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Scale up CB UNM - stuck @ divine chest

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12 окт. 2025, 10:4612.10.25
27.01.25
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Scale up CB UNM - stuck @ divine chest

hello folks, after a while and few months of farming and thanx to precious suggestions received here i managed to:


- complete dragon lvl 25

- complete ice golem lvl 25

- complete minotaur

- reach CB UNM


and I am now stuck at divine chest with: toragi, stokk (leader), rearguard, geomancer, aniri.


according to my updated roster, is there any better combination you would suggest?


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12 окт. 2025, 14:5312.10.25
12.10.21
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I'm no expert here and there are people here that are way more informed than I am. Heck, I asked Skillz here for help with a team just last month.

But looking at what you have here, I'm curious to know what level CB and how many keys you are using in a day? The one legend you don't have that I can see is Visix which tells me that your account is under 9 months old. It looks like you have a pretty average roster for an account that old. You rolled out 3 legends and earned your other 5.

You have 3 epics and 2 rares I see that you might want to bump up ranks on; Nia is a great healer, Doomscreech can improve your speed, and since you have Criodan at 60, adding Neldor is an awesome 1-2 punch for Fire Knight. The 2 rares are Reliquary Tender and Renegade.

As far as CB goes however, I don't see any stand out actors but Doomscreech and Renegade do help with rotation to get your big hitters to hit harder. Not to mention that Doomscreech gives your DPS a free increase attack that's doesn't cost you anything and he's pretty easy to book. Perhaps someone else might be able to add-on something that I don't know?

Good luck bud.

13 окт. 2025, 07:1513.10.25
27.01.25
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hybrithe

I'm no expert here and there are people here that are way more informed than I am. Heck, I asked Skillz here for help with a team just last month.

But looking at what you have here, I'm curious to know what level CB and how many keys you are using in a day? The one legend you don't have that I can see is Visix which tells me that your account is under 9 months old. It looks like you have a pretty average roster for an account that old. You rolled out 3 legends and earned your other 5.

You have 3 epics and 2 rares I see that you might want to bump up ranks on; Nia is a great healer, Doomscreech can improve your speed, and since you have Criodan at 60, adding Neldor is an awesome 1-2 punch for Fire Knight. The 2 rares are Reliquary Tender and Renegade.

As far as CB goes however, I don't see any stand out actors but Doomscreech and Renegade do help with rotation to get your big hitters to hit harder. Not to mention that Doomscreech gives your DPS a free increase attack that's doesn't cost you anything and he's pretty easy to book. Perhaps someone else might be able to add-on something that I don't know?

Good luck bud.

yes i have just collected 252 day reward :D


as per post title: I am stuck at divine chest at CB Ultra Nightmare, dealing lttle less than 40M with two keys :(


I can't complain for the rest as farming lvl 20 of various DGs it's helping me farming equip.

(also considering i managed to complete DT normal and I am stuck at nether spider DT hard)

but scaling a bit CB I believe would help me out and I cannot find any clues about better toons...

ChatGPT made me lvl up Juliana in replacement of stokk, but thing got far worse...


13 окт. 2025, 14:4813.10.25
25.06.20
7032

Toragi is bad on that team. You already have enough poisons from Stokk, and my guess is Toragi is going to cause the debuff bar to get filled up and block other debuffs.

Aniri is bad on that team. You don't really have any buffs worth extending, and the heal isn't enough to keep your team alive.

Rearguard is just okay. If Artor is booked, he'd be a better choice.

Grizzled Jarl is quite good for the DEF up and block debuffs.

Ghursh can work as your Leech debuff. Just make sure everyone has warmaster or giantslayer.

The real question is - do you have your team speed tuned? If not, do you know how to do that?


14 окт. 2025, 07:4514.10.25
27.01.25
45
kramaswamy.kr

Toragi is bad on that team. You already have enough poisons from Stokk, and my guess is Toragi is going to cause the debuff bar to get filled up and block other debuffs.

Aniri is bad on that team. You don't really have any buffs worth extending, and the heal isn't enough to keep your team alive.

Rearguard is just okay. If Artor is booked, he'd be a better choice.

Grizzled Jarl is quite good for the DEF up and block debuffs.

Ghursh can work as your Leech debuff. Just make sure everyone has warmaster or giantslayer.

The real question is - do you have your team speed tuned? If not, do you know how to do that?


hello sir! I was missing you! :)


so first suggestion is to: speed tune team (i don't know how to do actually... i know  there are some parameter 4:3, 2:1 but don't know much about)

second: replace toragi and aniri.

(with grizzled and ghursh... iudex is booked, but shall be swapped with..?)


TYVM! :D


14 окт. 2025, 13:4814.10.25
27.01.25
45

could:


- seeker

- hellmut

- aniri

- iudex

- geomancer


be the speed-tune team?



14 окт. 2025, 17:3414.10.25
31.01.20
1943

If you are willing to build them all, with the toons you have, I'd try Stokk, Jarl, Geomancer, Nia & Rearguard.  Hopefully you'll have enough sustainability to last longer than your current team.      

Make sure to be selecting Warmaster/Giantslayer for T6 and LifeDrinker for T3.

In this setup, Artor would not be better than Rearguard due to wanting the Dec Def from Rearguard's A1.

