pom said:

NWO coalitions have achieved total domination, occuping the top 20 positions in ranking and may be 90% of pantheons.

So the question now is : is the game over?, and what should other coalitions strive to achive??

Moving this to Topic 'Coalitions' Archon.

"Total Domination"? I respect NWO and they are indeed a strong coalition, so strong as a matter of fact, that they are the number 1 federation in Sparta. This can be argued upon, but its mainly true that they are a very powerful coalition. 

But they don't control 90% of the pantheons; Terminators (though we are currently shedding pantheons) still hold a large area of land. Also, although Outlaws have been cutting down on their pans, Lost Souls and co. Hold a vast part of the area as well, and are competing with HOB for first place.

Also, although NWO do have the most members in the top 20, they don't hold the majority of coalitions in the top 20. Here are the coalitions that belong to a federation (those that do not have a federation listed either I couldn't find what they were part of in their coalition landing page, or something else)

HOB House of Batiatus (NWO) 
Lost Souls (IFS, and second place only by a small margin)
TERMINATORS 
Kracken (HBG)
Lost Souls Alpha (IFS)
Mayhem Makers (NWO)
BOK Band of Killerz (NWO) 
Zyka ?
Union Hispartana (NWO)
Razorbacks (NWO)
Parabellum ?  
Bir Gurkhalis ? (They have a bad relation with Stronghold, so not sure they are in NWO. Pretty sure Stronghold is with NWO)
Stronghold (NWO, assumption, nothing on their coalition landing page stating so)
Equilibrium
Thersites Rising - No federation
Nordmann (NWO)
House of Heracles (COR)
TERMS 3
House of Gods (HBG)
Vis Et Virtus (HBG)

As you can see, there are other federations occupying the top 20; one even contesting to get right back up in 1st. IFS, HBG, and COR all could complete. Some coalitions maybe aren't even in a federation (they might be, they might not, I apologize. Please correct me in the form if this is true). And those coalitions that don't even have a coalition might even be closer to 1st; like Terminators

So the game isn't over yet. It wasn't over when the top four coalitions kept a monopoly on the leader board for over a year before federations went in full throttle (no disrespect meant there). But there have been many coalitions part of these federations that went from the middle of the leader board to now in the top 25. You know how they did it? A collective of smart minds came together and formed a federation; not taking it lightly and helping their allies. They made an elite group, and although I don't like the aspect of putting cash into a game, elite groups with allies and a strong army is how they became the strongest federations to roam on Hellas. So you want to know how other coalitions can compete? Create a federation. Collect smart minds together and come up with a plan. Compare Strategies and attack/defense plans. And HELP EACH OTHER OUT

This is the strategy to winning. Diplomacy matters here unless you happen to be Athena whom have made a name for themselves and already have a boatload of offense and defense, so apparently they don't need many allies or a federations. But if you want to do the "David vs "Goliath" (again, no disrespect meant there) fight, you have to go it smart. You might not need a federation; you can just have a bunch of allies and that can work as well

~Alab

P.S., I would like to share my congratulations to all of the coalitions listed above. You have done a really nice job retaining or gaining you rank. Keep up the good work.

TherSites is without a federation.

Vodkaonice said:

TherSites is without a federation.

they left Nwo

Federations are stupid.

Prometheus said:

Vodkaonice said:

TherSites is without a federation.

they left Nwo

The might have left,but they still belong there :) That's how they earned the pans they holding now. Also rumours has it, that you and your alt Floris got kicked because you caused troubles to Thersites by attacking Nordman guys :)

i can honestly tell you those rumours are false ;) 

they left but they still have all their diplo in place with those coalitions thats correct

Vodkaonice said:

TherSites is without a federation.

they left Nwo

The might have left,but they still belong there :) That's how they earned the pans they holding now. Also rumours has it, that you and your alt Floris got kicked because you caused troubles to Thersites by attacking Nordman guys :)

Prometheus said:

Vodkaonice said:

TherSites is without a federation.

they left Nwo

The might have left,but they still belong there :) That's how they earned the pans they holding now. Also rumours has it, that you and your alt Floris got kicked because you caused troubles to Thersites by attacking Nordman guys :)

Alts are illegal, you know that :)

Theres really allot of pantheons guys and MMs gladly give ones they clean out from coas that are atking us to small coalitions to prosper, we really got no intention of holding bilion pans, ones we have now are only for some ranking and prestige coz many ppl think that we are weak if we dont hold pans but same time we couldnt care less about them we are a PVP coa. allways were and allways will be u can see example of us dropping 4 pantheons even 2 outside ones which we could have easily hold simply giving them to coas that asked, our general idea and pourpose of MMs as coalition is to stop monopol of some coalitions that were occupying nearly entire sparta map for very long time and bullying smaller ones, allot of ppl quitted game thinking they cannot prosper due to thos coalitions but a group as NWO showed them that they are not untouchable and easily defetable and that their arrogance is paid in troops. Any smaller coalition that wants to hold a pantheon can allways come to me with a simple in game msg and if they are ready to hold a pan MMs will gladly give to them without any strings attached, without you changing name to MM 1,2,3,4,5,56 or anything else.

