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6 апр. 2025, 17:5306.04.25
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Fusion - Lysanthir Beastbane


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Seems extremely "meh".


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6 апр. 2025, 18:1806.04.25
31.01.20
1945

Depends on his damage multipliers.  For Example, if his A3 does damage based on Enemy Max HP, he becomes a must get for Hydra.

6 апр. 2025, 18:5006.04.25
16.12.21
2117

Hard pass for me unless he hits like Trunda

6 апр. 2025, 22:3306.04.25
03.05.20
2103

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These are my champs that HH rates 5* for Hydra.  Does the new fusion champ offer anything better than I already have?


ShortOnSkillzModerator
6 апр. 2025, 23:2406.04.25
24.06.19
3790
ClosedPoly

    Artak   Drexthar Bloodtwin   Drexthar Bloodtwin II   Duchess Lilitu   Duchess Lilitu II   Gnut   Graazur Irongut   Grand Oak Padraig   Helicath   Lady Kimi   Lydia the Deathsiren   Michinaki   Mithrala   Pythion   Rathalos Blademaster   Razelvarg   Razelvarg II   Sulfuryion   Sun Wukong   Underpriest Brogni   Vault Keeper Wixwell   Vault Keeper Wixwell II   Wight Queen Ankora   Geomancer   Geomancer II   Inquisitor Shamael   Inquisitor Shamael II   Mordecai   Ostrox Boneglaive   Royal Guard   Uugo   Whisper   Elva Autumnborn  

These are my champs that HH rates 5* for Hydra.  Does the new fusion champ offer anything better than I already have?


Might be worth a pickup for you as it looks like youre pretty light on Decrease Speed options.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
6 апр. 2025, 23:2506.04.25
24.06.19
3790
WileyMan

Depends on his damage multipliers.  For Example, if his A3 does damage based on Enemy Max HP, he becomes a must get for Hydra.

Everything I've seen so far is they're pretty meh.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
6 апр. 2025, 23:2506.04.25
24.06.19
3790
MooredRat

Hard pass for me unless he hits like Trunda

Doesnt by any accounts.  Might still grab for something to do.  Also the ignore life barrier is interesting with Hard Mode FW soon.

7 апр. 2025, 00:2207.04.25
01.07.22
820
ShortOnSkillz

Doesnt by any accounts.  Might still grab for something to do.  Also the ignore life barrier is interesting with Hard Mode FW soon.

ooo is Life Barrier going to be something one of the FW bosses does?

dthorne04Moderator
7 апр. 2025, 00:5007.04.25
30.12.20
7756
Onikage55

ooo is Life Barrier going to be something one of the FW bosses does?

he's speculating (unless I've missed something crazy while on vacation) but it's a reasonable take that champs with unique interactions go up in value before new content drops. 

7 апр. 2025, 01:2107.04.25
25.06.20
7032
ClosedPoly

    Artak   Drexthar Bloodtwin   Drexthar Bloodtwin II   Duchess Lilitu   Duchess Lilitu II   Gnut   Graazur Irongut   Grand Oak Padraig   Helicath   Lady Kimi   Lydia the Deathsiren   Michinaki   Mithrala   Pythion   Rathalos Blademaster   Razelvarg   Razelvarg II   Sulfuryion   Sun Wukong   Underpriest Brogni   Vault Keeper Wixwell   Vault Keeper Wixwell II   Wight Queen Ankora   Geomancer   Geomancer II   Inquisitor Shamael   Inquisitor Shamael II   Mordecai   Ostrox Boneglaive   Royal Guard   Uugo   Whisper   Elva Autumnborn  

These are my champs that HH rates 5* for Hydra.  Does the new fusion champ offer anything better than I already have?


Quite a few of those are really not great for Hydra. You really shouldn't just use the ratings to judge whether or not the champ brings value. Look at what your teams are lacking, and see if this champ fills in any gaps.

That said, as shorty mentioned, you do seem to be light on spddown, which is quite valuable for Hydra. Still - there are definitely better options.

