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Armiger Block revive for ice golem

Armiger Block revive for ice golem

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12 сент. 2020, 15:3612.09.20
14.01.20
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Armiger Block revive for ice golem

Armiger's Block revive is getting resisted 99% of the time against the ice golem minions.  It works against the waves with no problem as I noticed.  I have removed warmaster from Armiger and still having the same problem.  My Armiger only has 128 accuracy right now, but is there a requirement for high accuracy against the ice golem minions?


Why is it getting resisted?
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12 сент. 2020, 16:0012.09.20
19.12.19
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Yes, your acc is too low
12 сент. 2020, 22:4712.09.20
22.06.19
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Block revive does not need accuracy. Post a video of that so we can investigate. Most probably, your Armiger used his first skill.

Armiger's AI, as far as I know, will always use hist first skill when his target has more than 50% turnmeter.


13 сент. 2020, 01:2713.09.20
14.01.20
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JoinME said:

Block revive does not need accuracy. Post a video of that so we can investigate. Most probably, your Armiger used his first skill.

Armiger's AI, as far as I know, will always use hist first skill when his target has more than 50% turnmeter.


I was trying in manual, so definitely A2 used.  
13 сент. 2020, 01:3213.09.20
22.06.19
800
Better record a video and post it here
13 сент. 2020, 06:5213.09.20
13 сент. 2020, 06:57(отредактировано)
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Maybe it needs acc. Deplete turn meter is also not mentioned about acc but I have 2 coldhearts, the one with higher acc make it, the one with low acc can't. 


P/S: my rotos block Ice guards revive well, I base on them to do Ice Golem 20, but their acc are low, they can't cast any debuff. However I think you should try increase Amiger acc. 
13 сент. 2020, 10:0013.09.20
16.05.19
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Nope, pretty sure Block Revive doesn't require accuracy. JoinME's right- a video documentation would be great. 
14 сент. 2020, 01:3514.09.20
14.01.20
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Noob question: how do you post pictures and videos here?
15 сент. 2020, 12:5915.09.20
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Raised my accuracy to 196 and the block revive is working 80-90% of the time now on ice golem 20 even with the warmaster mastery.  There you go.  It requires accuracy, maybe doesn't for lower stages but absolutely needed for higher stages.  At least it is the case for Armiger.
15 сент. 2020, 13:1215.09.20
22.06.19
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Hehe nice to know that it is working for you. But it should work 100% I still suggest that you post a video of it not working. Upload it in youtube and post the link here. I also build an Armiger, but it has 200+ accuracy I am always low in silver and too lazy to test it. Lol
15 сент. 2020, 13:5715.09.20
19.12.19
6504

I am curious as well. I think I posted too hastily as I don't think block revive needs ACC (certainly Rotos or other arena nukers don't require it -- I don't think my high RES have ever prevented block revive in arena).


I am guessing you actual used the A1 and are seeing the resist there.
15 сент. 2020, 19:2015.09.20
14.01.20
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Way too much work to record video, edit video, upload to youtube, then post a link here.  Too lazy for that.


Armiger's A1 never got resisted.  Besides, I used manual when a minion is close to death and gently lay it down to rest.  With the higher accuracy, it practically worked almost all the time.  I am building my second Armiger so I can leave it in auto with double the chance to block revive on the minion.


This is either an ignored bug, or secretly changed without telling the players.
16 сент. 2020, 10:3316.09.20
16 сент. 2020, 10:33(отредактировано)
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nope, it's first design, [was], later design would change the skill so the game has 2 versions of a skill.


Another question: Why [moderator] did not know that ? He is just an old player, not Plarium staff. 


Another stupid question: Why someone tell you something more correct than other ? 
16 сент. 2020, 12:5016.09.20
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Indent14 said:

nope, it's first design, [was], later design would change the skill so the game has 2 versions of a skill.


Another question: Why [moderator] did not know that ? He is just an old player, not Plarium staff. 


Another stupid question: Why someone tell you something more correct than other ? 
Can you be more clear on the 2 versions you refer to?  
16 сент. 2020, 15:3616.09.20
16 сент. 2020, 15:43(отредактировано)
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Normally a buff/debuff should have ONLY ONE version, i.e all champs using [same name] debuff should be the same. 1st version of all debuffs based on acc, including Amiger [block revive], it's basic when the game is designed. 