Have a nice day.

K4ne

K4ne said:

Theres really allot of pantheons guys and MMs gladly give ones they clean out from coas that are atking us to small coalitions to prosper, we really got no intention of holding bilion pans, ones we have now are only for some ranking and prestige coz many ppl think that we are weak if we dont hold pans but same time we couldnt care less about them we are a PVP coa. allways were and allways will be u can see example of us dropping 4 pantheons even 2 outside ones which we could have easily hold simply giving them to coas that asked, our general idea and pourpose of MMs as coalition is to stop monopol of some coalitions that were occupying nearly entire sparta map for very long time and bullying smaller ones, allot of ppl quitted game thinking they cannot prosper due to thos coalitions but a group as NWO showed them that they are not untouchable and easily defetable and that their arrogance is paid in troops. Any smaller coalition that wants to hold a pantheon can allways come to me with a simple in game msg and if they are ready to hold a pan MMs will gladly give to them without any strings attached, without you changing name to MM 1,2,3,4,5,56 or anything else.

Have a nice day.

K4ne

NWO Mayhem Makers

I am sure about it, I got respect for some NWO Coals. But what did HBGm UN and GC did to you to attack and ellimiate some of them?

K4ne said:

Prometheus, to answer ur question:

 then they went too far by poking their nose in our war zone trying to take pan that belonged to someone else and after being warned about it they tried to trap my player loosing some 60ish mils defense in process - my player won, but that was something

K4ne

NWO Mayhem Makers

K4ne, 

seems like you have some kids at home :) Youre story has many fantasy in it. And of course the war is only at his beginning. NWO threating and blackmailing many coals also like ours. We had an agreement with a borderline and Empire of Batiatus hurt it. Seems like you are searching some reason to go to war ;) But not a problem for us, to defend our Pans against all NWO Coals hurts the Offense of NWO very much. And because of this now we have to act a little bit mor offensive. 

By the way in the last week, at first day B.O.K. lost 10 Pans, Helena has lost all her Pans, Obsidian lost one pan, Storm Chaser lost 5 Pan, Sting lost 2 Pan and of course we downgrade Bir Gurkalis Capitol ;)

But i have one question: Why do you need half of a day to get 3 Pans with all NWO Coals from only 1 Coalition ? Seems like you arent so strong as you tell. And I also dont see you at this big hit ;) You allways let fight the others and look at this war with some beer and snacks. You are a very brave player. 

The last attacks on United Nation I also heard some rumours that Razorbacks dont want to fight. Seems like NWO will broke ;)

Let us all look what the future will bring. I think when you want to fly hi up to the sky the landing could be harder then you expect.

Best of luck to all honest Gamers 

Gemix

Diplomacy Germanicus Cultus

"The last attacks on United Nation I also heard some rumours that Razorbacks dont want to fight. Seems like NWO will broke ;)"

"raised their capitols with true fights not with cheating ;)"

I am not going to get in to a war of words with you Gemix. But I will give you the truth as I see it.

NWO is going strong, as far as I can tell.

We do not attack Un, as this is a private battle not a NWO battle. The Razorbacks have offered help if it is required, but it hasn't been required obviously. Razorbacks have not been hit by any UN coalition so we have not needed to retaliate either.

If you say it is cheating, finding loopholes in the way Plarium has set up the game. I suggest u do the honourable thing and give back all the extra resources you have cheated out of them with the raiding trick.

This is a game of skills and diplomacy just as much as war and killing, so is it not smart game play avoiding paying for dead troops and using the loophole where we can.

Regards

Blat (Razorbcks)

MCGemix said:

K4ne, 

seems like you have some kids at home :) Youre story has many fantasy in it. And of course the war is only at his beginning. NWO threating and blackmailing many coals also like ours. We had an agreement with a borderline and Empire of Batiatus hurt it. Seems like you are searching some reason to go to war ;) But not a problem for us, to defend our Pans against all NWO Coals hurts the Offense of NWO very much. And because of this now we have to act a little bit mor offensive. 

By the way in the last week, at first day B.O.K. lost 10 Pans, Helena has lost all her Pans, Obsidian lost one pan, Storm Chaser lost 5 Pan, Sting lost 2 Pan and of course we downgrade Bir Gurkalis Capitol ;)

But i have one question: Why do you need half of a day to get 3 Pans with all NWO Coals from only 1 Coalition ? Seems like you arent so strong as you tell. And I also dont see you at this big hit ;) You allways let fight the others and look at this war with some beer and snacks. You are a very brave player. 