7 апр. 2025, 04:5807.04.25
31.01.20
1945
ClosedPoly

    Artak   Drexthar Bloodtwin   Drexthar Bloodtwin II   Duchess Lilitu   Duchess Lilitu II   Gnut   Graazur Irongut   Grand Oak Padraig   Helicath   Lady Kimi   Lydia the Deathsiren   Michinaki   Mithrala   Pythion   Rathalos Blademaster   Razelvarg   Razelvarg II   Sulfuryion   Sun Wukong   Underpriest Brogni   Vault Keeper Wixwell   Vault Keeper Wixwell II   Wight Queen Ankora   Geomancer   Geomancer II   Inquisitor Shamael   Inquisitor Shamael II   Mordecai   Ostrox Boneglaive   Royal Guard   Uugo   Whisper   Elva Autumnborn  

These are my champs that HH rates 5* for Hydra.  Does the new fusion champ offer anything better than I already have?


The HH website Hydra rankings are way off base on a lot of toons, and with the basic 1-5 stars, there is no way to distinguish between a truly game-changing Hydra toon like Marius, Thor or Trunda and (IMO) mediocre Hydra toons like Brogni, Teodor & Mordecai, who also get a 5* rating, but actually have very limited usability in end-game Hydra comps.

7 апр. 2025, 05:0307.04.25
7 апр. 2025, 05:03(отредактировано)
31.01.20
1945

Since we have had a couple of old-school fusions in a row, will Lysanthir be a frag collector?

Those have historically been pretty easy to complete unless they screw around with how points are earned again.  The last frag collector toon had that big Dungeon Diver gotcha in the middle of it.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
7 апр. 2025, 09:5507.04.25
24.06.19
3790
WileyMan

Since we have had a couple of old-school fusions in a row, will Lysanthir be a frag collector?

Those have historically been pretty easy to complete unless they screw around with how points are earned again.  The last frag collector toon had that big Dungeon Diver gotcha in the middle of it.

Mixed fusion.  Frags for epics > fuse them for lego.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
7 апр. 2025, 09:5607.04.25
24.06.19
3790
Onikage55

ooo is Life Barrier going to be something one of the FW bosses does?

As Davey mentioned just speculation.  But it's pretty on brand for them to give access to a champ with a unique piece and then add in a requirement for it later.

dthorne04Moderator
7 апр. 2025, 14:1407.04.25
30.12.20
7756

updated OP with schedule. 

i am out on this one after dumping the account for fabian soul, doesn't seem worth 

7 апр. 2025, 18:0607.04.25
14.01.22
1

If I understand the fusion plan correctly there is no champion chase, but 2(!) summon rush events this time. What a joke -- this alone makes it an easy skip for F2P players like me -- and a big step further to deleting the account.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
7 апр. 2025, 20:2507.04.25
24.06.19
3790
Raidareus

If I understand the fusion plan correctly there is no champion chase, but 2(!) summon rush events this time. What a joke -- this alone makes it an easy skip for F2P players like me -- and a big step further to deleting the account.

Yes 2 summon rushes.  You can technically skip the 1st if you complete the path but for this champ, certainly doesn't feel like it's worth.

7 апр. 2025, 20:4107.04.25
16.11.20
1226

easy skip to build up resources this month for me.

7 апр. 2025, 21:3507.04.25
31.01.20
1945
ShortOnSkillz

Everything I've seen so far is they're pretty meh.

Yeah.  That is what I picked up from the two showcase vids I scanned.  It doesn't look like he would improve any of my Hydra comps, so it's an easy skip.    

Looking forward to a break from the grind.

7 апр. 2025, 22:3107.04.25
03.05.20
2103
kramaswamy.kr

Quite a few of those are really not great for Hydra. You really shouldn't just use the ratings to judge whether or not the champ brings value. Look at what your teams are lacking, and see if this champ fills in any gaps.

That said, as shorty mentioned, you do seem to be light on spddown, which is quite valuable for Hydra. Still - there are definitely better options.

I have enough not godlike champs.  I can skip this one.  

8 апр. 2025, 03:5108.04.25
01.07.22
820
ShortOnSkillz

As Davey mentioned just speculation.  But it's pretty on brand for them to give access to a champ with a unique piece and then add in a requirement for it later.

Can we at least start referring to this as the Smoochy Fusion? Go go Maroon Rhino!


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