Speed-tuning refers to having your toons act in the best order possible, such as getting debuffs up before a damage dealer hits, and in having them place their buffs and debuffs at the best times in relation to the Demon Lord's skills...such as Jarl placing Block Debuffs before the Demon Lord does his stun attack, and then (for example) having Aniri extend before it falls off of anyone.

Deadwood Jedi is the best resource for speed-tuning and his site provides a free speed tune calculator.

https://deadwoodjedi.com/  


15 окт. 2025, 06:5815.10.25
27.01.25
45
WileyMan

If you are willing to build them all, with the toons you have, I'd try Stokk, Jarl, Geomancer, Nia & Rearguard.  Hopefully you'll have enough sustainability to last longer than your current team.      

Make sure to be selecting Warmaster/Giantslayer for T6 and LifeDrinker for T3.

In this setup, Artor would not be better than Rearguard due to wanting the Dec Def from Rearguard's A1.

Speed-tuning refers to having your toons act in the best order possible, such as getting debuffs up before a damage dealer hits, and in having them place their buffs and debuffs at the best times in relation to the Demon Lord's skills...such as Jarl placing Block Debuffs before the Demon Lord does his stun attack, and then (for example) having Aniri extend before it falls off of anyone.

Deadwood Jedi is the best resource for speed-tuning and his site provides a free speed tune calculator.

https://deadwoodjedi.com/  


stokk, geo and rearguard are 60. jarl 50, nia (i think 40)

do you think this team would be a bit better with no speed tune?


the one i listed earlier was suggestesd byt chatGPT as a possibile speed tune team..


15 окт. 2025, 16:5915.10.25
16 окт. 2025, 16:32(отредактировано)
31.01.20
1943

I don't use ChatGPT, so I have no idea how good it is at coming up with Clan Boss Teams.

How a team performs has as much to do with how well it is geared and whether or not it is speed-tuned.

If you actually care about doing better in Demon Lord, then you need to care about speed-tuning.....at least until you can build all your toons with 250 speed....    

16 окт. 2025, 11:4916.10.25
16 окт. 2025, 12:58(отредактировано)
27.01.25
45

ty.

so i should  60 Nia & Jarl and then speed tune the team

which should be the rotation order and the speed of each can be derived from deadwoodjedi?

(or do you have some hints already? :) )


7 нояб. 2025, 17:1407.11.25
27.01.25
45

ok i tryed this tune speed team but nothing changed.. something went even worse :(


any hint?


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9 нояб. 2025, 02:197 дней
26.08.25
4

what app is that?

ShortOnSkillzModerator
9 нояб. 2025, 19:546 дней
24.06.19
3788
Alch

what app is that?

The Deadwoodjedi calculator. 

11 нояб. 2025, 15:225 дней
16.12.21
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matteo maria ambrogi

ok i tryed this tune speed team but nothing changed.. something went even worse :(


any hint?


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Post your champs gear and masteries?

Most common thing to throw off a speed tune is something that will affect skill cooldown or speed

14 нояб. 2025, 13:272 дня
27.01.25
45

these are the gear & masteries @MooredRat 

consider I am using Toragi as leader AND  even in Nightmare, performances are lower with Speed tune.

btw I was also looking for alternatives shich could be better than acutal ones 


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14 нояб. 2025, 15:312 дня
08.07.19
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matteo maria ambrogi

these are the gear & masteries @MooredRat 

consider I am using Toragi as leader AND  even in Nightmare, performances are lower with Speed tune.

btw I was also looking for alternatives shich could be better than acutal ones 


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you have two major problems. the first is that your speed tune is bad and the second is that your team is also bad.

starting with the tune, you have your champions set to act in a consistant order, but it's not set up to actually have their skills used effectively. take rearguard seargent for example. you want an ally protection champion to drop their skill right before the clan boss uses his first aoe skill so the ally protection buff is active during both aoe attacks. instead, you have it dropping right afterward missing the first attack entirely and wearing off before the third. having an ally protect that only applies 1/3 of the time is pretty useless. even worse, you have toragi using his own ally protection ability immediately after rearguard uses hers. ally protection doesn't stack, so using one right after the other is just a waste of an ability. if you staggered them in the turn order, you could potentially keep it running 100% of the time but as is it's just doing nothing.

scyll is probably the biggest issue on your team. her passive gives out a random increase speed buff, which will break any and all speed tunes. even if that weren't an issue, her skills are all terrible for clan boss. drop her and replace her with someone who can place leech debuffs.

you should also replace either toragi or rearguard seargent since there's too much overlap in their kits. toragi runs the risk of filling up the debuff bar and doesn't provide defense down, but he does have better survivability. it's hard to say which will be better for you without seeing the team in action, so you may have to test it out with each one. if you do drop rearguard, a) replace her with someone else who provides defense down and b) turn off toragi's a2. it doesn't do anything useful for your team.

one other thing you'll need to avoid are any masteries that affect cooldowns or increase a champion's turn meter, both of which can throw off speed tunes. the only one i'm seeing now is arcane celerity on your scyll which shouldn't be an issue since a) the demon lord is immune to all her debuffs and b) you need to replace her anyway, but that's something to watch out for.