Designer then made legendary champs with [block revive], they think [block revive] no need acc. This is 2nd version of a skill, not only [block revive] but a few other skills like ... (I would not expect Plarium nerf them).


Today we see the 3rd version of [block revive], Rotos' [block revive] need special condition to make it. However what I want to say is this 3rd version is lame, stupid design, not working at all. In order to block revive one champ Rotos may need to kill all 4 twice or three times. 


All I want to say is: Plarium need to unified all [Block Revive] to the 4th version. That is: All champs' [Block Revive] only work when killing the champs with less than 50% hp, including Rotos, Zavia, Foli, Queen Eva and other 10 champs.

16 сент. 2020, 16:0216.09.20
19.12.19
6504

OK. So you are saying:


1. Armiger does require ACC

2. Legendaries do not (Rotos different now after nerf)


Curious about Occult Brawler


16 сент. 2020, 16:4516.09.20
17 сент. 2020, 02:31(отредактировано)
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Until I see a video evidence, there's no indication that there are multiple version of Block Revive.

AFAIK, as long as the [block revive] hit the killing blow, it procs.

Now if there are differences on Armiger, there should be enough video evidence to be put here.

17 сент. 2020, 00:1217.09.20
17 сент. 2020, 00:13(отредактировано)
22.06.19
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I was trying to re gear my Armiger and now it has around 110 acc and I think this is low enough. I am about to test this when I saw this post that there are several versions of block revive, now I think that there is no point of doing this now.

Whatever the result of my test. One will just say that this is another version of block revive.

My intention of looking for a video that block revive requires acc is not to prove that this mechanic in the game Requires acc. If it does, it is to report it as a bug.

Anyways, you might still want to gear Armiger with acc his first skill needs it. He could be a legendary champion because of his skill set and he is probably much useful compare to other legendaries. The only thing that makes him Uncommon is his stats. 
17 сент. 2020, 13:2117.09.20
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JoinME said:

I was trying to re gear my Armiger and now it has around 110 acc and I think this is low enough. I am about to test this when I saw this post that there are several versions of block revive, now I think that there is no point of doing this now.

Whatever the result of my test. One will just say that this is another version of block revive.

My intention of looking for a video that block revive requires acc is not to prove that this mechanic in the game Requires acc. If it does, it is to report it as a bug.

Anyways, you might still want to gear Armiger with acc his first skill needs it. He could be a legendary champion because of his skill set and he is probably much useful compare to other legendaries. The only thing that makes him Uncommon is his stats. 
Please let us know how your test goes.  And I agree with your assessment of Armiger.  Only uncommon worth ranking up.  Got me through Spider20 and FK 20.  The TM reduction on A1 is LEGENDARY lol.
4 дек. 2024, 16:5504.12.24
4 дек. 2024, 16:57(отредактировано)
02.12.22
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I was surprised to see Armiger's Block Revive still failing to work on Klyssus's 2 minions in Ice Golem Stage 20 in 2024. I saw it work once only in the waves. He is fully booked to a 1 turn cooldown. Armiger's stats are 298 Acc; 108% Cr; 169 Spd. I auto up to the boss then switch to manual when the minions are close to death then use Armiger who has himself been revived by Scyl a few times by then for the coup de grace. The minions keep reviving! Today is the first time I used Armiger [as a substitute for Rathalos] as due to plarium's frustrating form it is hugely difficult to get consistent wins at some stages (e.g. Iron Twins Magic 11 where I sometimes have to waste energy and drop 2 stages to get a win). Have I missed something? The comments above don't seem to resolve this issue.

4 дек. 2024, 17:1304.12.24
4 дек. 2024, 17:15(отредактировано)
26.05.22
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So I have seen this brought up in the past. I cannot remember if it is a mastery or blessing but the way that it works is that it applies the damage is that it is applied after the initial attack. So if the initial attack doesn't kill the person but the additional damage does the block revive isn't activated. 

I would look across the board and see if you have something like that happening.