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Let's chat about other ways you can get points,

So first off you can get points by leveling champions, let's look at a 2 star as an example

to level 1x 2 star to lvl 20 is 20 points and when you rank that champion you gain another 15 points for making a 3 star, so this totals 35 points, personally this is also where brews come in for me, I then use 1 brew on that new 3 stars which takes it to level 10, this adds another 20 points.

though when I'm leveling fodder I level 3 at a time, with equals to 55 points per champ, making my new total of 175 points, for about 130 energy(est).

in 1 day it's possible for up to 740 energy, which is about 5 runs of 130 energy with 90 energy to spare.

5x 175 points = 875 points per day, 

this is putting aside ranking 3 stars up to 4 stars.

for every 4 star you create you get 60 points for leveling and another 50 points for ranking that champ up, if you choose to use 1 brew once ranked, this adds another 27 points, bringing the total to 127 points per 1x4 star created, and again when I do these I do them in groups so 3x4 stars in this manner  is 381 points with about 190 energy(est)

This in no way considers any experience boosting or raid pass.

Overall I only mention this in hopes that it may help, I know these events are hard and I will also definitely pass this feedback on to the CM's and Devs.

Have fun and good luck.

Ne0deis said:

New Fusion is running and with that kind of events, RSL shows again how why free player shouldn't even bother going after it ... and eventually play the game.

So we need Suwaï which is accessible at 19,400 event points. We have 10 days before it ends which means 1,940 per day to get it.

1 stars fully leveled up : 10 points for 48 energy  => 9,312 energy per day

2 stars fully leveled up : 20 points for 152 energy => 14 744 energy per day

3 stars and above are even worse.

Each day you can win 480 energy (1 every 3 minutes) + 130 (play time reward) + 130 (arena daily) = 740 energy.

No need to go further ... this fusion is not for free to play players but for payers ... again.

Not sure where you got your numbers from but for these events I try and level and rank up 15 3 stars a day gaining about 1500 points. I'm not always able to get the 15 done as I refrain from using recharges, but a lot of the events this time gave energy and crystals so hasn't been a problem so far.  Also before ranking up I feed 1 stars and brews to the food for free points. By the end of the day I usually have about 2000 points.

I always have food saved up to rank them up so it does take preparing to do this. Not saying this is easily doable for early game players, but active users should have little problems getting this event done.   

It takes roughly about five rank 6 champs which needs to be leveled from scratch in the span of 2 weeks.  Even if you have pre made food like I did, an instant 6 star is only 400 points. This fusion was meant to be completed using the Champion chase event. And with all fairness to Plarium, they launched a double Ancient drop rate event to coincide with it. 

I have a 2 month old account and I have enough to create all the epics except Suwai, unfortunately I'm going to end the champion chase short of 400 points. LIterally short of 400 mystery shards. I have 4 Ancient shards left but the chances of drawing 2 epics or 1 legendary is near impossible. Not risking it especially since people who have reviewed Holloween Jack says he hits like a wet noodle and is an automatic vault champ. Not fusing the epics too, it's Tayrel or nothing. LOL

It's fine, I got other good champions and a legendary from the double rate. Nice of Plarium to double the rates. :)

As for new vs old players, at 16% epic drop rate, you can get the job completed with 60 ancient shards (easily doable if you didn't open for 2 months). The real challenge is getting the dungeon rares. Which does not have a posted drop rate but assuming it's at .5% (which is generous), that would take 200 dungeon runs which is around 2,400 energy. The only real way is to pull the said rares, or have them ready from vault. 

A 2 month F2P account can theoretically complete the task but they need to have saved all their Ancient shards from day 1. And enough gems for refills to farm at least 2 dungeons at around 4,800 total energy.

KiwiMcSheep said:

in 1 day it's possible for up to 740 energy, which is about 5 runs of 130 energy with 90 energy to spare.

5x 175 points = 875 points per day, 

 

this is putting aside ranking 3 stars up to 4 stars.

for every 4 star you create you get 60 points for leveling and another 50 points for ranking that champ up, if you choose to use 1 brew once ranked, this adds another 27 points, bringing the total to 127 points per 1x4 star created, and again when I do these I do them in groups so 3x4 stars in this manner  is 381 points with about 190 energy(est)

Here is the frustration lead by

• Impossible numbers
• Lack of information
  

According your figures, we can make 875 points / days. To reach the threshold, we need 1940 points / day which is 2.2x more.

You can put aside ranking 3 stars up to 4 stars because that would require more energy you can make in one day.

Let's say you can make 2 weekly XP boost rewards, it is still impossible to reach the 1940 average points per day without paying for chickens/brew/energy.

The fact the numbers are so high, the event time so limited, and the related announcements so close makes it impossible to prepare efficiently the events. And that was the same mess for all events in past year !

So the best thing to do for a free player is just not doing any events for a year, and then perhaps there will be an event where he will be prepared enough to take a shot ... Such a nice perspective for a player :)

And here comes the greediness because it's all about the money

Btw let's come back to the points you can make from leveling. As we would need 2.2 more points per days by leveling the normal way, this means we would also need 2.2x more energy.

Which is  5.7 energy recharges per days for 10 days

Each recharge is @40 gems (LOL)

A little maths here and we got an event at   : 40 gems x 5.7 recharges x 10 days = 2280 gems 

You can get 2280 through gem packs ( 2025 + 175 gem packs) for about 60€.

Does Plarium knows how far RSL is from a 60€ game ? Especially when you match that number to a 10 days play time ...

I finished figuring out some math for the event. And it appears we need to fully level up 108 champions from 1* to 3*  PER DAY !

For a whole 2328 energy PER DAY (when we only get 740 energy)

Now can we agree Plarium is just fooling us when they make us believe a free player can participate an event ?

Of course we can use Brews (1 brew = 18.5k xp).

1* champions = 22k xp = 1 brew + some food

2* champions = 81k xp = 4 brew + some food

3* champions = 200k xp = 10 brew + some food

Getting fully leveled up 3* champions from brew would require : 17 brews + foods

3* champions = 1 full level 2* champions + 2 random 2* champions

2* champions = 1 full level 1* champion + 1 random 1* champion

First we need to find how many champions we have to use (including the leveled up, and the food)

Let's have the variables

• y  the number of champions you need to have including the one to sacrifice
• T the threshold you want to get to
  

You get following equation

T = [ 1/2 x y  x (10 + 5 ) ] + [ (1/2 x 1/3 x y x ( 20 + 15) ] + [ 1/2 x 1/3 x 1/4 x  y x (60 + 50 ) ]

T = 7.5 y  +  5.82 y  +  4.58 y

T = 17.9 y

For 1940 pts per day which is required to reach the 19400 thresold, you get the following numbers

y = 1940 / 18 = 108 champions (1*)

Starting from 2* champions, you would have T = 10.4 y = 187 champions (2*)

Then we need to find out how many energy it requires to leveled up all that champions.

Remember you need at 12-6 brutal

• 48 energy per 1* champs fully leveled
  
• 152 energy per 2* champs fully leveled
  
• 368 energy per 3* champs fully leveled

You can level up 3 champions at same time

So you get following figures with E being energy to spend

Equation would be the following with

• n the number of champions to level up
  
• E the amount of energy to use

E = (1/2 x n x 48 + 1/6 x n x 152 + 1/24 x n x 368) / 3

So for 108 to level up we would need each day :

E = (1/2 x 108 x 48 + 1/6 x 108 x 152 + 1/24 x 108 x 368) / 3

E = (2592 + 2736 + 1656) / 3

E = 6984 / 3

E = 2328 energy