i wud of thought uve been doing this long enough to realise what Plarium says or tells us in patch notes etc is not what actually occurs in reality

If you're in a clan who is willing to kick 10 members who aren't as PVP focused, you're either in a top tier or tryhard clan or the family clan you were in isn't as good as advertised.

The clan I'm in is a mix of family with some tryhard. The clan is happy a couple of our members who've been struggling with our Siege tier can now get rewards for just placing a defense. There was also an understanding in our clan that the bottom 6 or so that weren't very PVP focused or had much weaker accounts would only set the 1 defense and no reserve. We were actively seeking out opponents that they could beat on Siege offense as well and rooting for them.  https://routerlogin.uno/ 

reddit bot reply very close to on point

"If I am reading the Scroll change correctly, then very soon, in a Siege of two clans with a L1 Stronghold, each team has 65 attack scrolls to fight 60 Defense Teams.  That is a fundamental change to the balance of Offense-Defense in Siege, and not just a small QoL change.  "

I *THINK* when Olenka posted "total number of ATK Scrolls (which is equal to the total number of enemy Team Slots " she meant that it includes the reserve teams slots.

So that would be 90 attack scrolls, (now 95) assuming a level 1 stronghold.

But it *is* worrisome that there hasn't been a clarification in the 2 days since it was posted.

@harleQuinn Could you check on this, please?

It will be 60 attack scrolls now. Not 90.

Then you get a bonus 5 scrolls distributed in order of Clan Role. So Clan Leader, then Deputies in order of player power, then LTs in order of player power, then just power after that if you don't have enough officers.

I need to educate myself on seige. I am probably a bad guild member in this aspect of the game. 

Thanks for the confirmation.  I wish I had been wrong.  

This is a fundamental change to how Siege will play out.  

The new stealth Hydra buff has all the CCs occupied, but someone is gonna freak over this when they figure it out.  

I think most people here are also missing an important aspect of this, sort of a manipulation/strategy of the system that is now possible.

You can remove your Clan Members who don't participate OR who don't have great champions, thereby funneling MORE attack scrolls to the Leader and Officers. If you set the Leader and Officers to the ones with the strongest Champion Selection, now your best members get the most attack scrolls to do even more damage.

Before it was at least balanced that, in example, no matter how great your roster was you could only attack 3 places. Now you can potentially hit 5-6 (if I'm understanding the scroll shift). 

This also seems to encourage clans to KICK their weaker members especially if they don't participate in Siege.

EDIT: To help clarify, from how this sounds you'd get (as a hypothetical) 60 scrolls regardless of roster size. So if you have 30 members, 10 of whom don't do siege, your 20 members who DO siege and those 10 who don't get 2 scrolls each. BUT if you kick those 10 members who don't participate, your 20 members now get 3 scrolls each.

Also was wondering if you can confirm on my previous post that I'm understanding the new scroll system.

30 Member Clan, 60 scrolls giving each member 2 and then 5 bonus scrolls distrubited among Leader and Officers so Leader and Officers likely get 3 Scrolls total.

20 Member Clan, 60 scrolls giving each member 3 and then 5 bonus scrolls distributed among Leader and Officers so Leader and Officers likely get 4 Scrolls total?

yep

Jeez... this DOES then mean you're at a bigger disadvantage now if you have members who don't participate... I think next week around this time a LOT of people are gonna get kicked from their clans

Well, then, that means that the reddit bot post from above was either dead on point or was actually not a bot, afterall, because they were discussing the kicking of ten less pvp-focused peeps.

I can't believe that no CC has picked up on these Siege changes yet.  This is as big a deal as the Hydra changes, and no one is talking about it at all.

the fexac post is a bot, copy-paste from reddit, but from a thread that was actually on topic and current.

Looks like you gentlemen have the implications of the changes all figured out to how I understand them all. 

Let me know if you guys have other questions. 💜 

Has someone told the devs to start taking thier meds again?

😂 Like any true mental case, they wouldn't listen to that advice anyway.  

I'm just one of the voices now.... one of many