The last attacks on United Nation I also heard some rumours that Razorbacks dont want to fight. Seems like NWO will broke ;)

Let us all look what the future will bring. I think when you want to fly hi up to the sky the landing could be harder then you expect.

Best of luck to all honest Gamers 

Gemix

Diplomacy Germanicus Cultus

Well Mr. Gemix  

I strongly suggest that you change the herbs that you are smoking in order to come down from your hallucinations.

The lies and insults you are spreading here are may some personal characteristic issue of you.

Since you are flying high in your diplomatic job in Cultus you may not forget that the crap you post here does not change the image of Germanicus Cultus to the better. I suggest you step down from diplomacy since you do not fit into this job cause of your personal identity issues you seem to have.

Perhaps I am misleaded and you do reflect the policies of cultus which would make germanicus cultus a laughing stock in sparta, as  only liars and intrigants blame other coalitions in doing likewise.

Btw: there are other guys in your coalition which can express themselves more eloquently in english than you may be ever able :)

kind regards

Akko

Eyynar said:

MCGemix said:

K4ne, 

seems like you have some kids at home :) Youre story has many fantasy in it. And of course the war is only at his beginning. NWO threating and blackmailing many coals also like ours. We had an agreement with a borderline and Empire of Batiatus hurt it. Seems like you are searching some reason to go to war ;) But not a problem for us, to defend our Pans against all NWO Coals hurts the Offense of NWO very much. And because of this now we have to act a little bit mor offensive. 

By the way in the last week, at first day B.O.K. lost 10 Pans, Helena has lost all her Pans, Obsidian lost one pan, Storm Chaser lost 5 Pan, Sting lost 2 Pan and of course we downgrade Bir Gurkalis Capitol ;)

The last attacks on United Nation I also heard some rumours that Razorbacks dont want to fight. Seems like NWO will broke ;)

Let us all look what the future will bring. I think when you want to fly hi up to the sky the landing could be harder then you expect.

Best of luck to all honest Gamers 

Gemix

Diplomacy Germanicus Cultus

Dear Gemix,

seems like that you are very talented as storyteller. If I read your statement, its full of assumptions and you are really not very familiar with facts so far.

If I take a look at the Pan Map now, I see 

31 LVL 5 Pans held by LS

18 LVL 5 Pans held by HoB

19 LVL 5 Pans held by Term

18 LVL 5 Pans held by KRA

23 LVL 5 Pans held by LS Alpha

7 LVL 5 Pans held by MM

9 LVL 5 Pans held by BOK

12 LVL 5 Pans held by Zyka

8 LVL 5 Pans held by UH

7 LVL 5 Pans held by Razor

10 LVL 5 Pans held by PAR

9 LVL 5 Pans held by BIR

3 LVL 5 Pans held by Strong

13 LVL 5 Pans held by Equil

3 LVL 5 Pans held by TR

These are only the Top 15 Coas, 49 Pans of these are held by NWO. 

Before War against DI Family started, NWO already had around 30. We took down about 95 from DI Fam . That means, 80% of former DI Pans has been taken from other Coas or had given away by NWO. 

So your Try, to arrange NWO as an aggressor FAILED so far. 

You started War against us and lost your pans, thats it...

Nice list! 

Spa said: Nice list!

K4ne said: Dont worry you wont be on that list anytime soon

i think only ifs can take down nwo

RopsuHood said:

We are a fair federation and even gave UN and GC the chance to have a fair fight with the one coalition they had provoked. 

But instead they try their luck and start poking at other NWO coalitions, which leads to them getting involved.

RopsuHood

House of Batiatus

Jesuzzz....

Somes have to stop the weed..... If MM having Nordmanns,Nordmanns 2,Union1 &2 & 3,BTM,Storms chasers,Zeus and few marginals hiting us on first 24h is a fair Fight , K4ne must feel quite unsecure against quote "a U.N failure  Coa ".

Also we got ansers to my inquiries "why ": "quote " Just for points , nothing serious ", " we have been request to attac " ect....

Scenario of HOB is simple, put bully´s cleaning areas, then put Hob or Nwo family hold pans with nothing while making new coa to move in the area, because HOB is feared and have diplo with most of coa, nobody can come between,and in case you try to defend your territory you have all NWO on your back.

So you have to ask permission to HOB via diplo if you want to make a move to Xeres pans LOL....

