to them.

4. To get bonuses, you need to recall City Offense Guardian and send City Defense Guardian instead.

5. You can send up to 3 Guardians, but only the most powerful one will take part in the Battle.

6. The affinity of the besieged City is determined by the highest number of Guardians with the same Affinity stationed in the siege.

For example, if there are 2 Champions of Water and 1 of Earth, the main affinity will be Water as there are 2 Guardians of it.

If you have 1 Champion of Water and 1 Champion of Earth, then there will be no main affinity and Bonus will automatically go to the attacker.

22 фев. 2019, 18:5522.02.19
29.12.14
104

Not the answer you gave earlier in this thread alina.


It's not possible to activate Guardian sent as Reinforcement no matter whether it's a dead City or not.

It's the reason why Affinity is not taken into account in case of reinforcements.


please before you dismiss any enquiry on forum, do some more research, the glib and hasty off putting answers you often give alienate players, Please try to be on their side for once.

25 фев. 2019, 13:0225.02.19
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jeff hellman said:


Not the answer you gave earlier in this thread alina.


It's not possible to activate Guardian sent as Reinforcement no matter whether it's a dead City or not.

It's the reason why Affinity is not taken into account in case of reinforcements.


please before you dismiss any enquiry on forum, do some more research, the glib and hasty off putting answers you often give alienate players, Please try to be on their side for once.

It's not about anyone's side, Jeff.

Player asked why Affinity can't be activated in another City and it still can't be activated in this way https://www.screencast.com/t/BGr8luLMsakF

Still, Affinity activates (or not) when we talk about the battle itself and not activation in the City.

I'm sorry if I didn't understand the players' question at once. Hope now everything is clear.

26 фев. 2019, 09:4926.02.19
07.10.15
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Alina you are completely wrong. I doubt that it is a question of ''activating'' guardians affinity. You can only activate guardians affinity in your own city by station them in the city. We understand that.

The problem is when you send defense troops and defense guardian with them. There is nothing to activate in this move you make. Your guardian has affinity and if that affinity beats the attackers affinity, you should get 25% boost. If attacker doesn't send guardian, than your guardian's affinity (no matter what it is) should get you that 25% more...? right?

So here is a test on deserted city:





So defensive guardian gets the bonus, because hers affinity is earth and it beats watter. This feature didn't worked before. Jeff said few days ago that it is working now, so we tested it. And it looks like it is working now properly.

But here is another example: Player send defense to stop attacker and guardian. Attacker didn't send guardian, so the one defending the city should get bonus and yet she didn't, now why is that? 





I don't need to mention that attacker failed, but no bonus was added. Now why is that?


Let me tell you why. It's because the game is bugged, slow, and you people keep adding stuff without fixing old bugs. 


You keep us doing your job from the day 1 in this game. And even when we provide you with solid proofs of the bugs, all you do is claim ''it is a regular part of the game play''. I can't even imagine how many times i saw you and moderators replied like that.


 When I had discussion about your so called Algorithm with that Dimitry dude, he refused to listen, and after I posted proofs that all mighty Algorithm is bad, and it should be fixed, he didn't even want to talk anymore. He just kept deleting my posts, and after I told him to take his all mighty algorithm and put it somewhere, he proved that he has more power on forum than I do...


I still haven't changed my opinion about the so called algorithm... It is still bad... Here is an explanation of that word:


''An algorithm in mathematics is a procedure, a description of a set of steps that can be used to solve a mathematical computation''...


You are using us to solve the in game problems. Developers should do this tests, not us.

26 фев. 2019, 10:1226.02.19
28 фев. 2019, 10:33(отредактировано)
07.10.15
46

RED said:


Yes you are right you can send a defense Guardian to any city active or inactive and bonus can be achieved while defending a siege, as you mentioned above it is a bit more on the long run but still available.


So RED what is it that you have to do to achieve that bonus? Be a superhero? 


As you can see in that picture i posted, bonus wasn't achieved. Even if attacker didn't failed bonus should be achieved, because he/she didn't send guardian on attack...
4 март 2019, 09:1304.03.19
07.10.15
46
so 6 days and still no reply... wonder why...?
4 март 2019, 21:2504.03.19
29.12.14
104
simples then really dont send guardians and what is the point if you do, you have 33% chance of losing guardian bonus 0% chance of losing if you dont, kinda makes them redundant in a lot of circumstances. Glad some coiners have spent fortunes on them and they are useless.