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10x summoning The Tin Woodman

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21 авг. 2026, 01:2521.08.26
12.01.26
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10x summoning The Tin Woodman

I've been playing for many years and I've never gotten a single champion when it was summoned 10x or 25x, why?

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21 авг. 2026, 04:2421.08.26
16.12.21
2668

Because there are roughly 275 pullable non-void lego champs

Imagine it's like pulling a name out of hat: there are 275 names in the hat, and only one of them says "tin woodsman" on it.

When it's a 10x multiplier, it only means they add 9 more slips of paper to the hat with his name on it.

So with that, if you pull a lego, your chances are now 10 out of 284 instead of 1 out of 275


In other words, with a 10x multiplier on a lego, statistically you'd still need to pull near 30 legos on average before getting the boosted champ.

21 авг. 2026, 11:1921.08.26
12.01.26
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It takes me months and months to collect 30 holy shards. And then I pull out a champion I already have and it's worthless, you'll tell me it's just luck now. I think the raid itself might have a little effect on our luck.
They're too stingy. 

21 авг. 2026, 11:5121.08.26
16.12.21
2668

The thing is, unless you're a kraken dumping enough money into the game to buy a house, focus on managing your resources, going for the fusion champs, and just accept that the champs you pull from shards will be random; that some will suck, but some will be good.

21 авг. 2026, 13:1321.08.26
12.01.26
9

It just means we have to spend a lot of my money to get that legendary thing you're offering. That's the only thing that matters to the creators of the game.

21 авг. 2026, 17:0821.08.26
31.01.20
2739

There are people who spend and people who don't.  Spending is choice.

Managing resources to do Fusions, Path Events & DoF Events is a viable way to collect all the Champs you will ever need to advance to end-game. 

21 авг. 2026, 18:4021.08.26
21 авг. 2026, 18:43(отредактировано)
06.11.21
97

I'm too lazy to count, but as far as I remember, 10x means that if you draw a legendary, there's a ≈  1/20 chance you'll get a progressive champion.

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Hellhades opened 316 sacred shards during the 25x progressive chance on someone else's account a couple of years ago. He made a video about it. Anyway, out of 316 sacred shards, he hit the progressive champion twice.

Since then, the number of champions has increased—Plarium has introduced many new ones. So the chance has become even smaller.

21 авг. 2026, 22:1021.08.26
21 авг. 2026, 22:15(отредактировано)
16.12.21
2668

Yep. It's closer to 1/30 now, but otherwise you're dead on.

If you figure it takes on average 20 sacreds to get a lego, then at 1/28 odds then the statistical average to get the progressive champ would take 560 sacred shards


I won't claim I'm F2P, but I'm *almost* f2p. I've been here for coming up on 5 years, and my total spending is a little under $300, roughly $5 bucks a month. I've bought a few forge passes, and several of the monthly gem packs, that's it. Never bought a shard pack.

I'm endgame. I can clear all the content (except for some hard FW im still working to 3-star) I do *almost* all of the fusions, and the ones I skip are because I don't think the champ is worth going for, not because I don't have the resources.


The point I'm trying to make is that you don't *need* to spend; Just manage resources and take the long view.

22 авг. 2026, 17:478 дней
12.01.26
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You banned me for a day for no reason. I didn't offend anyone, I just said what I thought.                                Now, to get back to the point of everything I wrote: buying fragments and gathering resources for fusions or summoning events is not a problem (for people who have money). I manage 80% of it as a F2P player. The real problem is the progressive 10x and 25x chance. I wouldn't be writing this if I had ever gotten even one hero that you offer.

22 авг. 2026, 18:218 дней
31.01.20
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Boro Kasun

You banned me for a day for no reason. I didn't offend anyone, I just said what I thought.                                Now, to get back to the point of everything I wrote: buying fragments and gathering resources for fusions or summoning events is not a problem (for people who have money). I manage 80% of it as a F2P player. The real problem is the progressive 10x and 25x chance. I wouldn't be writing this if I had ever gotten even one hero that you offer.

It is very unlikely that you were intentionally banned. The Spam Bot that monitors the forum is a bit too agressive sometimes.  I have been banned more times than I can remember.

Assuming you are able to get top chest on both NM & UNM Demon Lord every day and are in a clan that gets double chests, you should not have a problem accumulating the resources needed to complete every fusion w/o spending a dime.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
22 авг. 2026, 23:468 дней
24.06.19
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Boro Kasun

You banned me for a day for no reason. I didn't offend anyone, I just said what I thought.                                Now, to get back to the point of everything I wrote: buying fragments and gathering resources for fusions or summoning events is not a problem (for people who have money). I manage 80% of it as a F2P player. The real problem is the progressive 10x and 25x chance. I wouldn't be writing this if I had ever gotten even one hero that you offer.

Was definitely the bot being overzealous.  Nothing you said came even close to breaking any TOS. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
22 авг. 2026, 23:478 дней
24.06.19
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MooredRat

Yep. It's closer to 1/30 now, but otherwise you're dead on.

If you figure it takes on average 20 sacreds to get a lego, then at 1/28 odds then the statistical average to get the progressive champ would take 560 sacred shards


I won't claim I'm F2P, but I'm *almost* f2p. I've been here for coming up on 5 years, and my total spending is a little under $300, roughly $5 bucks a month. I've bought a few forge passes, and several of the monthly gem packs, that's it. Never bought a shard pack.

I'm endgame. I can clear all the content (except for some hard FW im still working to 3-star) I do *almost* all of the fusions, and the ones I skip are because I don't think the champ is worth going for, not because I don't have the resources.


The point I'm trying to make is that you don't *need* to spend; Just manage resources and take the long view.

Samsies.  I just take what I can get while pulling during fusions.  Except Fyna. She continues to tempt and trick me. 

22 авг. 2026, 23:558 дней
03.05.20
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Boro Kasun

You banned me for a day for no reason. I didn't offend anyone, I just said what I thought.                                Now, to get back to the point of everything I wrote: buying fragments and gathering resources for fusions or summoning events is not a problem (for people who have money). I manage 80% of it as a F2P player. The real problem is the progressive 10x and 25x chance. I wouldn't be writing this if I had ever gotten even one hero that you offer.

I dont chase 10x or 25x because the chances are really bad.  I prefer to use shards for a real 2x or a fusion.  

There are a lot of champs that I dont have and some that I will never have.  That is all part of the game.  


23 авг. 2026, 01:017 дней
12.01.26
9

Yes, I know it's all part of the game. I love this game too, but this game doesn't love me ;)                                                           

Joking aside, I would suggest that they allow us a slightly higher percentage for getting newer champions, because looking at it this way, the chances of getting newer champions are getting smaller.

23 авг. 2026, 03:397 дней
16.12.21
2668

But it'll never happen as long as there are krakens who won't hesitate to put in $5000 to get that shiny new champ