[4.9.2016 17:13:22] Rott HOB: Seems Un is attacking my batiatus family again

[4.9.2016 17:13:53] Bator, UN-1: not aware

[4.9.2016 17:14:30] Bator, UN-1: if you mean EOB_HOB

[4.9.2016 17:15:58] Rott HOB: Zeus is also my coa

[4.9.2016 17:17:54] Bator, UN-1: they took 273 out of us via mayem-nordmans.union-1-union-2-BTM-nordman-2

[4.9.2016 17:18:07] Rott HOB: They took from xerxes

[4.9.2016 17:18:31] Bator, UN-1: get your story straight and come back

[4.9.2016 17:18:48] Bator, UN-1: when we take a pan from xeres we get all NWO on our back

[4.9.2016 17:18:53] Rott HOB: And as told

.....if you need something or something back...... Ask me and use diplomacy

[4.9.2016 17:19:42] Rott HOB: If you ask you get if you attack we Will retaliate

[4.9.2016 17:19:51] Rott HOB: Not to difficult

[4.9.2016 17:21:25] Bator, UN-1: after killing 20 pans you come up with this story ?

[4.9.2016 17:23:17] Rott HOB: I dont Come up with stories

[4.9.2016 17:23:38] Rott HOB: Last Time i said hob and family wont attack Un

[4.9.2016 17:24:32] Rott HOB: Now zeus took pan from xerxes and Un attacking them

If asked you to message me in case of problems

[4.9.2016 17:24:34] Bator, UN-1: and putting nwo killing pans and placing bataius after is an old trick

[4.9.2016 17:24:54] Rott HOB: I am not placing

[4.9.2016 17:25:04] Bator, UN-1: got to got

[4.9.2016 17:25:11] Bator, UN-1: call when you get serious

And for the story i have several time in UN history tried to Reach HOB´s  for differents matters, i never got a reply, so i would believe that contacting HOB diplo wouldn´t do any better.

zeus warrior took pan in war zone they did not contact us for that LOL

emp bat  took pan in war zone they did not contact us for that LOL

Hob took pan in war zone they did not contact us for that LOL

<one way diplo ahahahah

I like how everyone writes a load of bollocks here.

And the only ones telling lies and insulting NWO are the ones that have lost their pantheons and armies to us.

Honestly, if you want to talk, get your facts right and don't try to talk crap to "the big crowd".

We are a fair federation and even gave UN and GC the chance to have a fair fight with the one coalition they had provoked. 

But instead they try their luck and start poking at other NWO coalitions, which leads to them getting involved.

As Eyynar pointed out, we do not tend to keep all that we take. We try share with other coalitions, friends and allies.

And so far we have only done that.

RopsuHood

House of Batiatus

MCGemix said:

K4ne, 

seems like you have some kids at home :) Youre story has many fantasy in it. And of course the war is only at his beginning. NWO threating and blackmailing many coals also like ours. We had an agreement with a borderline and Empire of Batiatus hurt it. Seems like you are searching some reason to go to war ;) But not a problem for us, to defend our Pans against all NWO Coals hurts the Offense of NWO very much. And because of this now we have to act a little bit mor offensive. 

By the way in the last week, at first day B.O.K. lost 10 Pans, Helena has lost all her Pans, Obsidian lost one pan, Storm Chaser lost 5 Pan, Sting lost 2 Pan and of course we downgrade Bir Gurkalis Capitol ;)

The last attacks on United Nation I also heard some rumours that Razorbacks dont want to fight. Seems like NWO will broke ;)

Let us all look what the future will bring. I think when you want to fly hi up to the sky the landing could be harder then you expect.

Best of luck to all honest Gamers 

Gemix

Diplomacy Germanicus Cultus

Dear Gemix,

seems like that you are very talented as storyteller. If I read your statement, its full of assumptions and you are really not very familiar with facts so far.

If I take a look at the Pan Map now, I see 

31 LVL 5 Pans held by LS

18 LVL 5 Pans held by HoB

19 LVL 5 Pans held by Term

18 LVL 5 Pans held by KRA

23 LVL 5 Pans held by LS Alpha

7 LVL 5 Pans held by MM

9 LVL 5 Pans held by BOK

12 LVL 5 Pans held by Zyka

8 LVL 5 Pans held by UH

7 LVL 5 Pans held by Razor

10 LVL 5 Pans held by PAR

9 LVL 5 Pans held by BIR

3 LVL 5 Pans held by Strong

13 LVL 5 Pans held by Equil

3 LVL 5 Pans held by TR

These are only the Top 15 Coas, 49 Pans of these are held by NWO. 

Before War against DI Family started, NWO already had around 30. We took down about 95 from DI Fam . That means, 80% of former DI Pans has been taken from other Coas or had given away by NWO. 

So your Try, to arrange NWO as an aggressor FAILED so far. 

You started War against us and lost your pans, thats it...